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Old 10-06-11, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ricebowl View Post
Surly the next rivendell?
You mean rivendell might aspire to be the next surly....
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Old 10-06-11, 11:45 AM
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that's the spirit, the fans are doing their part.

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Old 10-06-11, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ricebowl View Post
that's the spirit, the fans are doing there part.
I was going there.
Are there any beers left?
There are your friends.

They lost their car.


good on that? Don't forget they're as in they are.
=]

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Old 10-06-11, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by FrenchFit View Post
Have some more koolaid. Surly is part of the Quality Brand Products corporate conglomerate which includes Salsa, Problems Solvers, All City, etc. This is not a company of 20 people working out of brick building in the soho district. The whole Surly thing may be cool marketing, I appalaud the courage to be different, but it is as intentional as the fire red rims on your fixie.
LOL.... I bought my LHT because it was the only decent 26" touring frame I could find. I have no illusions as to what and who they are. I just needed a solid workhorse bike frame, and they had what I liked. And I hate the fixie trend.

Originally Posted by modernjess View Post
Surly and their other small bike brands have absolutely benefited from the proximity to the industry, the product knowledge, and the distribution which comes from Q. But to dismiss it as a calculated corporate marketing shill is an uninformed opinion and frankly insulting to the dedicated bike nerds that invented, market, and ride the Surly brand every day. But trust me, they don't care what you think.
I think the guys at Surly understand how things work, and they know what they can and can't get away with. They could have just marketed their bikes as generic models in a company's lineup, but they didn't. All things said, I'd have bought one regardless of who marketed it. Their bike design happened to cross paths with what I needed, and I think the "surly" character is just funny. It didn't affect my decision to buy one, one way or the other. When I tell people I own one, they get this funny smile and nod, because they recognize it. Bottom line: they design bikes people like to ride.
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Old 10-06-11, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by modernjess View Post
Actually Surly IS a company of about 20 people who only work on Surly at QBP and they are responsible for everything except manufacturing. They really live the brand everyday and have fought for their independence.
I'm not sure what to think of this. On the one hand, it's reassuring to hear. On the other hand, it's kind of like being told that the employees at the Apple Store really are smarmy hipsters.

Don't get me wrong. I really like Surly. I like their bikes. I've had good experiences with their customer service (which has led me to believe that they do, in fact, care what I think). I even enjoy the clever commentary on their web site. That doesn't change the fact that the edgy attitude is part of their brand.
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Old 10-06-11, 03:27 PM
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Old 10-06-11, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by irclean View Post
I have yet to enjoy a full glass of Surly Kool-Aid, but I did get a sip (note forks):

That's just wrong , you need a Surly frame to match that fork. ( I'm just joking)
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Old 10-06-11, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by wolfchild View Post
That's just wrong , you need a Surly frame to match that fork. ( I'm just joking)
Luckily for me, the frame fades to black and ties in with the Surly fork nicely. Since the pic I've ditched the dorky-looking frame & seat bags for some matching pieces, but left the hitch on the seatpost for my son's Trail-a-Bike.

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Old 10-06-11, 06:15 PM
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https://surlylonghaultrucker.com/

pardon me, my ignorance is showing. i am not familiar with the brand of bike i'm seeing.

i googled for prices and found this weird little site with some specs and prices.

i probably need a troll (with ogre handlebars maybe), for all my bridges.

cool bikes.
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Old 10-06-11, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy_K View Post
Well, since I'm sure no one is sincere, I guess I'll have to start growing bamboo to build my own bike. But can I trust myself?

Down with capitalism! Vive la revolution!

But what I was actually saying is, don't buy things just because the company website seems cool. That said, I own a Surly.
Sorry, the mix of sarcastic mind (on break from work), anonymous posting, and just plain old jumping to conclusions and that's what happens. I agree - Down with capitalism!, but after I get all my bike stuff.

Love Surly as well.

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Old 10-06-11, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by modernjess View Post
Actually Surly IS a company of about 20 people who only work on Surly at QBP and they are responsible for everything except manufacturing. They really live the brand everyday and have fought for their independence. And yes indeed it is housed and was formed at QBP (Quality Bicycle Products BTW) which is not a corporate conglomerate but a privately held company that mainly distributes bike parts to shops in North America. The vast majority of employees at Q work on that effort.

Surly and their other small bike brands have absolutely benefited from the proximity to the industry, the product knowledge, and the distribution which comes from Q. But to dismiss it as a calculated corporate marketing shill is an uninformed opinion and frankly insulting to the dedicated bike nerds that invented, market, and ride the Surly brand every day. But trust me, they don't care what you think.
The volkswagon of the bicycle industry. 20 people who can't make a bike, but do know marketing and utilitarian design..and how to source know-how from ...overseas? Nothing wrong with it, I suppose one day I might own a Surly...it could happen...I have fugly moments. The calculated counter-culture, hipness of Surly marketing? - a finger down my throat moment. I'll take a Artcrank Trek, thanks.

Your little privately owned Q company was...$180 million in revenue last year? Just a little boutique operation I'm sure. What's your CEO's comp plan?

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Old 10-06-11, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by FrenchFit View Post
The volkswagon of the bicycle industry. 20 people who can't make a bike, but do know marketing and utilitarian design..and how to source know-how from ...overseas? Nothing wrong with it, I suppose one day I might own a Surly...it could happen...I have fugly moments. The calculated counter-culture, hipness of Surly marketing? - a finger down my throat moment. I'll take a Artcrank Trek, thanks.

Your little privately owned Q company was...$180 million in revenue last year? Just a little boutique operation I'm sure. What's your CEO's comp plan?
^^^ I detect a bit of a surly tone in your answer. Ironic metaphor? Sincere dooshbaggery?
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Old 10-06-11, 08:05 PM
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they could give their road forks a nicer curve. A bottle opener near the head tube or seat cluster would be nice.
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Old 10-06-11, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mconlonx View Post
^^^ I detect a bit of a surly tone in your answer. Ironic metaphor? Sincere dooshbaggery?
I have a head cold and feeling nasty today. Apologies, I guess I have a surly frame of mind.
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Old 10-06-11, 09:40 PM
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I don't find Surly's marketing to be very appealing. It reads like they are trying a little too hard to be bike messengers or hipsters or something. However, I do have a Surly frame, and am very pleased with it.
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