Tie down methods?
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Tie down methods?
So on my way home, I realized that I needed to stop by the feed store and grab some cat food. It was pretty close to closing time, so I didn't have time to run and grab the car forcing me to make do with what I had available.
I keep a diamond shaped bungee net on my rack, and had my lunch bag tied down with it(It's small). I was able to lay the 30 lb bag of cat food over the the rack with the lunch on top and get it secured, bu the load shifted a lot and actually slid sideways off the rack. I didn't catch it for a mile or so, but I had a big ass bag of food hanging inches from my rear deraileur, being supported by a single cheap bungee hook.
Any better solutions for stuff like this? The bungee net is good for a small bag of groceries, but because of it's size and shape isn't great for the occasional wide load(as this was).
I keep a diamond shaped bungee net on my rack, and had my lunch bag tied down with it(It's small). I was able to lay the 30 lb bag of cat food over the the rack with the lunch on top and get it secured, bu the load shifted a lot and actually slid sideways off the rack. I didn't catch it for a mile or so, but I had a big ass bag of food hanging inches from my rear deraileur, being supported by a single cheap bungee hook.
Any better solutions for stuff like this? The bungee net is good for a small bag of groceries, but because of it's size and shape isn't great for the occasional wide load(as this was).
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A long strand of 550 cord, or other tiedown cordage would work best. Heavy twine would work, too. You just anchor it at one end, and wrap around the load, weave through the rack or bike frame, wrap back across the load, etc etc. Make sure to criss cross, and pull it uniformly tight. Tie off with a good knot, you're done! You could probably stuff enough in your seat tube, and forget about it until you need it.
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I have found the Nite Ize figure 9's indispensible. Yes, you can do the same with a trucker's hitch if you can't afford the $10 for a set of the small figure 9's, but personally the Nite Ize are the way to go.
I have the large carabiners I use for tying up my Hennessy Hammock, securing larger loads to my trailer, and securing items to the top of my car on my roof rack. I also have the large and small rope tighteners. They're relatively cheap, easy, and very useful.
I have the large carabiners I use for tying up my Hennessy Hammock, securing larger loads to my trailer, and securing items to the top of my car on my roof rack. I also have the large and small rope tighteners. They're relatively cheap, easy, and very useful.
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Bungee cords of different lengths. I carry the cords strapped to my rack so I don't have to worry about stuffing them into anything. When I need them, there they are and I can lash just about anything I need to as tight as I need to. Cheap and versatile.
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I haven't found the best solution, yet. Bungies have been unreliable for me - I have had them let go when I have been riding. Worse, is if I forget I have one hanging on the rack and start to ride away....oops. So far, I rely on my trunk and my backpack.
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Bungees are good if you have the right length to wrap around underneath the rack shelf and hook itself. I use this method to carry home cat food and kitty litter. Two bungees, one long one to go long ways and one less long one to go short ways.
Otherwise I stuff my panniers.
Otherwise I stuff my panniers.
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A long strand of 550 cord, or other tiedown cordage would work best. Heavy twine would work, too. You just anchor it at one end, and wrap around the load, weave through the rack or bike frame, wrap back across the load, etc etc. Make sure to criss cross, and pull it uniformly tight. Tie off with a good knot, you're done! You could probably stuff enough in your seat tube, and forget about it until you need it.
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Bungees are good if you have the right length to wrap around underneath the rack shelf and hook itself. I use this method to carry home cat food and kitty litter. Two bungees, one long one to go long ways and one less long one to go short ways.
Otherwise I stuff my panniers.
Otherwise I stuff my panniers.
I didn't pay attention in boyscouts enough to trust myself with 550 cord and a load, though I should probably start practicing.
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I've got a Fredalicious solution, but it basically eliminates using panniers.
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I don't like bungees or anything elastic for anything more than a few pounds like clothes because sometimes it can be hard to tension. Rope can be easily tensioned with a trucker's hitch knot and then tied off regardless of the length. Another plus is that it will never snap back if it doesn't catch right.
Paracord and trucker's hitch would have been my suggestion also. The trucker's hitch is a very useful knot to know. I have not used the Nite Ize things.
I have found the Nite Ize figure 9's indispensible. Yes, you can do the same with a trucker's hitch if you can't afford the $10 for a set of the small figure 9's, but personally the Nite Ize are the way to go.
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I loker the Surly Junk Straps. They are like long Toe Straps from the old days, with the little clip & all. They hold pretty well & are long enough to wrap around most larger objects. If not 1, then 2 would certainly fit around the cat food. They are also small & will easily fit in the corner of a bag until needed.
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This is a great and versatile way to tie down larger loads. Here is the "good knot": https://www.animatedknots.com/truckers/index.php. It's perfect for tensioning the 550 cord to keep everything in place. As an alternative to steps 1-5, I like substituting the alpine butterfly.
https://zombiehunters.org/forum/viewt...ilit=knotology
This is a pretty sweet thread for learning useful knots, if you're interested.
No1mad, I have a similar setup. I just cut the top 3/4 off of a milk crate and ziptied it to the rack. Works great for schoolbooks and other heavy loads.
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I don't use bungee cords for anything that is important. I have seen too many of them along side the road.
I generally don't have tie down issues, due to owning an Xtrcycle, when I do have issues where something needs to be tied down, I usually use the camlock straps that Xtracycle sells. If I still need more I have a hank of 550 paracord that I can use.
I generally don't have tie down issues, due to owning an Xtrcycle, when I do have issues where something needs to be tied down, I usually use the camlock straps that Xtracycle sells. If I still need more I have a hank of 550 paracord that I can use.
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I don't use bungee cords for anything that is important. I have seen too many of them along side the road.
I generally don't have tie down issues, due to owning an Xtrcycle, when I do have issues where something needs to be tied down, I usually use the camlock straps that Xtracycle sells. If I still need more I have a hank of 550 paracord that I can use.
I generally don't have tie down issues, due to owning an Xtrcycle, when I do have issues where something needs to be tied down, I usually use the camlock straps that Xtracycle sells. If I still need more I have a hank of 550 paracord that I can use.
Part of me really, really wants an xtra cycle.
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I don't use bungee cords for anything that is important. I have seen too many of them along side the road.
I generally don't have tie down issues, due to owning an Xtrcycle, when I do have issues where something needs to be tied down, I usually use the camlock straps that Xtracycle sells. If I still need more I have a hank of 550 paracord that I can use.
I generally don't have tie down issues, due to owning an Xtrcycle, when I do have issues where something needs to be tied down, I usually use the camlock straps that Xtracycle sells. If I still need more I have a hank of 550 paracord that I can use.
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Granular things in bags are very hard to secure to a rack. The contents move away from ties as they are shaken by bumps. Either the straps get loose enough to fall away, or the bag oozes out from under them.
I lost a 30 pound bag of dog food right by the dog park on my way home. It ripped open and kibble poured out. Most of it was recovered, and the rest was cleaned up quickly by the locals.
I found the best way to carry a large bag like that on a rack is to fold the bag in a way that makes it's contents very tightly packed, then wrap a cargo net over it as tightly as possible. Smaller bags will fit into a pannier.
Dog food is just a pain to carry on a rack.
I lost a 30 pound bag of dog food right by the dog park on my way home. It ripped open and kibble poured out. Most of it was recovered, and the rest was cleaned up quickly by the locals.
I found the best way to carry a large bag like that on a rack is to fold the bag in a way that makes it's contents very tightly packed, then wrap a cargo net over it as tightly as possible. Smaller bags will fit into a pannier.
Dog food is just a pain to carry on a rack.
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Perhaps a rack widening platform would help..
a front portieur type rack.. they're wide.
Or like i used ..a bungee net, across the full width of my front panniers
to retrieve a Pizza, .width helps.
a front portieur type rack.. they're wide.
Or like i used ..a bungee net, across the full width of my front panniers
to retrieve a Pizza, .width helps.
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I always carry 2-4 bungees per rack (I often run front and rear racks on my bikes). Usually two bungees will secure anything, as long as you make sure to stetch them out well so they have little give left in them by winding them around the rack however much you need to depending on the load. Used to carry multiple bankers boxes of legal documents this way when I was a courier. IIRC those are 40 or 48 pounds each. I never have any trouble with my loads as long as I use at least two bungees and run them in a way that takes up almost all of the slack in them. These days I use bungees in the summer to secure all my camping gear to my rear rack when doing bike camping and the ocassional load home from the store the rest of the year.
I like bungees because they are quick and easy to get on and off. I also carry a bungee net for each rack but only use it to secure very light loads. Get bungees that aren't the black rubber ones, and make sure you get ones with plastic hooks. If they slip out of your hands while securing them the metal hooked ones can be dangerous!
I like bungees because they are quick and easy to get on and off. I also carry a bungee net for each rack but only use it to secure very light loads. Get bungees that aren't the black rubber ones, and make sure you get ones with plastic hooks. If they slip out of your hands while securing them the metal hooked ones can be dangerous!
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Granular things in bags are very hard to secure to a rack. The contents move away from ties as they are shaken by bumps. Either the straps get loose enough to fall away, or the bag oozes out from under them.
I lost a 30 pound bag of dog food right by the dog park on my way home. It ripped open and kibble poured out. Most of it was recovered, and the rest was cleaned up quickly by the locals.
I found the best way to carry a large bag like that on a rack is to fold the bag in a way that makes it's contents very tightly packed, then wrap a cargo net over it as tightly as possible. Smaller bags will fit into a pannier.
Dog food is just a pain to carry on a rack.
I lost a 30 pound bag of dog food right by the dog park on my way home. It ripped open and kibble poured out. Most of it was recovered, and the rest was cleaned up quickly by the locals.
I found the best way to carry a large bag like that on a rack is to fold the bag in a way that makes it's contents very tightly packed, then wrap a cargo net over it as tightly as possible. Smaller bags will fit into a pannier.
Dog food is just a pain to carry on a rack.
I think I just need some ratcheting staps+the cargo net. I'm not sure I could get a bag of dog food on my rack, as mine only comes in 40 lb bags and it's larger chunks. Maybe with the platform extender like someone mentioned.




