Schwalbe problems - region related?
08-16-17 | 09:09 AM
#26
Is it really a P and not the number 1 turned around?
08-16-17 | 09:20 AM
#27
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Schwalbe "P" ONE
Are you sure it's a "P" and not the numeral "1"?
The set of Schwalbe One V-Guard folders I got from Jenson USA last month are labeled exactly like all the common photos I've Googled. The numeral 1 has a multi-line or "echo" effect, which, if marred or scuffed in handling, could resemble the capital letter "P". While such scuffing may seem unlikely the tires I received were shipped without any packaging, just a rubber band and placed in a bag, along with other items I'd purchased from Jenson in the same carton.
No surprise, that's exactly how Jenson advertised the tires -- from a bulk load, no packaging material. I just assumed the tires were leftover unsold new stock from 2014 or so, possibly intended for bulk distribution outside the usual retail market (such as racing teams). I thought they might be seconds or blems but couldn't find any defects. So far, so good, nice tires for $15 each.
There are also SCHWALBE 1 PRO ONE and BIG ONE (allcaps), SCHWALBE 1 G-ONE, SCHWALBE 1 X-ONE and SCHWALBE 1 S-ONE, possibly others. So a "P-ONE" is possible, although only Schwalbe would know for certain.
The set of Schwalbe One V-Guard folders I got from Jenson USA last month are labeled exactly like all the common photos I've Googled. The numeral 1 has a multi-line or "echo" effect, which, if marred or scuffed in handling, could resemble the capital letter "P". While such scuffing may seem unlikely the tires I received were shipped without any packaging, just a rubber band and placed in a bag, along with other items I'd purchased from Jenson in the same carton.
No surprise, that's exactly how Jenson advertised the tires -- from a bulk load, no packaging material. I just assumed the tires were leftover unsold new stock from 2014 or so, possibly intended for bulk distribution outside the usual retail market (such as racing teams). I thought they might be seconds or blems but couldn't find any defects. So far, so good, nice tires for $15 each.
There are also SCHWALBE 1 PRO ONE and BIG ONE (allcaps), SCHWALBE 1 G-ONE, SCHWALBE 1 X-ONE and SCHWALBE 1 S-ONE, possibly others. So a "P-ONE" is possible, although only Schwalbe would know for certain.
I just received a reply from Schwalbe U.K. These are legit. It is a "P" on the side. They manufactured these for OEM stock for new bikes. They are not anywhere near the Schwalbe One "V" Guards. These are called Schwalbe One Performance.
They are junk and I am removing them today and replacing them with my "V" Guards.
08-17-17 | 05:38 AM
#28
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In Sweden, early failures of the SMW are quite well known. The studs wear through the casing to chafe on the inner tubes. Some, incl me, have had good luck with getting them replaced on warranty.
Suomityres/Nokian tend to last far longer.
DIY studded tires can be kinda-sorta OK for all-ice/hardpack riding, but are really difficult to get to last for urban/mixed surface riding.
I've tried it, and am not planning to do it again.
Don't think storage as such is to blame.
Unless storage conditions have been absolutely horrible.
There's a regularly returning story about some pro racer/team having several seasons worth of (tubular) tires stored in a cellar somewhere.
Suomityres/Nokian tend to last far longer.
DIY studded tires can be kinda-sorta OK for all-ice/hardpack riding, but are really difficult to get to last for urban/mixed surface riding.
I've tried it, and am not planning to do it again.
Don't think storage as such is to blame.
Unless storage conditions have been absolutely horrible.
There's a regularly returning story about some pro racer/team having several seasons worth of (tubular) tires stored in a cellar somewhere.
The problem is with tyres bought in Serbia. Both from experience with the tyres I bought, as well as with number of problems that other people had (both from hear-say, as well as people returning them to a LBS they bought them from for warranty claim). Very poor quality. Cracks on sidewalls, even the tread area in just a few months after a purchase, with no signs of under inflation.
08-17-17 | 05:44 AM
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The point was that if one model of Schwalbe tire is known to suffer from quality issues in one country, then another model of Schwalbe tire having quality issues somewhere else doesn't seem as surprising.
Maybe Schwalbe overall is having trouble maintaining quality.
Maybe Schwalbe overall is having trouble maintaining quality.
08-17-17 | 07:58 AM
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Got two replacements of Marathong Green Guard and Land Cruiser myself - both within 6 months. First one replaced, then the second one replaced also cracked. Third pair of Green Guard got stolen with the bike, while the Land Cruisers were given away (with a warning) - didn't want to bother with them any more.
Happens to others who buy here - also lots of claims in the LBS on Schwalbes. More than other brands. Biggest local bike forum has a topic: "Schwalbe - top class or a fraud" - where many other users share experiences - some good, many bad.
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