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Old 11-19-11, 10:35 AM
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Brooks B17 vs Imperial?

I picked up a Root Beer Vaya and my black B17 doesn't match, so it will likely move over to my MTB. The plan is to buy an Antique Brown Brooks and I am debating between the B17 and the Imperial. Anybody have both? Does the Imperial provide a noticeable difference to justify the premium over the B17?
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Love my Imperial. No other seat would work for me. You notice the slot for a few hundred miles, then it disappears and there's 0 pressure in that area. It's pretty amazing.
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Old 11-19-11, 12:21 PM
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I found the Imperial to be more annoying to brake in even thought the brake in is faster. I felt a pinch down there for a few hundred miles. Now that I have both saddles broken in I don't notice the deference between the two. So I don't think it is worth the extra $$.
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I've got both and I prefer the Imperial. For the riding position I have (bars just below saddle height) and the amount of seated climbing I do, I find that the cutout allows more forward lean when using the bars for leverage/pulling, without putting the additional pressure on the soft tissue down there. (Note: I also have my saddle in a fairly high "nose up" position when compared to level)
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I have both and much prefer the imperial. I don't have a lot of miles on the regular b-17, but i've ridden a lot on a flyer, which is the same seat. I find the cutout very comfortable and worth the nuisance of the laces.
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nothing like 100 Year technology... I dont understand why my granfathers bike seat is more comfortable then 21st Century saddles? What other tech are we still using that is similar (exactly) to the B-17? bamboo fishing rods... Model A ford, carburators?
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nothing like 100 Year technology... I dont understand why my granfathers bike seat is more comfortable then 21st Century saddles? What other tech are we still using that is similar (exactly) to the B-17? bamboo fishing rods... Model A ford, carburators?
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Old 11-19-11, 10:04 PM
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I have both, both are very comfortable in their application. In the past I've written that an Imperial is the most comfortable seat I've ridden - especially on trek 520 with handlegar slightly below seat, also for me the top tube is perhaps a touch long. On a more upright bike the imperial is quite nice - the b-17, nicer. In short the imperial worked better in a slightly more aggressive riding position.
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What about friction shifting? And for that matter... what about the bicycle? Invented in the late 19th century, perfected about 1895 and nowadays pretty much the same design.
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I have a B-17 on my touring bike and the imperial on my Specialized Roubaix. For the roubaix I prefer the imperial since the position is a little bit more aggressive than the touring bike. Had no problems with comfort with either saddle, they were comfortable for me from day one.
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This is how my seat and bars are setup now:



It is fairly upright.
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