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Old 12-08-11 | 10:46 AM
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Anyone Commuting on an Origin 8 CX700?

I am planning to build a new ride as winter project and have a new commuter for next year. I am considering this frame: https://www.origin-8.com/?page_id=91&...26+ACCESSORIES

Anyone have it? How is it built up?
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Old 12-08-11 | 11:37 AM
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Looks like they put the bits on to make a disc brake, or v /cantilever on ,

what do you want it to do?..

if you order it from the nearby dealer
they will be there to help you when you have specific questions.
and do a BB thread chase , check alignment , etc.
shipping may have things not arrive perfect.. web order complicates then.

You done several Bare frame buildups , before?

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Old 12-08-11 | 11:39 AM
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I'm building one up. It's # 2 on my winter project list and should be finished in 30 days.

Crank-arm & chainring clearance is tight. A road crank will not fit, unless you use a 118mm or wider cartridge BB that creates some clearance.



I'll be using a Shimano Deore trekking crankset on mine with a 9 speed road drivetrain including Tiagra STI brifters.

Do you have any questions about the frame?
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Old 12-08-11 | 11:48 AM
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they say what crank to use on the linked page 38/48 max, mountain crank.

That one ^^^ looks like you can only fit 1 chainring on the outer position
and it rather as small as the BCD allows.

insufficient clearance for my tastes..

I'd look for a square taper crank , then you can choose the BB spindle length.

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Old 12-08-11 | 11:52 AM
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they say what crank to use on the linked page 38/48 max, mountain crank.
I was going to run a 44t single chainring on this Sram crank, no-way. Even the 48, 36 & 26 Deore crank is snug.

I've chatted with another owner who got a 50 & 34 compact to fit using 118mm BB.
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Old 12-08-11 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
Looks like they put the bits on to make a disc brake, or v /cantilever on ,

what do you want it to do?..

if you order it from the nearby dealer
they will be there to help you when you have specific questions.
and do a BB thread chase , check alignment , etc.
shipping may have things not arrive perfect.. web order complicates then.

You done several Bare frame buildups , before?
I would order from a LBS or reputable online retailer to be covered if something is messed up.

It will be a dedicated commuter. And yes I have built a couple bikes from the frame up, and now finding an excuse for the next.
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Old 12-08-11 | 11:56 AM
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I was going to run a 44t single chainring on this Sram crank, no-way. Even the 48, 36 & 26 Deore crank is snug.
I would love to learn from your trail and error, so I know what I will need to order when the time comes. I didn't realize mountain cranks came with 48 tooth rings. What do you expect to try next?

What else are you going with besides STI's? Wheels, tires, fenders, brake type, etc?

I recall your Soma you posted in a different thread a few days ago...how do these two bike compare?
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Old 12-08-11 | 12:06 PM
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I'll be using a Shimano Deore 590 with 48, 36 & 22 chainrings. The 22 is a change-out, a 26t is standard: https://www.google.com/products/catal...d=0CG8Q8wIwAQ#

This is a 9 speed crankset, the newer 10-speeds have 44, 32 & 22 chainrings and I wanted a touring set-up. I'll use Tiagra 9 speed brifters for triple and a Tiagra front derailleur. On the rear, I'll use a Deore SGS derailleur. Planet Bike 29er fenders will look great on the bike.

I'll use Salsa Woodchipper handle bars and a 40 spoke Velocity Dyad wheelset. I'll use 700x37 Schwalbe Marathon Cross tires for mixed riding and get some 29X1.75" MTB tires for off-road.

It will be a gravel road bike that might see some touring duty too.

It might be overkill for urban commuting, but that's half the fun of a bike like this.
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Old 12-08-11 | 12:15 PM
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I recall your Soma you posted in a different thread a few days ago...how do these two bike compare?
The Soma is better all-around, but won't take silly-big tires for singletrack or winter trail riding. I got the Soma down to 22 lbs and the bike was a fast century bike, the CX-700 would fail as a pure road bike.

The CX-700 is cheap enough to have for fun, but a monster-cross bike will be slower and require more effort to ride as an everyday bike, I expect.
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Old 12-08-11 | 12:23 PM
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Any idea what double crankset may fit (preferably an external bottom bracket)? Since I'll just be commuting and running errands I don't need a triple, plus the flat terrain here in Florida.

Where did you happen to get your frame?
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Old 12-08-11 | 12:31 PM
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Any idea what double crankset may fit (preferably an external bottom bracket)? Since I'll just be commuting and running errands I don't need a triple, plus the flat terrain here in Florida.

Where did you happen to get your frame?
A road double with external BB cups like GXP or Hollowtech II will not fit. I tried the Sram CX crank in the picture. I tried a Shimano 105 double and a Shimano 105 triple. None fit. The 50, 39 & 30 triple almost fit but the crank-arms hit the chain-stays.

If you want a road double, I would suggest a compact crankset with a cartridge BB and a 118mm spindle length BB. This should work with a 118mm spindle using a PowerSpline BB: https://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...6&category=688

I got my frame on eBay for $200 & $35 shipping. It arrived in good condition. The importer is out-of-stock and waiting for the 2012's to arrive. The new frames will be lighter, I'm told.
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Old 12-08-11 | 02:20 PM
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I'm starting to think the Nashbar steel cyclocross frame/bike might be a better fit for my purposes. This bike makes me think I might as well throw some drops & 700c wheels on my 29er.

If I had the money I would just get the Soma or a Surly Cross Check.
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Old 12-08-11 | 02:47 PM
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I'm starting to think the Nashbar steel cyclocross frame/bike might be a better fit for my purposes. This bike makes me think I might as well throw some drops & 700c wheels on my 29er.

If I had the money I would just get the Soma or a Surly Cross Check.
I'm sure the Nashbar CX bike would be better, unless you need to run tires larger than 700x35 & fenders.

The CX 700 has huge flexability. It has fender & rack mounts that most MTB do not have. It can be a drop-bar 29er like the Fargo or Vaya. It can take Cantilever or Disc brakes. It can be a single speed or multi-speed bike. It can even take an IGH.

I'm going to use it as a test bike for winter conditions, touring and single-track.

But, it will be heavier and more of a beast than most CX bikes.
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Old 12-09-11 | 12:00 PM
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So, the crank arm issue means any double with an external bottom bracket will not work? @Barrettscv, I didnt quite catch if you are still in the building stage or if you are now riding. If the latter, I wold be curious to hear your impressions.

I just bought a used Schwinn World Street as my winter ride. It's okay, but the lack of drops and tire clearance (I run 40mm studded tires and would like space for fenders) leaves me wishing that my Fargo wasn't quite so pricey, and so could be sacrificed to the salt gods. Long & short, I would like to hear more about this frame,as I would consider a swap in a year or 2.
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So, the crank arm issue means any double with an external bottom bracket will not work? @Barrettscv, I didnt quite catch if you are still in the building stage or if you are now riding.
I can say with total certainty that a road double with an external bottom bracket will not work. A MTB double would work or a road crank with a spindle interface will work.

I'm still getting ready to build-up the frame. I have another project ahead of this build, but I have checked over the frame and have completed my componient list.

I know the bike will be a heavier bike than my Soma Double Cross. The wheels & tires alone will add 3 or 4 pounds, and the frame & fork will add a pound or two. That will make the bike feel sluggish on pavement. But, I do expect the bike to be as good or better on choppy gravel and on most single-track. I also want tons of clearance for bigger fenders and studded tires.

My road bike will be used on good pavement, my Soma Cyclocross bike will be used on bad pavement and smooth gravel. This bike will see choppy gravel, some singletrack and winter use.
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I've been using my CX700 setup as my primary for the past ~6 Months. The frame may not be the lightest, but I think its great, especially considering I managed to get a frame+fork for $280 shipped. The weight is true to the O8 website's claims.

The quality control is pretty high on the frames, and the paint is pretty darned nice. But these are symatics; the ride quality is good, and it fits 29x2.1 tires quite easily. For my riding this winter, I've been having great fun with these wide tires - snow isn't a problem, and at low PSI, the bike even handles ice realtively well. If you *do* plan on winter commutes, this might be useful...

It has a nicely designed HT and fork, so it also does well in the summer with slicks. I ran 700x23, and noticed only a bit of road noise. I've got mine built up montercross style, with 42cm drop bars, cross brake levers and 3x8 STI's. Using a casette with an 11 tooth top, I have no quibbles with running my 22-32-42t MTB crank - this gives me a top gear of ~94in. But i'm slow, generally use wide tires, and there a lot of hills around me so I'd never even consider a road crank; a not issue for me with this frame.

The double-eylet up front on the fork is often missed by people. For a tourer/commuter like me, this allows me to use both a low-rider rack for panniers AND a top rack for small stuff sacks. Truly helpful. The rear rack is mounted a bit high, on the seat stays, but so far, no problem with heavy loads and stability. The high-up fender mounts make it near impossible to use the standard fenders on the rear, however. I cannot use the bolt-on type that usually mounts to the dropout area. I DIY'ed it with a few screws. This, again, wasn't make or break, but might be a fuss for commuters.

Those are a few of my thoughts. Hope they helped you to decide.
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