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Simple Request: Windproof, breathable shell for cold, dry winter commuting

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Old 12-19-11 | 01:50 PM
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If you're just looking for an outer layer to layer up with, what about something like the Mountain Hardwear Transitions Jacket. Granted I don't ride in really cold conditions, but it's been functionally windproof/breathable for me down to 28 degree riding and down to around 0 when running (I haven't tested it below that threshold.

Another take on the same thing is Marmot Variant. It's made of breathable/windproof fabric, and the front chest panel includes insulation. I haven't seen many reviews of it & none for biking, but I think I might pick one up.
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Old 12-19-11 | 02:21 PM
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They (modern materials)work for a while,but you will overwelm it if you are actually riding hard for any period of time.

Maybe it's time for battery operated material,it can swell and contract on demand with a button....
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Old 12-19-11 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Kawriverrat
For a jacket I dont care if it is Goretex, Event etc. what ever, I have found repeatedly, pit zips & any other well designed venting is what makes or breaks the jacket used for biking in colder weather or rain.
+1 on the expectation.

If you find otherwise, do let us know. Else, perhaps you need to ride colder -- take off an inner or middle layer, or go with something thinner underneath, so you don't sweat so much.
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Old 12-19-11 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Booger1
They (modern materials)work for a while,but you will overwelm it if you are actually riding hard for any period of time.

Maybe it's time for battery operated material,it can swell and contract on demand with a button....
That's what I'm finding. I don't do my commute at a lazy pace so I end up heating up bigtime and it pretty much overwhelms the capabilities of the fabrics, especially the waterproof/windproof (allegedly breathable), shell that I occasionally wear. Also, Booger1 - you wouldn't be chance be a bike mechanic from Atlanta would you? Used to know a guy at shop there who had "Booger" tattooed on his forearm.
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Old 12-19-11 | 04:27 PM
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Nope.....no tattoos either....I like the name but not enough for a tattoo.
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Old 12-19-11 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by kccommuter
I have a Showers Pass Elite 2.0 which has been great, but my base layer gets damp at temps below 25 Deg F. I have tried severe venting, different base layers, etc but no success. I posted a while back and it seems others just cope with the dampness and use wool base layers, etc - https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...e+condensation
If you're not using a mid layer between your wool base layer and your Shower's Pass shell, that's the problem. Sounds very counter-intuitive, but it's true, and a much better jacket also worn over a base layer but not mid layer will do the same thing. Invest in a cashmere sweater, or a fleece, or a softshell.

Your base layer's job is to move your sweat outward. Your shell can only let so much vapor out, and, once it's at its limit, this starts to condense into drops of sweat, and then it's trapped. You'll start to feel clammy, which is cold in its own right, and, when you stop, like for a red light, your body will try to produce more heat to compensate. An insulating layer puts an end to that, and helps deal with the sweat, away from your body, keeping you nice and comfortable.
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Old 12-19-11 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Booger1
They (modern materials)work for a while,but you will overwelm it if you are actually riding hard for any period of time.

Maybe it's time for battery operated material,it can swell and contract on demand with a button....
Cashmere wool (from goats, not sheep like merino) loses most of its insulating power temporarily, when it gets both warm and humid, which is what happens immediately before you begin to sweat. No button necessary.
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Old 12-20-11 | 08:41 AM
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I have a new balance running jacket that I use for cold rides. It is a thin knit fabric with windproof nylon on the front and top of sleeves only, works well. Layered with a polypro base and then a wool layer. 38 F to at the start today, 18 miles and 1.25 hours. Warm, mostly wind proof and a little sweaty when done. Have you looked at running/ cross country ski type stuff ? I think an insulating soft shell with gore wind proof or something like that would be a good fit. I have gore wind stopper gloves that work great.
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Old 12-20-11 | 10:28 AM
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I use a simple Sierra Design thin nylon wind jacket not made for cycling, although it does have a longer tail. It predates so called "softshells", breathes and has a back vent. The collar is quite large so I can fit a neck fleece tube inside.
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Old 12-21-11 | 10:24 AM
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I use my showers pass elite 2.0 rain shell over my insulating and base layers. Works great. similar scenario for the legs, too.
Once the temps are below freezing I add a thin balaclava that I tuck into my mid layer, and it helps keep the drafts from coming down my neck.
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Old 12-21-11 | 12:37 PM
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Pearl izumi elite barrier. Windproof, water resistant, converts to a vest, so yellow it hurts your eyes to look at. Been commuting in high 20's with this and a wool underlayer.
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