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Digital_Cowboy 02-14-12 03:26 AM


Originally Posted by tjspiel (Post 13824831)
That would largely depend on the owner's attitude towards the employee and their attitude towards bikes in stores. I'll bet there are plenty of non-cyclists who would defend the employee's actions. The level of outrage your feeling over the employee's behavior wouldn't necessarily be shared by the general public. Believe me, I've dealt with some crabby customers and plenty would be far more outraged that there was a bike left in an aisle. There are people who will complain about the smallest things.

As I've said there are those here who believe that if any employee causes the business that they work for embarrassment whether on the job or not, that that is grounds for dismissal. As I've said I do not agree with that.

If an employer wants to have that level of control over an employees life then they need to provide for their employees 24/7/365. To those who think that an employer should be able to fire an employee for embarrassing the business think about this, would you want an employer telling you who you could or couldn't marry?


Originally Posted by tjspiel (Post 13824831)
From my personal experience as a supervisor, I probably wouldn't suspend or fire an employee over a single incident such as this. I'd talk to them about it and if didn't happen again, that would be the end of it. If the employee were on the sh*t list already then there's a good chance it would be the last straw.

As I've said, sadly there are those here who do think that the employer would be "justified" in doing so. I do agree that if said employee is already on "shaky ground" that such a move could well be "the straw that broke the camel's back." And could result in his being fired.


Originally Posted by tjspiel (Post 13824831)
The fact the officer didn't take your case too seriously is one reason why calling the cops would not be first on my list of things to do. Even if it were a car that were stolen, it's going to take a cop 20 minutes just to get there and another 20 to get your story, meanwhile, the bike or car is getting farther and farther away.

So what would be the first thing on your list of things to do when finding your car, or bicycle or what have you stolen?


Originally Posted by tjspiel (Post 13824831)
But again, what happened to you is entirely different from what happened to the OP. The critical difference is that your bike was where it was supposed to be so no one would have cause to move it other than a thief. If I had left my bike in a store aisle, my first thought would be that an employee or customer moved it to get it out of the way. For all we know the employee may have moved the bike as a result of a customer complaint.

True, Given the description of the employees actions I find it difficult to believe that the employee did so under any authority except his own.

Digital_Cowboy 02-14-12 03:28 AM


Originally Posted by AdamDZ (Post 13830502)
You should have locked the bike outside or ask if it's OK to bring it inside. This was not your store.
The guy should have asked you to remove your bike, not handle it himself. This was not his bike.

You were both wrong.

As I've said in previous posts in my case I've been given permission to bring my bicycle inside. More than once before I've even had a chance to look around to find some place to secure it.

In this case I would say that the store employee was more wrong than was the OP.

Digital_Cowboy 02-14-12 03:31 AM


Originally Posted by yep202 (Post 13837987)
Ok, this forums has been going on a lot longer then I had thought. I talked to the manager a day after the bike was taking out of the store. This is the convo. Ring Ring Ring Store Hello, Kroger This is ......... How may I help you? Me, I would like to speak with a manager please. Store, can you hold?? Me, yes. 15 min later. Store manager, HI this is her name. Me Hi, My name is ..... I would like to tell you that yesterday when I went to come shopping at your store around 9:00 am. I brought my bike into the store. Then as I walked away from It I noticed I was being followed by an employee of yours. Which made me think I was being targeted. So After I wasn't being followed I went to check on my bike. It was gone. I started looking for my bike and I happened to be approached by the same employee who was following me around. He said " Are you looking for a bike??" I said "yes" He then said "why would you leave a bike in a store??" I said "so nobody would steal it" He then said to me that I needed to go to the bike store and buy a bike lock. Store manager "Did you get the employee's name??" Me "no" So I gave a description and she said she would check the security cams. She then stated she was very sorry and she couldn't believe that an employee would do such a thing. She also said she would be talking to the employee about it. After that I didn't say anything else I felt she knew the situation and would handle it. That is all. Also I parked my bike next to the soup. Which yes could have been in someones way. I'll admit. I read thought and see if there is anymore ??s to answer. Thanks

That's good to hear. It sounds as if this has been resolved as favorably as one could hope for. Did you ask the manager for permission to bring your bicycle inside in the future?

Digital_Cowboy 02-14-12 03:33 AM


Originally Posted by yep202 (Post 13838018)
I would say that your situations has no similarity to mine what so ever. One- You would be taking care of the table much like someone would take care of a stray animal. Now if a dog came over to your yard and took a crap on you lawn would you place the dog on a busy road?? If you did what would you be thinking??? At the time?? here is your thought Maybe the one time my boss comes over to my house is today. I think not. I'm picking on you because the post you made is an easy target. For one a bike is not and oak table and it will not harm the bike to be in the rain. But it will harm your friend if it was in the rain the table. Much like if my bike was stole it would hurt me. Anyways good on you for moving the table if it would have rained. I would do the same thing. I wouldn't however take someones bike out of a store for fear of that person kicking the crap out of me for touching their property. To me it seems like this guy has got it coming. One day he is going to pick on the wrong person. Then what will he be doing?? Probably sucking a cock. Anyways. like said don't take me seriously* I'm just picking on ya if you will even see this.


Ride on.

I think that you're "picking on" the wrong poster.

hiyer1 02-14-12 08:32 AM

anyone touches my bike they're a dead man...

EXCALIBUR 02-15-12 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by hiyer1 (Post 13849977)
anyone touches my bike they're a dead man...

"Dyin' ain't much of a living, boy" - Josey Wales:eek:

Artkansas 02-15-12 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by AdamDZ (Post 13830502)
You should have locked the bike outside or ask if it's OK to bring it inside. This was not your store.
They guy should have asked you to remove your bike, not handle it himself. This was not his bike.

You were both wrong.

+1

yep202 02-15-12 06:42 AM

Yeah yesterday I went to marsh. Before I called and asked to put my bike in. I talked to three people before I got an anwser also I felt kinda bad after words cuz it had snowed here and my bike melted all over the place. So sorry to who has to clean that up.

MNBikeguy 02-15-12 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by yep202 (Post 13854041)
Yeah yesterday I went to marsh. Before I called and asked to put my bike in. I talked to three people before I got an anwser also I felt kinda bad after words cuz it had snowed here and my bike melted all over the place. So sorry to who has to clean that up.

After all that, you brought you bike inside knowing it was going to crap all over the floor? :lol:

Digital_Cowboy 02-16-12 02:28 AM


Originally Posted by yep202 (Post 13854041)
Yeah yesterday I went to marsh. Before I called and asked to put my bike in. I talked to three people before I got an anwser also I felt kinda bad after words cuz it had snowed here and my bike melted all over the place. So sorry to who has to clean that up.

You could have offered to clean up the mess yourself.

mike 02-16-12 04:52 AM

Isn't it at least a little hypocritical that bicyclists expect and demand equal rights on the road with automobiles, but some bicyclists feel that a bicycle somehow deserves equal rights without equal responsibilities?

I will leapfrog past all the bicyclists who ignore rules of the road while on the roads.

Let us take this specific example. Why do you think it is appropriate or "OK" to bring your vehicle inside a store?

Neither the store owners/management nor other customers want to have your street dirty vehicle in the store with merchandise and other shoppers. I am a bicycle enthusiast and I do not think it is appropriate to bring a bicycle into a store unless the store happens to be a bicycle shop.

Leave your bike outside. Lock it up. So, ya, it might get stolen just like automobiles might get stolen. Deal with it.

yep202 02-16-12 06:37 AM

So I'm thinking of buying a lock. Bringing my bike into the store has caused me to much problems already. I'm pretty sure that sooner or later I ll have this problem again. To everyone with the post thanks. I hope everyone has learned something about bringing your bike in. Only now I need to spend 40 bucks to buy a lock. But that's a small price if it keeps my bike from getting stolen.

Digital_Cowboy 02-16-12 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by mike (Post 13858323)
Isn't it at least a little hypocritical that bicyclists expect and demand equal rights on the road with automobiles, but some bicyclists feel that a bicycle somehow deserves equal rights without equal responsibilities?

I will leapfrog past all the bicyclists who ignore rules of the road while on the roads.

Let us take this specific example. Why do you think it is appropriate or "OK" to bring your vehicle inside a store?

Neither the store owners/management nor other customers want to have your street dirty vehicle in the store with merchandise and other shoppers. I am a bicycle enthusiast and I do not think it is appropriate to bring a bicycle into a store unless the store happens to be a bicycle shop.

Leave your bike outside. Lock it up. So, ya, it might get stolen just like automobiles might get stolen. Deal with it.

Mike,

As not only myself, but others have said there are those of us here who DO in fact have permission to bring our bicycles into their store or business. Again, as I've said in my case at several businesses when I pulled up in front of their store/business before I could find something to lock my bike to I've had the business owner or a manager or an employee come out and tell me to bring my bicycle inside.

Yes, I agree with you and others here who have said that a person shouldn't just bring their bicycle inside of a store or business without permission. But at the same time if a store or business doesn't provide a bicycle rack or or other "facilities" for those who ride bicycles to secure their bicycles then they're left with two choices:

a) bring their bicycle inside
b) do business with a store/business that DOES provide a secure place to lock their bicycle up or allows them to bring their bicycle inside

wphamilton 02-16-12 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by yep202 (Post 13858420)
So I'm thinking of buying a lock. Bringing my bike into the store has caused me to much problems already. I'm pretty sure that sooner or later I ll have this problem again. To everyone with the post thanks. I hope everyone has learned something about bringing your bike in. Only now I need to spend 40 bucks to buy a lock. But that's a small price if it keeps my bike from getting stolen.

Great idea! :thumb:

ottawa_adam 02-17-12 09:45 PM

I agree the situation wasn't dealt with appropriately. While I'm not about to debate the rights and wrongs of bringing your bike into a store, the employee could have communicated more effectively with you.

A good solution? Don't shop there anymore.

yep202 02-17-12 10:29 PM

Yeah, I'm going to do the right thing and next time clean it up. I didn't think of it till you said something.

So if you were an employee at the store, would you look at that guy like he has no respect for peoples property??
I would.

Puget Pounder 02-19-12 01:31 PM

/thread

I can't believe this thread has gone on for this long. OP, May your lock bring you many years of theftlessness :)

erg79 02-19-12 01:44 PM

+1.

This thread is really still a thing?


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