Lonely Locks
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Lonely Locks
I was on my commute the other day, homeward bound, when I made a little side trip to a convenience store to buy a drink. I got back on the bike and rode behind a strip shopping center to get back on route, and there, on a Gas company pipe behind a business I used to work at was a cable, locked to the pipe, no bike. I spun around to have a look and suddenly the cloudiness drifted away from my mind - it was one of my old locks! A Kryptonite cable lock that I had wondered where it went! I stopped working at this place over 5 years ago, so the cable has been there faithfully waiting for me for a long time! I of course do not have a key any more, so the cable will be there until the world ends. However, it made me think - How many orphaned locks do I have around town? At this time, 4. The Cable I just described, and three other U-Locks on three other bike racks around town. Hey, I don't have to carry locks around with me - I just have to remember which keys to bring! How many others have multiple lonely orphaned locks? Hope I remember where they all are if I leave town!
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Bought a really cheap u-lock 15+ years ago to use at work. Used it once or twice - the next time I rode to work couldn't get it unlocked. Lucky it wasn't on my bike. I abandoned the lock. It was still on the rack last year when the hospital replaced that rack with a new, modern wave rack. The old rack, complete with useless lock, is now somewhere else on the hospital campus. I'll keep my eyes peeled for it.
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I don't quite understand the thought process behind permanently leaving a lock at your destination. I honestly couldn't tell the difference between just a few pounds on the bike. It also doesn't seem to be of any use when your at point "C, D, E..." and your lock dangles at point "B".
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I was on my commute the other day, homeward bound, when I made a little side trip to a convenience store to buy a drink. I got back on the bike and rode behind a strip shopping center to get back on route, and there, on a Gas company pipe behind a business I used to work at was a cable, locked to the pipe, no bike. I spun around to have a look and suddenly the cloudiness drifted away from my mind - it was one of my old locks! A Kryptonite cable lock that I had wondered where it went! I stopped working at this place over 5 years ago, so the cable has been there faithfully waiting for me for a long time! I of course do not have a key any more, so the cable will be there until the world ends. However, it made me think - How many orphaned locks do I have around town? At this time, 4. The Cable I just described, and three other U-Locks on three other bike racks around town. Hey, I don't have to carry locks around with me - I just have to remember which keys to bring! How many others have multiple lonely orphaned locks? Hope I remember where they all are if I leave town! 

And here's a good question for those of you who buy locks and leave them at a stores or businesses that you go to all of the time. How is doing that any different from those who lock their bike to a public bike rack and "abandon" it for months at a time?
Likewise, to those who are leaving locks "all over" town, aren't you worried that someone will figure out some way to get a duplicate key made? And then use said key to steal your bike(s)?
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I don't quite understand the thought process behind permanently leaving a lock at your destination. I honestly couldn't tell the difference between just a few pounds on the bike. It also doesn't seem to be of any use when your at point "C, D, E..." and your lock dangles at point "B".
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I'd just like to say, that if you guys have expensive bikes, make certain that you don't establish a pattern, as to where your bike is parked all the time. Every once in a while, you should change parking locations, if you can.
Also, if you're going to have an expensive bike, please have a quality lock to secure it!
Thank you
Also, if you're going to have an expensive bike, please have a quality lock to secure it!
Thank you
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I'd just like to say, that if you guys have expensive bikes, make certain that you don't establish a pattern, as to where you're bike is parked all the time. Every once in a while, you should change parking locations, if you can.
Also, if you're going to have an expensive bike, please have a quality lock to secure it!
Thank you
Also, if you're going to have an expensive bike, please have a quality lock to secure it!
Thank you
So along with changing where one locks his/her bike one should also alter the route(s) that one takes to and from work, or any other frequent destination. Now granted, that said there are destinations that we habitually go to that sadly there just aren't a whole lot of alternate routes to take to get there. So within reason one should alter those routes as best as possible.
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Good point, now you've got me thinking . . . But wait, wouldn't they have the same opportunity if the bike was present? I like Slim's thoughts about not setting a pattern.
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I don't quite understand the thought process behind permanently leaving a lock at your destination. I honestly couldn't tell the difference between just a few pounds on the bike. It also doesn't seem to be of any use when your at point "C, D, E..." and your lock dangles at point "B".
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The only place where I need a lock regularly is at my office, so I leave my Krytonite locked to the rack when I'm not using it. Why lug it back and forth to work every day? It's not just the weight, which is considerable, but the volume it would take up in my seatbag or frame. I keep a small, lightweight cable lock in my seatbag in case I need to make a quick stop somewhere during my commute, but rarely every use it.
BTW, I have a similar problem with combination locks. I have a combo lock that is almost new but I can't use it because I forgot the combination. Generally I write down the combinations for all of my locks in a place where I can find them, but forgot with that lock for some reason.
BTW, I have a similar problem with combination locks. I have a combo lock that is almost new but I can't use it because I forgot the combination. Generally I write down the combinations for all of my locks in a place where I can find them, but forgot with that lock for some reason.
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I leave my NY Fuggadaboudit U-lock at work because it's heavy and annoying to carry. I have several other locks at home I can take with me when I go out somewhere else and need to lock up. Several different cable and U lock, depending on where I'm going and what bike I'm riding. But the heavy duty NYU-Lock lives at work, since I lock up there the most often.
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Makes a huge difference if you commute in every day and lock your bike in the same place. I bought a lock just to leave at my office rack even though I don't ride every day. Saves weight, space, hassle and time.
Sometimes on my way home I take extended rides, up to 30 miles, 3500+ feet. Pretty sure I'd rather not have the lock.
As for the OP, I have 3 locks and 3 keys on my keychain, and I know where they all are
Sometimes on my way home I take extended rides, up to 30 miles, 3500+ feet. Pretty sure I'd rather not have the lock.
As for the OP, I have 3 locks and 3 keys on my keychain, and I know where they all are
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I don't quite understand the thought process behind permanently leaving a lock at your destination. I honestly couldn't tell the difference between just a few pounds on the bike. It also doesn't seem to be of any use when your at point "C, D, E..." and your lock dangles at point "B".
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Just because you have not built a personal relationship with your locks doesn't mean they don't get lonely or remain faithful. Remember, locks are people too!
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The only place where I need a lock regularly is at my office, so I leave my Krytonite locked to the rack when I'm not using it. Why lug it back and forth to work every day? It's not just the weight, which is considerable, but the volume it would take up in my seatbag or frame. I keep a small, lightweight cable lock in my seatbag in case I need to make a quick stop somewhere during my commute, but rarely every use it.
BTW, I have a similar problem with combination locks. I have a combo lock that is almost new but I can't use it because I forgot the combination. Generally I write down the combinations for all of my locks in a place where I can find them, but forgot with that lock for some reason.
BTW, I have a similar problem with combination locks. I have a combo lock that is almost new but I can't use it because I forgot the combination. Generally I write down the combinations for all of my locks in a place where I can find them, but forgot with that lock for some reason.
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Not interested in carrying a u-lock plus a cable/padlock every time I ride to work and especially not interested in getting to work and realizing I forgot the locks.
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I'd just like to say, that if you guys have expensive bikes, make certain that you don't establish a pattern, as to where your bike is parked all the time. Every once in a while, you should change parking locations, if you can.
Also, if you're going to have an expensive bike, please have a quality lock to secure it!
Thank you
Also, if you're going to have an expensive bike, please have a quality lock to secure it!
Thank you
If someone really wants to steal my bike from it's moderately-secure location at the hospital where I work, then they will take it. If they have the opportunity and tools.
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I agree that leaving a lock at a frequent (as in several times a week) lock-up point makes sense - and isn't too much of an impact for the benefit obtained.
Abandoning a lock there for weeks (or more) isn't great. I know a place where the lock forest grew to the point that security chopped them all ... rusty spiderwebbed ones and frequently used ones.
If only the frequently used ones were there, it probably wouldn't have been as much a visual problem. There were probably 40 locks and I never saw more than 2 or three bikes apart from my own. It also wasn't a bike rack - it was a steel fence.
I did lock there daily, until I lost my lock (in the chopping). I got a new one for the nearest bike rack, and for the next six months didn't see more than 5 empty locks there - and 2 at the former lock-forest. I think the lock-forest was a multi-year gathering from students who left them there over the summer and never came back.
Abandoning a lock there for weeks (or more) isn't great. I know a place where the lock forest grew to the point that security chopped them all ... rusty spiderwebbed ones and frequently used ones.
If only the frequently used ones were there, it probably wouldn't have been as much a visual problem. There were probably 40 locks and I never saw more than 2 or three bikes apart from my own. It also wasn't a bike rack - it was a steel fence.
I did lock there daily, until I lost my lock (in the chopping). I got a new one for the nearest bike rack, and for the next six months didn't see more than 5 empty locks there - and 2 at the former lock-forest. I think the lock-forest was a multi-year gathering from students who left them there over the summer and never came back.
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I agree that leaving a lock at a frequent (as in several times a week) lock-up point makes sense - and isn't too much of an impact for the benefit obtained.
Abandoning a lock there for weeks (or more) isn't great. I know a place where the lock forest grew to the point that security chopped them all ... rusty spiderwebbed ones and frequently used ones.
If only the frequently used ones were there, it probably wouldn't have been as much a visual problem. There were probably 40 locks and I never saw more than 2 or three bikes apart from my own. It also wasn't a bike rack - it was a steel fence.
I did lock there daily, until I lost my lock (in the chopping). I got a new one for the nearest bike rack, and for the next six months didn't see more than 5 empty locks there - and 2 at the former lock-forest. I think the lock-forest was a multi-year gathering from students who left them there over the summer and never came back.
Abandoning a lock there for weeks (or more) isn't great. I know a place where the lock forest grew to the point that security chopped them all ... rusty spiderwebbed ones and frequently used ones.
If only the frequently used ones were there, it probably wouldn't have been as much a visual problem. There were probably 40 locks and I never saw more than 2 or three bikes apart from my own. It also wasn't a bike rack - it was a steel fence.
I did lock there daily, until I lost my lock (in the chopping). I got a new one for the nearest bike rack, and for the next six months didn't see more than 5 empty locks there - and 2 at the former lock-forest. I think the lock-forest was a multi-year gathering from students who left them there over the summer and never came back.
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