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Old 04-24-12 | 09:53 PM
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Blind Turns

The thing that peeves me the most about our road design is when a road that they had no problems building a huge shoulder/parking lane all of a sudden narrows to become a single lane, shoulderless, sidewalkless blind curve. It is the most dangerous part of the road yet has the least accommodations for anything but a car. This is an example of what I'm talking about:

https://maps.google.com/?ll=38.78827,...,247.3,,0,3.32

If you had made the turn, a car coming up behind you may not see you until they also make the turn and after they do so, may not be expecting someone only going 15 mph. How do cyclists deal with situations like this? Why do they build roads like this? They obviously had the equipment out there at one time to clear the way and pave the road; how much trouble is it to do 3 more feet on each side?
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Old 04-24-12 | 09:58 PM
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I would ride in the Center of the lane which would require vehicles to change lanes to pass me.
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Old 04-24-12 | 10:17 PM
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My concern is, if had already turned, I would be blind to any driver until they take the turn and by then may be right on top of me. It wouldn't help if I took the lane when they are going twice as fast as me.
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Old 04-24-12 | 11:05 PM
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Pick a route that avoids it. Barring that, bright lights, speed, and pray...
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Old 04-25-12 | 12:28 AM
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I looked at the map and you are screwed. There are no roads that get you away from the turn. Sorry guy.
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Old 04-25-12 | 04:45 AM
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There is a very blind curve on my ride where cars might actually go fast enough to cause serious damage and it's a two-way traffic. It turns left and I need to make a left turn right before that curve:



Staying in the middle is not optimal because cars cross the median when going too fast into the turn from 59th Dr. So I ride to the next intersection or stay all the way to the right and inch up ahead so I can see clear both ways and make a U turn basically into Flushing Ave.
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Old 04-25-12 | 07:27 AM
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I have some blind curves like that on several of my routes. I ride with a very bright flashing taillight that's visible for half a mile in sunlight, and if I'm rounding the corner with traffic not next to me but back far enough that they will encounter me late in the curve or soon after it, I ride to the far left side of the lane, so that my taillight is in their line of sight for as long as possible so they notice that I'm there. When I drop out of their line of sight I move back to the right side of the lane.

During this maneuver you must of course listen/watch for oncoming traffic, because around here at least people like to think that their last name is "Andretti" and they cut corners badly - on the inside even with a 3 foot shoulder they'll cut to the inside of the shoulder and maybe even into the gravel within that. On the outside they'll cut halfway into the oncoming lane.
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Old 04-25-12 | 09:15 AM
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make a sign "blind turn with no shoulder, watch for cyclists" and put it up
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