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Papa Tom 04-26-12 03:28 PM

Is this REALLY what people are thinking?
 
A co-worker screwed up her courage recently and asked me if the reason I bike to work every day is that I got a DWI ! Later, others commented that "Well, why ELSE would anybody bicycle to work every day?"

Apparently, it's just too difficult for the average person to comprehend why we choose to commute by bicycle. I haven't had a drink in about seven years (no drinking problem, no DWI...just a healthy lifestyle choice), yet an intelligent woman who has known me for several years asks me THAT question with a total straight face!

Do you think there are lots of people out there who look at us and right away think "DWI?"

Tuc 04-26-12 03:32 PM

Yep, I believe many people do think that, especially the first time they see you rode in bad weather for biking - rain/snow/cold/heat .

And you know what? It is what I think when I see someone on a converted bicycle with a motor, gas or electric!

ItsJustMe 04-26-12 03:34 PM

From what I gather, that's pretty much the assumption that everyone has when they see an adult on a bicycle. The exception is if you're kitted up in lycra and riding what's clearly an expensive fast bike. In that case you're an arrogant rich jerk playing with a toy and thinking you're so important that you can hold up average people while you goof around showing off.

Those are the prevalent attitudes as far as I can tell.

Rockfish 04-26-12 03:44 PM

Yup. Drunk or broke or both.

wphamilton 04-26-12 03:45 PM

I was self-conscious about people thinking that at first when I was car-free. Then when I first started at my current workplace I used to make it a point to drive in at least once a week, just to dispel that notion.

However, I think that most people don't make that assumption and that your coworkers are anomalies. When anyone brought the subject up (they don't anymore), they'd tentatively offer something about saving the environment, staying healthy, saving money etc and I'd just laugh and say naw, I just like to ride the bike. It might have been in the back of their mind, might still be with some, but I seriously doubt that anyone's jumping to the worst conclusions. If they are, then if they didn't have that to home in on it would just be something else.

Zrane 04-26-12 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by wphamilton (Post 14149550)
I was self-conscious about people thinking that at first when I was car-free. Then when I first started at my current workplace I used to make it a point to drive in at least once a week, just to dispel that notion.

However, I think that most people don't make that assumption and that your coworkers are anomalies. When anyone brought the subject up (they don't anymore), they'd tentatively offer something about saving the environment, staying healthy, saving money etc and I'd just laugh and say naw, I just like to ride the bike. It might have been in the back of their mind, might still be with some, but I seriously doubt that anyone's jumping to the worst conclusions. If they are, then if they didn't have that to home in on it would just be something else.

This is my approach. I've had a few people give me the "what did you do wrong" look in the mornings. Aside from that, my situation mirrors yours. I do drive in at least every two weeks because of needing to drive for work, but that's about it.

Steely Dan 04-26-12 03:57 PM

this might be a geographical phenomenon. here in chicago i've never had anyone question why i ride a bike everywhere. there are thousands of us commuter/utility cyclists in chicago, it's just how we choose to get around the city. and while we're still a minority compared to motorists, we're all over the freaking place and our numbers increase every day. i think in more suburban/rural areas (places where adult cyclists are more of an outlier) the DUI/DWI assumption might be more prevalent.

fietsbob 04-26-12 04:05 PM

There are a few Court Ordered cyclists in this area.

It was in Portland where I saw a Breathalyzer ignition lock on a motorcycle.

GuyForget 04-26-12 04:06 PM

I agree it depends where you live. Riding in the suburbs at times it's just been me and people who seemed to be homeless and/or currently drunk, let alone in trouble for a previous DUI. Within any city I think people will see enough bike commuters to just figure that's how they get to work. Especially in places where you have to pay to park I think it becomes no big deal that someone is riding a bike to work.

Simplyhere 04-26-12 04:22 PM

Here in the rural parts of NC and SC, those small scooters (any scooter for that matter) are called Liquorcycles.

Scheherezade 04-26-12 04:25 PM

One of the things I really enjoy about living in a city with an active bicycle culture is that this doesn't really happen. Pretty much everyone has a friend or relative that enjoys bike commuting, so there's no bone-headedness. But, most people still assume the winter cyclists have a damaged frontal lobe, =)

Sawtooth 04-26-12 04:25 PM

If you turn your drop bars upside down it helps to feed the perception. When I was a teenager/college kid we always called those "DUI bikes". http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_U9vXZjPW-I...400/dui002.jpg

CACycling 04-26-12 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by Sawtooth (Post 14149722)
If you turn your drop bars upside down it helps to feed the perception. When I was a teenager/college kid we always called those "DUI bikes". http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_U9vXZjPW-I...400/dui002.jpg

I've got a coworker (50+ like me) that rides an old 10 speed with the bars flipped. She's car-free by choice but I'm sure many assume she's had a DUI.

ckaspar 04-26-12 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 14149635)
There are a few Court Ordered cyclists in this area.

It was in Portland where I saw a Breathalyzer ignition lock on a motorcycle.

Holy crap! That is just scary!

thompsonpost 04-26-12 05:20 PM

I would have responded with "Yeah, it happens." Then driven in with no intention of riding the next day and made sure it was obvious to everyone that I had driven. Even to the point of asking if I could take the questioner to lunch. "I'll drive."

Papa Tom 04-26-12 06:34 PM

Ha ha! I didn't expect so many responses, let alone people who have experienced the same thing. I've been riding around the same Long Island suburban neighborhood since I was a kid (40 + years ago) and I never even thought about this. Hilarious!

ThermionicScott 04-26-12 06:52 PM

I drive to work often enough that my coworkers know I'm just touched in the head. ;)

Johan13 04-26-12 07:22 PM

I think most people may think this because they are simply reflecting on themselves. They would not bike unless they were forced to by law (in which case they would likely take the bus). I am training to be a physical therapist, and see a lot of different people for many different reasons. One key common theme is that most people do not take care of themselves. They eat like garbage, drink to much and do not exercise at all or little. I have never been accused of having a DUI but anyone that knows me also knows that I really push health promotion. I think drinking really runs a toll on society and am an activist for people reducing the amount they drink. In anycase, good work on the commuting :)

Omiak 04-26-12 07:30 PM

My last job before this one was bicycle delivery so obviously no one questioned why I chose to commute by bike. My boss, however, did commute by bike because he had a DWI. Now I live basically across the street from my job so I walk to work and cycle everywhere else.

RGNY 04-26-12 07:33 PM

yes. i've been asked a few times if i'd lost my license due to a DWI. but most know i'm kind of an activity nut (cycling, boxing, fencing, etc.)

there was one other cyclist at work, who couldn't drive due to a seizure disorder, but i haven't seen him around for a while.....

2manybikes 04-26-12 07:38 PM

I took my car to the LBS one day and one special needs guy who will never be able to have a licence, said " I didn't know you had a car."

BTW - If you have a trike, people think you are handicapped.

old's'cool 04-26-12 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by Johan13 (Post 14150332)
I think drinking really runs a toll on society and am an activist for people reducing the amount they drink. :)

I've been reducing the amount I drink (but it's still a lot)

xenologer 04-26-12 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by CACycling (Post 14149913)
I've got a coworker (50+ like me) that rides an old 10 speed with the bars flipped. She's car-free by choice but I'm sure many assume she's had a DUI.

Seen flipped bars before... I just dont understand, how do they use the brakes when they're facing the wrong way like that? Wouldn't you get a self-actuating effect where as you stop your weight shifts forward thus pushing you harder into the brake levers in an uncontroled loop ending in locked up wheels or worse?

why not just get a long stem to raise the handlebars?




On the original topic:
On my oldest commuter bike I used to feel self-conscious about looking homeless; black bike looks dirty by default, milk crate basket, anti-theft spray paint
Felt a little better after giving it a little makeover, converted to modern threadless fork (with cleaner paint), started to unify colors - replace a silver bolt here and there with black ones to make the bike look less 'busy', same with accessories, made them all black as well so the bike doesnt look covered in random junk

SlimRider 04-26-12 08:47 PM

Alcohol abuse within the United States is a very serious problem. About 1/3 of all motor vehicle related fatalities can be attributed to alcohol. Approximately 20% of all fire-related deaths are due to the abuse of alcohol.

Of course, the most disturbing statistic of all, is the fact that 50% of all domestic homicides are attributed to alcohol abuse.

In general, alcohol poses a very serious potential problem, if its use is not properly monitored and regulated.

What many people assume, is that we're just another segment of society that's been hampered by the addictive effects of alcohol.

Most cyclists don't abuse alcohol...

lhbernhardt 04-26-12 08:49 PM

One of the nice things about riding to work is that you don't have to worry about DWI. I've been to Christmas parties and had too much to drink, and then gotten on the bike to go home. But at that time of year in Vancouver, it's around freezing, so with the wind in your face, plus the exercise, you sober up Real Fast. Plus if you do get clobbered by a car, you have only yourself to blame, and you probably deserved it anyway. Plus your body is being fueled by alcohol, which is a terribly inefficient and painful way to produce energy, so you're out of breath and not even at normal cruising speed. But when I rode up to the police road block (checking for DUI), they just waved me thru... (one of the things they do is take a whiff of the car interior, it's pretty much a dead giveaway, but on a bike, you can't tell!)

Luis


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