Is this REALLY what people are thinking?
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Is this REALLY what people are thinking?
A co-worker screwed up her courage recently and asked me if the reason I bike to work every day is that I got a DWI ! Later, others commented that "Well, why ELSE would anybody bicycle to work every day?"
Apparently, it's just too difficult for the average person to comprehend why we choose to commute by bicycle. I haven't had a drink in about seven years (no drinking problem, no DWI...just a healthy lifestyle choice), yet an intelligent woman who has known me for several years asks me THAT question with a total straight face!
Do you think there are lots of people out there who look at us and right away think "DWI?"
Apparently, it's just too difficult for the average person to comprehend why we choose to commute by bicycle. I haven't had a drink in about seven years (no drinking problem, no DWI...just a healthy lifestyle choice), yet an intelligent woman who has known me for several years asks me THAT question with a total straight face!
Do you think there are lots of people out there who look at us and right away think "DWI?"
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Yep, I believe many people do think that, especially the first time they see you rode in bad weather for biking - rain/snow/cold/heat .
And you know what? It is what I think when I see someone on a converted bicycle with a motor, gas or electric!
And you know what? It is what I think when I see someone on a converted bicycle with a motor, gas or electric!
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From what I gather, that's pretty much the assumption that everyone has when they see an adult on a bicycle. The exception is if you're kitted up in lycra and riding what's clearly an expensive fast bike. In that case you're an arrogant rich jerk playing with a toy and thinking you're so important that you can hold up average people while you goof around showing off.
Those are the prevalent attitudes as far as I can tell.
Those are the prevalent attitudes as far as I can tell.
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I was self-conscious about people thinking that at first when I was car-free. Then when I first started at my current workplace I used to make it a point to drive in at least once a week, just to dispel that notion.
However, I think that most people don't make that assumption and that your coworkers are anomalies. When anyone brought the subject up (they don't anymore), they'd tentatively offer something about saving the environment, staying healthy, saving money etc and I'd just laugh and say naw, I just like to ride the bike. It might have been in the back of their mind, might still be with some, but I seriously doubt that anyone's jumping to the worst conclusions. If they are, then if they didn't have that to home in on it would just be something else.
However, I think that most people don't make that assumption and that your coworkers are anomalies. When anyone brought the subject up (they don't anymore), they'd tentatively offer something about saving the environment, staying healthy, saving money etc and I'd just laugh and say naw, I just like to ride the bike. It might have been in the back of their mind, might still be with some, but I seriously doubt that anyone's jumping to the worst conclusions. If they are, then if they didn't have that to home in on it would just be something else.
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I was self-conscious about people thinking that at first when I was car-free. Then when I first started at my current workplace I used to make it a point to drive in at least once a week, just to dispel that notion.
However, I think that most people don't make that assumption and that your coworkers are anomalies. When anyone brought the subject up (they don't anymore), they'd tentatively offer something about saving the environment, staying healthy, saving money etc and I'd just laugh and say naw, I just like to ride the bike. It might have been in the back of their mind, might still be with some, but I seriously doubt that anyone's jumping to the worst conclusions. If they are, then if they didn't have that to home in on it would just be something else.
However, I think that most people don't make that assumption and that your coworkers are anomalies. When anyone brought the subject up (they don't anymore), they'd tentatively offer something about saving the environment, staying healthy, saving money etc and I'd just laugh and say naw, I just like to ride the bike. It might have been in the back of their mind, might still be with some, but I seriously doubt that anyone's jumping to the worst conclusions. If they are, then if they didn't have that to home in on it would just be something else.
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this might be a geographical phenomenon. here in chicago i've never had anyone question why i ride a bike everywhere. there are thousands of us commuter/utility cyclists in chicago, it's just how we choose to get around the city. and while we're still a minority compared to motorists, we're all over the freaking place and our numbers increase every day. i think in more suburban/rural areas (places where adult cyclists are more of an outlier) the DUI/DWI assumption might be more prevalent.
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I agree it depends where you live. Riding in the suburbs at times it's just been me and people who seemed to be homeless and/or currently drunk, let alone in trouble for a previous DUI. Within any city I think people will see enough bike commuters to just figure that's how they get to work. Especially in places where you have to pay to park I think it becomes no big deal that someone is riding a bike to work.
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One of the things I really enjoy about living in a city with an active bicycle culture is that this doesn't really happen. Pretty much everyone has a friend or relative that enjoys bike commuting, so there's no bone-headedness. But, most people still assume the winter cyclists have a damaged frontal lobe, =)
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If you turn your drop bars upside down it helps to feed the perception. When I was a teenager/college kid we always called those "DUI bikes". https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_U9vXZjPW-I...400/dui002.jpg
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If you turn your drop bars upside down it helps to feed the perception. When I was a teenager/college kid we always called those "DUI bikes". https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_U9vXZjPW-I...400/dui002.jpg
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Ha ha! I didn't expect so many responses, let alone people who have experienced the same thing. I've been riding around the same Long Island suburban neighborhood since I was a kid (40 + years ago) and I never even thought about this. Hilarious!
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I drive to work often enough that my coworkers know I'm just touched in the head.
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I think most people may think this because they are simply reflecting on themselves. They would not bike unless they were forced to by law (in which case they would likely take the bus). I am training to be a physical therapist, and see a lot of different people for many different reasons. One key common theme is that most people do not take care of themselves. They eat like garbage, drink to much and do not exercise at all or little. I have never been accused of having a DUI but anyone that knows me also knows that I really push health promotion. I think drinking really runs a toll on society and am an activist for people reducing the amount they drink. In anycase, good work on the commuting
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My last job before this one was bicycle delivery so obviously no one questioned why I chose to commute by bike. My boss, however, did commute by bike because he had a DWI. Now I live basically across the street from my job so I walk to work and cycle everywhere else.
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yes. i've been asked a few times if i'd lost my license due to a DWI. but most know i'm kind of an activity nut (cycling, boxing, fencing, etc.)
there was one other cyclist at work, who couldn't drive due to a seizure disorder, but i haven't seen him around for a while.....
there was one other cyclist at work, who couldn't drive due to a seizure disorder, but i haven't seen him around for a while.....
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why not just get a long stem to raise the handlebars?
On the original topic:
On my oldest commuter bike I used to feel self-conscious about looking homeless; black bike looks dirty by default, milk crate basket, anti-theft spray paint
Felt a little better after giving it a little makeover, converted to modern threadless fork (with cleaner paint), started to unify colors - replace a silver bolt here and there with black ones to make the bike look less 'busy', same with accessories, made them all black as well so the bike doesnt look covered in random junk
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Alcohol abuse within the United States is a very serious problem. About 1/3 of all motor vehicle related fatalities can be attributed to alcohol. Approximately 20% of all fire-related deaths are due to the abuse of alcohol.
Of course, the most disturbing statistic of all, is the fact that 50% of all domestic homicides are attributed to alcohol abuse.
In general, alcohol poses a very serious potential problem, if its use is not properly monitored and regulated.
What many people assume, is that we're just another segment of society that's been hampered by the addictive effects of alcohol.
Most cyclists don't abuse alcohol...
Of course, the most disturbing statistic of all, is the fact that 50% of all domestic homicides are attributed to alcohol abuse.
In general, alcohol poses a very serious potential problem, if its use is not properly monitored and regulated.
What many people assume, is that we're just another segment of society that's been hampered by the addictive effects of alcohol.
Most cyclists don't abuse alcohol...
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One of the nice things about riding to work is that you don't have to worry about DWI. I've been to Christmas parties and had too much to drink, and then gotten on the bike to go home. But at that time of year in Vancouver, it's around freezing, so with the wind in your face, plus the exercise, you sober up Real Fast. Plus if you do get clobbered by a car, you have only yourself to blame, and you probably deserved it anyway. Plus your body is being fueled by alcohol, which is a terribly inefficient and painful way to produce energy, so you're out of breath and not even at normal cruising speed. But when I rode up to the police road block (checking for DUI), they just waved me thru... (one of the things they do is take a whiff of the car interior, it's pretty much a dead giveaway, but on a bike, you can't tell!)
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