I take video and post the results, but the only time I "worry" about it is when turning the camera on or off at the ends of my rides. It actually improves my defensive riding since I can analyze incidents after the fact and determine what I could've done better.

Same here, plus many sports teams have been doing this for years.

Dont feed the Germans. They get all cranky!



Chill bro!

and yes, I am German.

Yes, living is risky. I drove 1/4 mile oval dirt-track for 12 years, racing almost every weekend during the season. During that 12 years a lot of my cars got torn up, but my only injury of any significance was my one and only rollover during my 8th year of racing. It knocked the wind out of me and gave me an aching back that pretty much incapacitated me for three days.* But, here's the irony...a few months before that, I was walking across my kitchen floor and my foot started to slip on a small spill and then suddenly regained traction which jerked and pivoted me suddenly. This produced the exact same backache as the dirt-track wreck, the same exact degree of pain, the same duration. I retired from stock car racing due to burnout and cost, but I don't plan to retire from walking across my kitchen floor and its inevitable that sometimes something will have spilled on it.

You take reasonable precautions and after that you take your chances.

*(The same night my #1 pit crew member took over and won the feature despite having to start all the way to the back since my attempt to qualify for the feature terminated with the rollover. That was Friday night. Sunday he drove again and won the special show that day.)

Don in Austin

Especially right now for the ones that like soccer.

1. I'm not German.
2. No one rational expected Germany to beat Spain. Perhaps Italy, but not Spain as they haven't lost a knock-out game since 2006 (2 EuroCups - 2008/2012 and 1 World Cup - 2010)
3. I don't think that filming is bad per se ... so don't use what I stated out of context.
4. If the OP was think of posting a thread about hitting 700 miles on the bike AND he crashed at 699.9, where do you think his helmet-mounted cam was looking ... my money would be on the odometer so that he/she could watch it rotate from 699.9 to 700.
5. That's also my guess as to why we haven't seen any video.
6. But, whatever, side with cyclist by default.

I wouldn't have left without getting his insurance details, even if you don't file an initial claim. I know both of you were just probably being nice, but better safe than sorry.

There was a study showing a correlation between people using video cameras on their bikes and increased crashes, collisions with car, bikes and peds, and near misses. Had something to do with a heightened sense of invincibility. I'll post the link when I find it.

This is what I would do also, never know what could come up later.

All too funny, with the addition a video cams, I still have not been in a collision with a car, or increased the number of near misses with cars, bikes, and peds. If anything, the near misses have diminished somewhat since I learned from reviewing my videos that I needed to change my lane positioning ever so slightly.

My thoughts were not on the odometer. If I wanted I could easily set the odo to 699 and ride a mile to get the rollover. It just happened to occur at 699.9. I value my life more than a number on a computer that is not 100% accurate.

The reason I have not posted the vid is because I am waiting for there to be a resolution. I have read many times on these threads to not post details or anything else regarding an accident for fear of an attorney lurking and using my statements against me if it comes to that.

I started the thread because I was curious what other have done regarding their SO and an accident. I did not NOT start this thread asking for fellow cyclists to take sides. That is none of our jobs. However it ends up is how it is going to end up.

Once the matter is resolved I will be more than happy to post the video.

Anyone who takes issue with folks wearing a camera...I am glad I have the video. I have already learned ways that maybe I can be a little safer in my riding. Not only with this incident but with other rides I have done. It helps with recall in how a situation happened (see some of my other posts on the topic). When I told the insurance lady yesterday I had a video and she said it should make things much easier is getting a resolution. Was that my purpose? NO. Is it a benefit of filming my rides? YES? I don't ride reckless or take more chances because I have a camera on my head. I forget about it until I get home. It does not sit on my helmet and encourage me to do unsafe things just because it is running. As evidenced by my incident on Tuesday, the camera is not going to prevent an accident. It merely documents it. After reviewing the video there are things I didn't remember because I was still in a haze from the shock of getting hit. The camera worked as that reminder. For example, when I took his number down I mistyped his phone number, jittery fingers or whatever, I reviewed the camera and got the correct number and called him. I would be screwed without it. Just sayin'

at post-purchase rationalization

however, i remain interested in how this turns out

I've never been hit so can't speak from experience. That said if you were driving to work and were involved in a collision with another vehicle would she put a veto on you driving to work? It's easy to focus on confirming preconceived ideas (cycling is dangerous, you got hit, which proves cycling is dangerous) where an all-but identical situation confirms equally preconceived ideas (driving is safe, you got hit, unlucky dude, get back in the car and be more careful).

Just one comment that seems to be a recurring theme where collisions with cars are concerned, and that's to make sure you really are OK. You don't want to be too quick to sign statements saying you're perfectly OK and then find a couple of months down the line your hands don't quite work as they should or some such.

It's a good call not to go into all the details, so if it's 100% clear you haven't taken any personal injuries you may feel comfortable making a formal declaration to that effect.

huh? What do you mean?

Glad you told your wife relatively soon. You need to do that no matter what.
When I told my wife about getting broadsided by a Jeep, I immediately started talking about fixing up my old hybrid for a commuter until I could settle with the driver's insurance company. Ceasing to commute never entered the conversation.
She wasn't real sympathetic with my amazing bruise and hematoma, but she accepts my own risk assessment.
Our kids are grown, so it's a different situation, but you've got to be upfront with your partner.

I agree on not saying, " I'm fine. I'm not hurt." I didn't even know it at the time, but I smacked my ankle in my accident. The bruise didn't show up for almost 2weeks after. I hope the video helps your case and glad you're ok.

Just to clarify I never said I was not hurt. Just that "I was OK", implying that I was not dead or severely wounded. I do have some scrapes/cuts and aches and pains and I am monitoring them and if need be will see a doctor but at this point I don't see a need for it but if the need arises and things look or get worse then I will not hesitate to see a doctor.

I have learned my lesson on calling the police and getting the insurance info for sure. It is turning into a pain in the @$$ but it will work itself out I am sure. Will keep anyone that is interested up to date on how things develop.

1. not calling police
2. not getting checked out

:facepalm:

do you really have a family?

What is a doctor going to do? Point out the injuries I do have and say, "Yup, your cut there". They are not gonna do x-rays, MRIs CAT scans just because a guy walks in and says he was hit by a car. If the symptoms warrant it then they would but not just because a guy wants it done. I already told my insurance the injuries I am aware of now and let them know I am monitoring my body looking for signs of any new pains. I told them I would notify them if I experience any other aches or pains. They were fine with that scenario.

I really do have a family. What are you getting at?

Getting hit/tapped by a car is un avoidable if you ride in traffic, someday and someway it's going to happen, it's a matter of being mentally prepared for it. After being hit by at least 10 cars in my years on my various bikes, some lost to cars, I do as mentioned before I look for reasons I may have been hit and do what I can to avoid that condition that favored me getting tagged by the car.

My wife and daughter get tired of me bringing up and pointing out situations where getting hit by a car was a high probabilty in a given situation. So far my daughter has avoided a couple close calls from my advice and for me that makes my experience of getting hit worth all the pain and headache.

It's all about how you prepare for it mentally...

@acidfast7 I looked at a few of the threads you posted. You seem so concerned with me having a video camera running and the mileage my odometer was when I got hit. I noticed that you seem to post lost of photos, particularly the 50 mile ride where you happened to notice you passed 1000km.

How is that any different from what I was doing with my camera and my bike computer?

Does the fact that my odometer was at 699.9 miles have any part in the accident?
Answer: NO. Why not you may ask. If it did then where are my videos of 100 through 600 miles?

Why is 700 so special? Answer: It's not. Just an observation and odd coincidence that I got wrecked at 699.9. Nothing more.

Do I have a photo or video of when my car rolled to 100k miles or 200k miles? Nope! Why not? Answer: I am not a big milestone kinda guy like that. When I was going to post about the 700 miles being surpassed it was just going to be that I was happy to have ridden 700 miles since March not save the odometer video for posterity sake. If I wanted a video of the mileage I would have worn the chest strap to make sure I caught the, in your mind, ever so great moment. I can barely see the computer with the camera when the camera is mounted on my helmet.

True that! I knew it was a possibility that I would get hit and tried to prepare myself mentally for it. I also tried to prepare my wife but seeing as how she was not the one riding she didn't have to face that fact everyday. It would be a kiss followed by a "ride safe" in the morning as I left. I was seeing possible accidents happening on the road all day and doing my best to avoid them. I was not able to avoid this one but handled it in the best way I can. My wife is a little more apprehensive about it but she understands now, I think.

We have had the car vs. bike death likelihood several times in the last 2 days. I even asked her cousin, an ER nurse, how many car accident victims she sees. She said, "Lots!' I asked about bike accident victims, "She said not many." I then asked the wrong timed joke and asked if they take them straight to the morgue. She laughed and my wife didn't find it funny at all. I have a sick sense of humor.

What did your Lawyer say? get any compensation from the drivers Insurance company?

or did you not get a statement and documentation at the time? PD report?

Well, one of the things the doctor will do is mental state assessment. Humans are very bad at noticing that they've injured their brain and acting irrationally.

So you actually go back and watch all your commutes? How in the world do you have time for that? It sounds a tad weird to me.