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Originally Posted by acidfast7
(Post 14465706)
Where did you live for 400 USD? Lappis? Good parties and some nice swimming there.
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Originally Posted by degnaw
(Post 14466710)
Yup.
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Stop lights Yes. Absolutely.
Stop signs. . . eh. . . I will if there's cars around otherwise. . . I slow down as much as I can without falling over. |
Originally Posted by acidfast7
(Post 14460904)
After living in Stockholm and Montréal, I can firmly say that Montréal is quite the craphole compared to Stockholm in terms of quality of housing, transport and overall quality of life ... crime "statistics" be damned.
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Originally Posted by Steely Dan
(Post 14461347)
on a bike:
stop sign = yield sign stop light = stop sign |
I always stop at red lights. My commute in to work is nice because it is 5am and all the lights are flashing yellow. :)
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No we ride like this. lol
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Couriers are crazy, but I think I trust them more than the average joe on there bike just because they do this all day every day.
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Originally Posted by supernovae
(Post 14461713)
I stop at red lights, all of them. If its a triggered light, i usually ride over to cross walk and hit the button or else i'll be there forever. At stop signs, i track stand, but look.
I get annoyed as hell when i see people plow through red lights on the route i ride, 3 lane high way isn't the safest road to blow through lights on when the speeds can be as high as 65+ H |
Where I live in southern England, most cyclists (myself included) obey red lights, although not all of them do. I can't really say anything about stop signs, there aren't very many of them around here, and I can't recall ever having seen a cyclist go past one.
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Funny thing is when I do stop cars will always give me a wave for right of way even if they should have right of way and then when they come by me they give me lots of space. I call it 'bike karma' and it works nearly every time. Do the right thing and you'll be paid back in full and more!
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Originally Posted by Steely Dan
(Post 14461347)
on a bike:
stop sign = yield sign stop light = stop sign |
Originally Posted by Trifusion
(Post 14484571)
Funny thing is when I do stop cars will always give me a wave for right of way even if they should have right of way and then when they come by me they give me lots of space. I call it 'bike karma' and it works nearly every time. Do the right thing and you'll be paid back in full and more!
When I am stopped and waiting for a traffic signal I invariably look behind me to see if the car behind me is trying to make a right turn. If he/she is and seems to be holding off out of fear of causing me injury, I always move out of their way and motion for them to go ahead and make the right. I don't know if karma is real or not - but it doesn't hurt to be nice where I can be. |
In some countries it is legal to go through a red light if you are turning right. Applies to all vehicles.
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Stop light, always. Stop sign...a rolling stop if there are no cars. If there's a car going my same direction I do a full stop, just like the car does. Don't like to make cyclists look bad.
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I try to obey. I look three and four times.
However, if I am at a stop light and via mirror see or "hear" a car speeding towards me approaching the stop light--- I get the hell out of the way. Two years ago, I was quite proud of my mastery of road riding. Then one day my fragile bubble burst. As I waited in the far right lane (for the light to turn green)--- a police officer approached in a marked squad car, blew his "horn", turned on the sirens and did the microphone/intercom thingamajig at me. That intercom thing was LOUD. He yelled, "GET OUT OF THE WAY! NOW!" He was very aggressive and kept blowing his horn/siren. I was quite embarrassed. He scared the crap out of me. The looks on the faces of the drivers was one of horror. I felt like crying. It was very intimidating. Did I say I was embarrased? He was literally right on my back wheel. I refuse to bicker with drivers. Its whatever. I get out of the way quickly. |
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You should have reported the jerk cop. Their boss hate it when they illegally use their sirens. |
In Florida, law enforcement car tints are kinda dark.
I remember the noise. I couldn't understand why he was so close and SOOO loud. I thought perhaps I was blocking a fire engine, or ambulance but it was only him: honking and yelling on the intercom. Some people in a Lexus SUV were in the middle lane and the lady passenger's face I will never forget--she looked completely horrified and scared. He scared the beejeebies out of me. I have also been followed. Another very unsettling feeling. I have come to realize: some people's greatest pleasure is provoking fear in others. |
Originally Posted by supernovae
(Post 14461713)
I stop at red lights, all of them. If its a triggered light, i usually ride over to cross walk and hit the button or else i'll be there forever. At stop signs, i track stand, but look.
I get annoyed as hell when i see people plow through red lights on the route i ride, 3 lane high way isn't the safest road to blow through lights on when the speeds can be as high as 65+ |
If I don't see any cars, I slow down at stop signs to the point where I could stop quite shortly if need be, then scan all directions and will roll through if there's no other traffic.
Basically treating it like a yield. Naturally, if there are other vehicles at or approaching the intersection, I stop and wait my turn to go through - not only is this the law, it's just safer that way. +1 on the comment that drivers will sometimes wave you through because you're acting sensible and predictable. I always stop at red lights. I narrowly avoided getting completely taken out by a car about 13 years ago by not doing so, and I decided to not push my luck and never make that same mistake again. |
Originally Posted by Novakane
(Post 14497370)
If I don't see any cars, I slow down at stop signs to the point where I could stop quite shortly if need be, then scan all directions and will roll through if there's no other traffic.
Basically treating it like a yield. Naturally, if there are other vehicles at or approaching the intersection, I stop and wait my turn to go through - not only is this the law, it's just safer that way. +1 on the comment that drivers will sometimes wave you through because you're acting sensible and predictable. I always stop at red lights. I narrowly avoided getting completely taken out by a car about 13 years ago by not doing so, and I decided to not push my luck and never make that same mistake again. This is my policy. I am really bothered by bikes rolling through red lights. I am in complete agreeance that we need to treat ourselves like a vehicle if we want others to treat us like a vehicle. In Dallas a couple of months ago there was a hipster on a SS that blew through a red light. One of the news outlets had a couple of folks commenting on how dangerous it is to ride in Dallas. Really? Blowing through a red light and getting T-Boned is an example of how dangerous it is? Kind of like teenagers who want to be treated like an adult when it comes to adult privileges but treated like a kid when it comes to adult responsibilities. Which is it, are we a vehicle or not? |
Originally Posted by DTSCDS
(Post 14497996)
^^^^^
This is my policy. I am really bothered by bikes rolling through red lights. I am in complete agreeance that we need to treat ourselves like a vehicle if we want others to treat us like a vehicle. In Dallas a couple of months ago there was a hipster on a SS that blew through a red light. One of the news outlets had a couple of folks commenting on how dangerous it is to ride in Dallas. Really? Blowing through a red light and getting T-Boned is an example of how dangerous it is? Kind of like teenagers who want to be treated like an adult when it comes to adult privileges but treated like a kid when it comes to adult responsibilities. Which is it, are we a vehicle or not? The vast majority of cyclists mainly drive for transportation and cycle for recreation. As drivers it irks you to see bicyclists getting away with something. As a cyclist you feel guilty when you even think about rolling through that intersection. I am not in the slightest risk of getting T-boned when I blow through a red light because I wouldn't be blowing the red if there was cross traffic to T-bone me. Its the disapproval of the stopped traffic going in the same direction that the goody-two-shoes are afraid of. I wonder why. As soon as they get the green and catch up and pass the cyclist that has them so hot and bothered s/he is forgotten. Utterly. On to the next thing. Despite the immense horsepower advantage of a car over a bicycle, the realities of infrastructure limits most cars to an average of 17mph. I can average 15mph some days commuting like a bicycle. Other days its closer to 12mph. The difference is usually wind. Most cars are not affected one way or the other by wind. Driven like a car my average speed on a bicyle would be closer to 5mph to 8mph and I would be better off jogging my 7.5mi. commute. People who can get in cars with speed potentials of 100mph and accept a 17mph average as acceptable won't have too much sympathy if a cyclist gives up 2/3 of their potential top speed to behaving well on the road. But I'm not going to be shamed into it. Sorry. H |
Every few months I think a light has missed me so I go through when I can. More frequently, but not too frequently, if I'm going along the top of a T I might roll through it.
Stop signs are definitely roll-throughs. The last couple of days my daughter and I rode through a street closed for construction; on the sidewalk (not closed) during work hours, and just on the not-dug-up part of the street when they left it closed after work rather than put that metal plate back over the hole. |
The way 5-0 has been here lately, I don't want to risk a citation by blowing a Red.
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Originally Posted by BadBoy10
(Post 14485803)
I try to obey. I look three and four times.
However, if I am at a stop light and via mirror see or "hear" a car speeding towards me approaching the stop light--- I get the hell out of the way. Tywo years ago, I was quite proud of my mastery of road riding. Then one day my fragile bubble burst. As I waited in the far right lane (for the light to turn green)--- a police officer approached in a marked squad car, blew his "horn", turned on the sirens and did the microphone/intercom thingamajig at me. That intercom thing was LOUD. He yelled, "GET OUT OF THE WAY! NOW!" He was very aggressive and kept blowing his horn/siren. I was quite embarrassed. He scared the crap out of me. The looks on the faces of the drivers was one of horror. I felt like crying. It was very intimidating. Did I say I was embarrased? He was literally right on my back wheel. I refuse to bicker with drivers. Its whatever. I get out of the way quickly. Last time I checked motorists were expected to give priority to emergency vehicles - fire trucks, ambulances and police cars with lights and sirens. Why should bicycles be an exception? |
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