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I Finally Got Yelled At
I was toodling along on my normal route and some guy in a truck was passing me and he yelled something about getting to the right. In his defense I was in the middle lane but...there is a reason. The far right lane dumps to a freeway on ramp and I am about to crest a hill. I move to the middle lane for 2 reasons. There is a sign that says "Through Traffic Merge Left" which I had done and I always move to the middle lane BEFORE cresting the hill so folks a mile back can see that a cyclist is in that lane so they don't try to power through it and kill me. If I were to wait until the hill crested then I would be where they don't expect and I don't like that.
I got to work and told the story to a coworker. She said, "Well why were you on the street? Aren't you supposed to be in a bike lane? And you can't be on the sidewalk because that is illegal." I was flabbergasted. I have been riding consistently since March and she just now realizes that I don't use a bike lane on every street? I asked her, "How do you think I get down the street? There is no bike lane even close to us and per your own admission sidewalks are illegal here." She just thought for a second as I giggled. We then got into a discussion about how it drives her nuts to see a cyclist in the left lane. I was even more appalled but tried to explain the situation to her. The driving public has no clue for the most part what rights a cyclist has on the road. The truck that was yelling at me was a work truck and I got it on camera. I am thinking of calling the employer just to ask him to educate his drivers with regards to bikes in the street. I'll do my best to explain it to my coworkers here I guess. lol |
Just the other day this guy in a pickup truck slows down to yell "ride your damn bike on the sidewalk!"
So I yelled back with a smile: "NO! Drive your damn truck on the sidewalk!" I was on a street in my subdivision, not on any main roads. There's plenty of room to pass... |
Originally Posted by PedalingFool
(Post 14550605)
Just the other day this guy in a pickup truck slows down to yell "ride your damn bike on the sidewalk!"
So I yelled back with a smile: "NO! Drive your damn truck on the sidewalk!" I was on a street in my subdivision, not on any main roads. There's plenty of room to pass... |
I hear "Get on the sidewalk!" about once a year.
One variation of that was a calm "You should be in the bike lane" through a rolled down window after I merged into the straight through lane approaching an intersection where the bike lane goes to the right of the right turn lane. |
SideWALK. If you are walking your bike, get on the sidewalk.
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I've only been told to ride on the sidewalk by little old ladies who say things like "It's not safe on those roads, dear!" I'm guessing the kind of person who yells at a cyclist like that doesn't know what the rules are, doesn't care what the rules are, and is probably just as aggressive when faced with pedestrians and other drivers. I did get yelled at once, but it was my first time trying a new route I really hadn't scoped out properly in advance, and I absolutely deserved the ire I got, as I'd wandered onto a street without enough room and had to just stick it out in the right lane, slowing traffic, until I could turn and regroup.
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Well, I'd rather have been yelled at this morning than hit. :p
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Originally Posted by mcrow
(Post 14550794)
Well, I'd rather have been yelled at this morning than hit. :p
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I don't like to ride on sidewalks...
For some reason people like to walk on them and keep getting in my way. |
Originally Posted by alan s
(Post 14550676)
SideWALK. If you are walking your bike, get on the sidewalk.
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Originally Posted by PedalingFool
(Post 14550799)
I don't like to ride on sidewalks...
For some reason people like to walk on them and keep getting in my way. |
Maybe you're just not in a very bike-friendly area.
Corvallis here seems pretty decent to riders. There are bike lanes and bike racks all over the place, and I mainly stick to them, but when necessary I'll use the other lanes. I've not been yelled at so far. The other day I was waiting at a red light in the left turn lane, because I wanted to make a left turn, and a couple of girls on the corner trying to sell car washing asked me to come back with my car. I told 'em the Giant is my car, and they said okay, come over here and we'll wash that. :lol: |
Originally Posted by ckaspar
(Post 14550567)
...I was in the middle lane but...there is a reason. The far right lane dumps to a freeway on ramp...
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Originally Posted by jbiddenback
(Post 14551453)
Maybe you're just not in a very bike-friendly area.
Corvallis here seems pretty decent to riders. There are bike lanes and bike racks all over the place, and I mainly stick to them, but when necessary I'll use the other lanes. I've not been yelled at so far. The other day I was waiting at a red light in the left turn lane, because I wanted to make a left turn, and a couple of girls on the corner trying to sell car washing asked me to come back with my car. I told 'em the Giant is my car, and they said okay, come over here and we'll wash that. :lol: |
Originally Posted by ckaspar
(Post 14550567)
The driving public has no clue for the most part what rights a cyclist has on the road.
You pretty much just summed up all the troubles a cyclist goes through on the road. Try explaining why a cyclist has the right of way if he is in a bike lane going straight at a stop light and there is a car wanting to turn right that arrived before the bike. This one gets people so mad. : P I have a few friends who don't understand it and think I'm crazy/an %&@*hole for riding on the road. I just tell them if they see me don't hit me. |
Originally Posted by juggleaddict
(Post 14552981)
Try explaining why a cyclist has the right of way if he is in a bike lane going straight at a stop light and there is a car wanting to turn right that arrived before the bike. This one gets people so mad. : P I have a few friends who don't understand it and think I'm crazy/an %&@*hole for riding on the road. I just tell them if they see me don't hit me.
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Originally Posted by PedalingFool
(Post 14550605)
I was on a street in my subdivision, not on any main roads. There's plenty of room to pass...
Originally Posted by workablekitchen
(Post 14550714)
I did get yelled at once, but it was my first time trying a new route I really hadn't scoped out properly in advance, and I absolutely deserved the ire I got, as I'd wandered onto a street without enough room and had to just stick it out in the right lane, slowing traffic, until I could turn and regroup.
We are allowed on main roads, and even the use of full lanes when they are not wide enough to safely share. There also is no prohibition on causing other traffic to slow down provided you are following the law. (The actual laws, not the ones motorists make up) If they yell at you it only shows their ignorance of the rules of the road. It also proves that they can see you, and are most unlikely to actually hit you. |
Originally Posted by AlmostTrick
(Post 14553911)
There also is no prohibition on causing other traffic to slow down provided you are following the law. (The actual laws, not the ones motorists make up) If they yell at you it only shows their ignorance of the rules of the road.
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If it was a work truck, I'd DEFINITELY complain to the company that owns it.
Originally Posted by AlmostTrick
(Post 14553911)
We are allowed on main roads, and even the use of full lanes when they are not wide enough to safely share. There also is no prohibition on causing other traffic to slow down provided you are following the law. (The actual laws, not the ones motorists make up)
. Most states have laws regarding bicyclists inhibiting the flow of traffic, some allow it, some don't. Most bicyclists don't know the bike laws for **** either. It's against the law in most states to ride on a sidewalk if the road has a marked bike lane, yet I see it almost everyday, on a road with one of the better bike lanes I've ever ridden. |
Originally Posted by SteamingAlong
(Post 14554288)
If it was a work truck, I'd DEFINITELY complain to the company that owns it.
Confused by phrasing... Most states have laws regarding bicyclists inhibiting the flow of traffic, some allow it, some don't. ... |
if there is a constant flow of traffic on a street then a cyclist can't really do much about slowing down other traffic other than just proceed normally. If I could pull over and let people pass, I will do so, but that is very rarely the case. YMMV given local traffic conditions. In most cases, just coming to a stop will slow down other traffic more than if I just keep going. I am not obnoxious enough to demonstrate this fact to some of the motorists that want me out of their way.
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There was a whole other lane for any motorist to use to pass me. The yelling driver was using that lane when he drove by me to yell at me to "(inaudible)...to the right" as he waved his hand across the passenger seat. As far as I know I was totally legal and the people I have explained the situation to had all understood, excluding the first employee I told.
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Originally Posted by unterhausen
(Post 14554364)
if there is a constant flow of traffic on a street then a cyclist can't really do much about slowing down other traffic other than just proceed normally. If I could pull over and let people pass, I will do so, but that is very rarely the case. YMMV given local traffic conditions. In most cases, just coming to a stop will slow down other traffic more than if I just keep going. I am not obnoxious enough to demonstrate this fact to some of the motorists that want me out of their way.
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Originally Posted by Commodus
(Post 14554525)
Yea sometimes you can pull over and let people by, but it doesn't work well very often. Worthwhile when it does, though. Spreads good cheer and all that.
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I wonder at the sizes of riders that have been treated poorly. Being well into super clydesdale size range, I will kill a car as surely as any white-tailed or non-trophy mule deer if it hits me at significant speed; unlike a deer I might get up with a grudge and a weapon. That idea may have some influence on motor vehicle drivers' interactions, but I don't know.
What about you folks? Anyone heard of any studies or coincidental findings of correlation (or lack thereof) between rider size and motorist behavior toward the rider? |
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