Here is the NY STD lock...
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r6/kukulaj/lock.jpg

I've used long and short shackle u-locks, and I much prefer the compactness of the evo-mini. Fits in your pocket, lightweight, and locks up rear+frame to just about any pole and most bike racks. If you are paranoid about finding a good place to lock up your bike, the evo-mini might be more trouble than its worth. However, I've found a place to lock up within a half-block of just about anywhere I throughout urban/suburban Twin Cities.

How do you guys prefer to lock up your bikes those with an Evo mini?

Do you go through the spokes and rear triangle frame + post? Just frame+post? do you have additional cables for your front tire?

Do you feel a peace of mind knowing that your bike is pretty well protected for a short amount of time?

I will go through spokes and rear triangle frame + post if I have space, or go with rim (inside rear triangle) + post if I don't have space. I normally use a cable lock (keyed) to lock the front wheel and frame to the post if I'm using a quick release. If I'm riding a solid axle hub, I generally don't worry too much about the wheels. There are plenty of bikes around me in MPLS with vulnerable quick-release wheels.

I read your post, but not any that followed, so I may be repeating, but I have experience with both locks.

With the Evo Mini you won't be able to lock both the seatpost + your rear tire. You would be left locking the frame only, or using the Sheldon Brown method (look it up). If you secure the frame only, you could get locking skewers for your wheels, or use the cable, as you said.

The STD will enable you to lock pretty much whatever you want. It's a great lock, and it's 8" shackle is quite accommodating. But it's heavy. I rarely use it simply because of the weight.

It seems to me that neither of these locks are ideal for you. Have you checked out Medium, or 7" locks? That is- a lock with the same width as a mini, but instead of 5" long, it's 7" long. Kryptonite makes two. The Series 2 (grey bar), and the Evolution (orange bar). The Evolution 7" lock is currently only avail as a package deal with a cable, but the Series 2 can be purchased on its own. Both of these locks aren't much heavier than the Evo Mini & they offer more versatility.

Check out Onguard too. They are cheaper in price, but not in quality (although people have their preferences). They make the Bulldog Medium, which is the same premise. Onguard's dimensions are slightly larger than Kryptonite, which, for my bike, makes all the difference.

Good luck.

Does anybody have these?


http://www.performancebike.com/bikes...ckdown+skewers

Do they pretty much do the job without having to cable down your wheels everytime

Also I heard that that skewers do not work on fixed gear rear wheels....is that true?

No problem. Sorry for the late reply. I've been traveling, and I finally have both locks in one place so I can weigh them. Both of these locks have very good security. If someone can get through one of these, then they have the tools to get through a NY lock in only a few more seconds.

The Evo-Mini (5" version) weighs 890g. The Evo mini-9 weighs 1,100g. The difference is less than I thought, only 210g. The 7" version would probably weigh about 1,000g, and the little bit of extra length over the 5" lock would make an ideal size.

The weights on Kryptonite's site must include the bracket and keys; they seem a little fat.

This has been my experience too. I have a Bulldog Mini, a Brute, and the Kryptonite Series 2 (Mine is the 7 inch model. I don't know if they all are.).

-The Bulldog mini is nice, but less versatile. I keep it on my beater 'around town' mountain bike, and use it often. It works well in that capacity, and holds the bike up against whatever it will fit around, as there is never much empty space.
-The Brute is enormous, intimidating, and lives in my garage. I dropped it once, so now I stay at least 5 feet away, as I fear retaliation.
-The Krypto Series 2 stays on the rack of my Kona Jake, which serves as one of my two road bikes. I've not yet wished it to be bigger, and it's plenty small enough. As a matter of fact, I'd be surprised if it weighs more than the Bulldog Mini. (My other road bike doesn't have a rack, and so far has never been anywhere that would require it to be locked.)

Any of them will work with the proper locking strategy. I prefer the medium size locks for their versatility/size combo.