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Old 08-09-12 | 05:45 PM
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Old 08-09-12 | 07:37 PM
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Welcome To Bike Forums, Greg!

Repost this in the Bicycle Mechanics Forum...Alright?
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Old 08-09-12 | 08:47 PM
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You may want to 'lock out' the suspension fork to give a stiffer ride. It'll give you a little more speeed and you'll feel the road more.

And yes, by all means roll the handlebars away from from you.

1)Loosen the pivot point on the stem and flatten the adjustable portion 'til it's parallel w/t ground.
2)Then loosen the handlebar and 'roll' it forward slightly...not too far or you'll have to re-adjust your shifters and brake levers...a whole 'nother kettle o' fish.
3)Then go to your saddle and loosen the rail grip bolts. Slide your saddle back about an inch. Make sure the saddle remains flat. If the saddle is angled down after sliding it back loosen the tilt mechanism and move the saddle until it's flat. Make sure there's enough height from the top of the saddle to the bottom of your crank arm circle so that when you're sitting on the saddle and the crank's all the way down you've got a slight bend in your knee. If when pedaling you have to 'rock' back and forth the saddle's too high. Lower it until the rocking motion stops.

Your problem looks like the bike may be a little too small for you. So, I'm trying to make suggestions based on what I see in the pics and what you stated in your text. At somepoint you may want to get a longer stem and a different saddle. The pictured saddle is designed for 2 mile, relaxed weekend rides on the MUP not 12 mi rt daily commuting. 240+ miles per month isn't chump change mileage. You're pushing 3,000 miles per year just in commutation miles. Add in whatever you do on the weekends and suddenly one finds themselves understanding why some cyclists can seem a bit snobby about their gear.

Btw, welcome to BF and the wonderful world of commuting! Take everybody's advice w/a grain of salt, realize opinions and depth of experience vary quite a bit, but everybody's at least helpful

PS: Your taillight looks like a Cygolit Hotshot. You may want to make it a perpendicular as possible to maximize it's effect.

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Old 08-10-12 | 01:57 PM
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Thanks, it was suggested that I move this to the Mechanics forum which I did, it appears I did it just as you were posting your response!!

I received advice that parallels yours.....here's what I did:
"I lowered the stem as you directed with the underside bolt. Then remembered the rest of the story.....this is a 17.5 bike and is as big as I could use. Not too big, but is the limit for my size. The seat was too high when I got it so I lowered it 2". But, didn't do anything to the bars. I dropped the bars into the fork tube, headset or where ever it goes via the 6mm allen in the top. I threw the wrench in my pocket and went off adjusting down the road until it all felt alright with me. Nothing is against the "stop", meaning I have a few clicks or space left in the adjustments and all is well."

Cool, the seat..........oops, er saddle, has adjustments to look at. I was thinking is' alright, but could be a bit better. I'll head out and work with them. It's stock for the 7200 and I would recommend any comfort upgrades within a reasonable price range for a $200 bike!!!!


I am brand new to this and a lot of things seem to cost a lot. I understand that and have don't have the first problem with it. It's just not my "passion" yet.

Hell, I have harmonicas that cost more than I paid for this bike, so I know that I am at the cheap end.
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Old 08-10-12 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by nashcommguy
You may want to 'lock out' the suspension fork to give a stiffer ride. It'll give you a little more speeed and you'll feel the road more.

And yes, by all means roll the handlebars away from from you.

1)Loosen the pivot point on the stem and flatten the adjustable portion 'til it's parallel w/t ground.
2)Then loosen the handlebar and 'roll' it forward slightly...not too far or you'll have to re-adjust your shifters and brake levers...a whole 'nother kettle o' fish.
3)Then go to your saddle and loosen the rail grip bolts. Slide your saddle back about an inch. Make sure the saddle remains flat. If the saddle is angled down after sliding it back loosen the tilt mechanism and move the saddle until it's flat. Make sure there's enough height from the top of the saddle to the bottom of your crank arm circle so that when you're sitting on the saddle and the crank's all the way down you've got a slight bend in your knee. If when pedaling you have to 'rock' back and forth the saddle's too high. Lower it until the rocking motion stops.

Your problem looks like the bike may be a little too small for you. So, I'm trying to make suggestions based on what I see in the pics and what you stated in your text. At somepoint you may want to get a longer stem and a different saddle. The pictured saddle is designed for 2 mile, relaxed weekend rides on the MUP not 12 mi rt daily commuting. 240+ miles per month isn't chump change mileage. You're pushing 3,000 miles per year just in commutation miles. Add in whatever you do on the weekends and suddenly one finds themselves understanding why some cyclists can seem a bit snobby about their gear.

Btw, welcome to BF and the wonderful world of commuting! Take everybody's advice w/a grain of salt, realize opinions and depth of experience vary quite a bit, but everybody's at least helpful

PS: Your taillight looks like a Cygolit Hotshot. You may want to make it a perpendicular as possible to maximize it's effect.
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Thanks, it was suggested that I move this to the Mechanics forum which I did, it appears I did it just as you were posting your response!!

I received advice that parallels yours.....here's what I did:
"I lowered the stem as you directed with the underside bolt. Then remembered the rest of the story.....this is a 17.5 bike and is as big as I could use. Not too big, but is the limit for my size. The seat was too high when I got it so I lowered it 2". But, didn't do anything to the bars. I dropped the bars into the fork tube, headset or where ever it goes via the 6mm allen in the top. I threw the wrench in my pocket and went off adjusting down the road until it all felt alright with me. Nothing is against the "stop", meaning I have a few clicks or space left in the adjustments and all is well."

Cool, the seat..........oops, er saddle, has adjustments to look at. I was thinking is' alright, but could be a bit better. I'll head out and work with them. It's stock for the 7200 and I would recommend any comfort upgrades within a reasonable price range for a $200 bike!!!!


I am brand new to this and a lot of things seem to cost a lot. I understand that and have don't have the first problem with it. It's just not my "passion" yet.

Hell, I have harmonicas that cost more than I paid for this bike, so I know that I am at the cheap end.
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Nice job, Nash!

Bet ya could do this kinda stuff in your sleep...

I kept second guessing myself, you just went straight for it!
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Old 08-10-12 | 07:01 PM
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Thanks, guys.

I went out with the intent to get the saddle to my liking, same allen as the bar stuff.......too cool. No big deal, just a few stops and a bump here and a bump there, it feels as even if I knew what I was doing that I would like it.

To avoid any possible commercial infringements I had tried to send a PM. It seems that I am quite aways in my "Post Count" to be able to do so. No problem, here is what I was going to ask a helpful member---for all to see...........nothing bad.


I'm a 2 day bike owner and absolutely ignorant to what one with experience might take for granted. Not that I'm an idiot, I know a lot about other things, it's just some neat new stuff to learn!!!

Dang the seat does move back!!! It's as comfortable as I can imagine right now, on my little 2-3-4 mile adjustment runs.

Two questions, if I may:
1. How about this for a new saddle:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/BICYCLE-COMF...item5ae3233db9
$35 bucks I can do.

2: Do you have an online dealer you can recommend? I live in the sticks and the trip to a bike shop would cost more than the gas for most small items. I use Sweetwater Music for guitar crap because of the super service.........not always the cheapest but the have what I need and everything is always right. Is there a "Sweetwater" of the bike world?

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Old 08-11-12 | 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by gregjones
Thanks, guys.

I went out with the intent to get the saddle to my liking, same allen as the bar stuff.......too cool. No big deal, just a few stops and a bump here and a bump there, it feels as even if I knew what I was doing that I would like it.

To avoid any possible commercial infringements I had tried to send a PM. It seems that I am quite aways in my "Post Count" to be able to do so. No problem, here is what I was going to ask a helpful member---for all to see...........nothing bad.


I'm a 2 day bike owner and absolutely ignorant to what one with experience might take for granted. Not that I'm an idiot, I know a lot about other things, it's just some neat new stuff to learn!!!

Dang the seat does move back!!! It's as comfortable as I can imagine right now, on my little 2-3-4 mile adjustment runs.

Two questions, if I may:
1. How about this for a new saddle:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/BICYCLE-COMF...item5ae3233db9
$35 bucks I can do.

2: Do you have an online dealer you can recommend? I live in the sticks and the trip to a bike shop would cost more than the gas for most small items. I use Sweetwater Music for guitar crap because of the super service.........not always the cheapest but the have what I need and everything is always right. Is there a "Sweetwater" of the bike world?

Thanks,
Greg
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Hey there, Greg!

Yes! We've got the following:

1) www.nashbar.com

2) www.performancebike.com

3) www.universalcycles.com

4) www.dickssportinggoods.com

5) www.bikesdirect.com

6) www.jensonusa.com

7) www.bikeisland.com

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Old 08-11-12 | 10:31 AM
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Old 08-11-12 | 11:27 AM
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Nice job, Nash!

Bet ya could do this kinda stuff in your sleep...

I kept second guessing myself, you just went straight for it!
Thanks, Slim! One gets so used to disagreements, snarkiness and or nit-picking on BF that when someone actually gives out a compliment it's quite beyond my BF experience.
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Old 08-11-12 | 11:46 AM
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Thanks, guys.

I went out with the intent to get the saddle to my liking, same allen as the bar stuff.......too cool. No big deal, just a few stops and a bump here and a bump there, it feels as even if I knew what I was doing that I would like it.

To avoid any possible commercial infringements I had tried to send a PM. It seems that I am quite aways in my "Post Count" to be able to do so. No problem, here is what I was going to ask a helpful member---for all to see...........nothing bad.


I'm a 2 day bike owner and absolutely ignorant to what one with experience might take for granted. Not that I'm an idiot, I know a lot about other things, it's just some neat new stuff to learn!!!

Dang the seat does move back!!! It's as comfortable as I can imagine right now, on my little 2-3-4 mile adjustment runs.

Two questions, if I may:
1. How about this for a new saddle:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/BICYCLE-COMF...item5ae3233db9
$35 bucks I can do.

2: Do you have an online dealer you can recommend? I live in the sticks and the trip to a bike shop would cost more than the gas for most small items. I use Sweetwater Music for guitar crap because of the super service.........not always the cheapest but the have what I need and everything is always right. Is there a "Sweetwater" of the bike world?

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The seat...errr saddle looks good. The next logical step in comfort. It's got good narrowness(no thigh chafing) and length(can get back on one's pelvic 'sit bones') and a cutout to take pressure off the perineum...very important. 'Commuter Approved'

Thank you for allowing us to help you out. It's always gratifying when one's experience can be used to contribute to a newbie's commitment to cycle-commute. Your future self will thank you. Keep going and don't be afraid to PM. I'm sure Slim would echo the sentiment.

Btw, to Slim's list I would add https://www.bikeisland.com free shipping all the time, regardless of the size of the order. They've got some really nice Planet Bike fenders for 34.00 you may want to invest in.

PS: I'm a bit of a mandowhacker myself and we live out in the sticks. I don't have any 200.00 harps, but I've got some Golden Melodys that set me back a bit.
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Old 08-12-12 | 11:24 AM
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OK.......I checked out the list of suppliers. This past Friday marked the third month that I have been out of work; that should give you an idea of my budget.

Nashbar had almost 500 items on their closeout page. I decided on safety stuff first: a helmet, a rack and a cheap headlight that flashes.

Everything else is on the wish list until PayPal releases funds from eBay sales. and a paycheck.

I do have two weeks until I start work so I hope to get a bit of experience in before then. Right now my rides are actually discovery runs. I learn several important lessons with every...don't know bike lingo but it would be a "stroll" were I walking.

Yesterday I learned that biking has quite a bit in common with road racing motorcycles, other than two wheels. "You never know just how fast you can go---until you fall off."
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Gregjones says:

Yesterday I learned that biking has quite a bit in common with road racing motorcycles, other than two wheels. "You never know just how fast you can go---until you fall off".
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It's been a bit over a month. Everything is going well. I got a rack from Nashbar that didn't fit....they exchanged it and paid the freight. Super service!!!

I did get the eBay saddle. It came in today. I installed it and took off down the road. It felt like the nose was a bit high, my sit bones weren't right on the pads.. I lowered it two clicks and felt like I was sliding forward on it. One click back up and it feels alright.

I really don't know about the proper setting, is the "if it feels right, it's right" theory alright to go by??
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It's been a bit over a month. Everything is going well. I got a rack from Nashbar that didn't fit....they exchanged it and paid the freight. Super service!!!

I did get the eBay saddle. It came in today. I installed it and took off down the road. It felt like the nose was a bit high, my sit bones weren't right on the pads.. I lowered it two clicks and felt like I was sliding forward on it. One click back up and it feels alright.

I really don't know about the proper setting, is the "if it feels right, it's right" theory alright to go by??
My advice is to get a carpenter's level. Set it from nose to tail and adjust it dead level. Ride it. If you feel like you're sliding, adjust it half a bubble up or down and see how that feels.
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Thanks, I have levels all over the place. I'll give it a try in the morning.
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To the OP: nice roll top desk!
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Thanks for the comment on the desk.

caloso.........
I got a level out this morning. I had the nose of the saddle 1 1/2 inch low! It was either a touch high on one click or a touch low on the next adjustment....I left it one click low of level (3/8"). It felt weird for the first several miles then I began to like it. Now, it actually feels more "right" than what I thought felt "right" yesterday. Thanks.

I listed the factory saddle on eBarf and actually have 13 page views with 2 people adding it to their "watch list". It might offset the cost of the upgrade.

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Yep. It's hard to do by eye. Most saddles have a bit of a dip in them. Keep riding and see how it feels in a week. As I get older my knees and hips get more sensitive to tiny changes so if I'm adjusting a saddle it's up or down by just a couple mm.
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