Car driver tells me flashing headlight is too distracting
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Don't be too sure. See post #158 the "Mission Accomplished" fellow https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...1#post14942304
His mission apparently IS to piss off as many people as possible all in the name of "being noticed". I am sure he is quite successful at that as well as being a fine catalyst for cyclist hate among those he stimulates with his offensive lighting.
His mission apparently IS to piss off as many people as possible all in the name of "being noticed". I am sure he is quite successful at that as well as being a fine catalyst for cyclist hate among those he stimulates with his offensive lighting.
OP here.
Great discussion here. There seems to be two schools of thought, blinking and solid but I think we can all agree that the idea is to be visible. I will angle my light down, I don't want to be bothersome to motorists but I also do not want to become less visible on the road.
For those few who thought I was being snarky or sarcastic, I would like to thank you for reading way too far into the 2 sentences I wrote about an encounter you know nothing about and automatically assumed I cannot have a polite conversation with someone while still having a contrary viewpoint.
Great discussion here. There seems to be two schools of thought, blinking and solid but I think we can all agree that the idea is to be visible. I will angle my light down, I don't want to be bothersome to motorists but I also do not want to become less visible on the road.
For those few who thought I was being snarky or sarcastic, I would like to thank you for reading way too far into the 2 sentences I wrote about an encounter you know nothing about and automatically assumed I cannot have a polite conversation with someone while still having a contrary viewpoint.
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My mission is to expand my ability to irritate into my cycling. After that, I am working on being an irritating fisherman.....
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Oh... and don't forget to blast your Petzel headlamp in my face the entire time.
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I just take heavy weight fishing line dip it in glue then in fine glass shards made from smashed glass beads. I tie a small weight like a golf ball to one end and throw it across the line of fishermen. I can usually cut several lines from other people with one toss
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I really can't wait for self-driving cars... a robot will never door you, and they are terrible at getting drunk.
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Seems you are the character that can't understand what you read. Post #158 was NOT from the OP, nor from Narhay but some other "bright bulb" poster reporting about his mission accomplished.
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Informative thread.
I'm of the "Need to see" ilk more than "to be seen"...but I think being visible is a desired benefit of running lights too. On both of the bikes I commute on, I too run a PBSF on the rear, and I have 2, PB 1 watt blaze lights on the front. I also have 2 little "Spock" lamps that are facing to the right and the left. Hopefully so I can bee seen a little better from the sides.
I'm of the "Need to see" ilk more than "to be seen"...but I think being visible is a desired benefit of running lights too. On both of the bikes I commute on, I too run a PBSF on the rear, and I have 2, PB 1 watt blaze lights on the front. I also have 2 little "Spock" lamps that are facing to the right and the left. Hopefully so I can bee seen a little better from the sides.
Now those little Blaze lights may not be as bright and fancy as some of the aforementioned lights, but they are bright, cheap, lightweight, and you don't have to worry about where to position them. You can put them just about anywhere with a little imagination. Not only that, but they are easy to move from 1 bike to another, or to remove completely.
I intentionally aim one of them (set to flash) directly ahead of me. Yep. That's right, I set them to aim into the eyes of oncoming traffic. Not to be obnoxious...to be noticed. Judging by the reflection I can see the light creates on street signs and driveway reflectors in front of me, I can say with confidence that it does what I need it to do for me. The other one I aim downward maybe 5-10 feet in front of me. This is so I can see what's coming in front of me. Has worked wonderfully for me in both urban and rural settings. These lights are bright, but not blinding.
Now days, it seems like everyone in cars are running these ultra bright LED headlights. These lights are so bright you would think that they have their high-beams on. Talk about annoying...those darn things are blinding, especially in the rain. I'm wondering how long it will be before that State of Georgia starts limiting the intensity of headlights on cars. The other example would be all the newer cars that have the additional driving lights. In concert with already bright headlights, now that's obnoxious. When it rains, it may make things easier to see, but it blinds oncoming traffic.
Yes it is, even if we have at least one member who has nothing but negative comments to make.
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I run a steady light on the bars and and the helmet, blinking light on the bars, day and night. Nice combo. When i am driving my car, I notice the blinky lights on the bikes much farther away. Bikers need to have more side lighting, I like wheel lights, really visible at night.
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What I think would really be cool would be if these light manufacturers could add side directional windows where the light could shine to the sides of the rider as well.
I think one of the problems we face as cyclists is not being seen from the sides. I have reflective tape on my bikes, but I don't think that's really enough. I have seen some options available...but I don't know...
I think one of the problems we face as cyclists is not being seen from the sides. I have reflective tape on my bikes, but I don't think that's really enough. I have seen some options available...but I don't know...
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Princeton tec has side lights, I don't really care for them. I can remember one instance where I thought side lighting would be nice, but I also thought that it would be nice if motorists would come to a complete stop at stop signs. That person got to stare at my helmet light, just like everyone else that looks like they are going to run me down because they think they are smarter and better looking than the people that are required to stop for stop signs.
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When motorists stop running stop signs/lights, speeding, and start to use their turn signals, as well as NOT driving distracted then and only then will they have earned the right to complain about the behavior of cyclists.
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In all due respect again, I don't recall ANYBODY stating that they aim their lights at eye level. In fact, almost all the posts to the letter who state they have bright lights up front, also state that they aimed them DOWNWARD. What is your problem with trying to MAKE like everybody aims lights upward in drivers eyes?? I mean no harm or disrespect, just asking an honest question.
Also, the line about cyclist trying to draw attention to themselves, that is a good thing, we want everybody to know we are on the road with them, and we want them to share the road. Again, what is the problem with that??
Also, the line about cyclist trying to draw attention to themselves, that is a good thing, we want everybody to know we are on the road with them, and we want them to share the road. Again, what is the problem with that??
And like you I've noticed that most of those posting here have made it a point to state that they aim their lights at the road not at eye level. But as has been pointed out that given how "dim" a bikes light(s) is/are in comparison to those found on a car how are bike lights really going to cause a motorist any discomfort?
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I run my tail light (PDW Danger Zone) flashing 100% of the time. The headlight (NiteRider MiNewt 500 wireless) is only flashing during the day. Solid @ night. I had it flashing one early morning, and went under a freeway overpass where the ceiling was only inches from my head. The rapid flashing light actually made me feel like I was losing my balance, and affected my vision for a short time. It was a very unnerving feeling. Hopefully I've never caused any epileptic seizure episodes.
I've had only one comment from a driver regarding my lights. Last week on my commute home, a woman driving the opposite direction as me rolled her window down, smiled and said "Nice light!".
I've had only one comment from a driver regarding my lights. Last week on my commute home, a woman driving the opposite direction as me rolled her window down, smiled and said "Nice light!".
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This morning during my commute in the pitch dark, there was another cyclist on the other side of the road, coming toward me with a rapidly flashing headlight as bright as mine (Niterider MiNewt 500). I didn't have a seizure. I didn't go blind. I wasn't distracted. And I could clearly see exactly where he was. I don't see how this would have been much different had I been driving a vehicle.
The light simply got my attention, and lit up the road in front of him. Mission Accomplished.
My light was flashing, too. We exchanged waves as we passed each other.
The light simply got my attention, and lit up the road in front of him. Mission Accomplished.
My light was flashing, too. We exchanged waves as we passed each other.
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My theory is that he's a side-walk-riding ninja salmon, and he believes everyone else should be, too.
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You've asked him some very good questions. I have to wonder not only what his overall problem is, but what is so wrong with cyclists doing everything within their power/budget to make themselves as visible as possible to other road users?
And like you I've noticed that most of those posting here have made it a point to state that they aim their lights at the road not at eye level. But as has been pointed out that given how "dim" a bikes light(s) is/are in comparison to those found on a car how are bike lights really going to cause a motorist any discomfort?
And like you I've noticed that most of those posting here have made it a point to state that they aim their lights at the road not at eye level. But as has been pointed out that given how "dim" a bikes light(s) is/are in comparison to those found on a car how are bike lights really going to cause a motorist any discomfort?
All good points!!
Also, are you familiar with the term "stuffed shirt"..
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This morning during my commute in the pitch dark, there was another cyclist on the other side of the road, coming toward me with a rapidly flashing headlight as bright as mine (Niterider MiNewt 500). I didn't have a seizure. I didn't go blind. I wasn't distracted. And I could clearly see exactly where he was. I don't see how this would have been much different had I been driving a vehicle.
The light simply got my attention, and lit up the road in front of him. Mission Accomplished.
My light was flashing, too. We exchanged waves as we passed each other.
The light simply got my attention, and lit up the road in front of him. Mission Accomplished.
My light was flashing, too. We exchanged waves as we passed each other.
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Thank you, yes I am, and I think that it applies. It's his overall attitude that has earned him a place in my bit bucket i.e. ignore list.
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With the inclusion of the lastest spam, this thread has surpassed it's usefulness. The original point of the thread is long ago lost.....
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Better alive by being well lit up than dead! The more powerful lights the merrier.
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Actually, I went back and read, I did state that I aim my lights into the eyes of oncoming traffic...
Let me re-state that, I aim 1 of them dead ahead. Not really with the intention of being annoying. Just an attention getter. That being said, these lights are not bright enough to endanger or annoy. Especially when you consider the luminosity of today's headlights on most automobiles.
Let me re-state that, I aim 1 of them dead ahead. Not really with the intention of being annoying. Just an attention getter. That being said, these lights are not bright enough to endanger or annoy. Especially when you consider the luminosity of today's headlights on most automobiles.