Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Commuting
Reload this Page >

Car driver tells me flashing headlight is too distracting

Search
Notices
Commuting Bicycle commuting is easier than you think, before you know it, you'll be hooked. Learn the tips, hints, equipment, safety requirements for safely riding your bike to work.

Car driver tells me flashing headlight is too distracting

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-15-12, 06:53 AM
  #201  
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: England / CPH
Posts: 8,543

Bikes: 2010 Cube Acid / 2013 Mango FGSS

Mentioned: 42 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1053 Post(s)
Liked 41 Times in 36 Posts
Originally Posted by cplager

As far as Europe goes, it looks like some of the laws don't say that flashing lights are illegal, but that a solid light is needed. Meaning having two headlights, one flashing, one solid looks to be legal in some of these cases.
Don't worry, we'll convert all of the EU to our regulations. First, our fiscal regulations. Next, our bicycle lighting regulations.

<Diabolical laughter>
acidfast7 is offline  
Old 11-15-12, 08:04 AM
  #202  
Certified Bike Brat
 
Burton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Montreal, Quebec
Posts: 4,251
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
Don't be too sure. See post #158 the "Mission Accomplished" fellow https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...1#post14942304

His mission apparently IS to piss off as many people as possible all in the name of "being noticed". I am sure he is quite successful at that as well as being a fine catalyst for cyclist hate among those he stimulates with his offensive lighting.
The kittykat seems to have vision problems and only sees what he wants to see. That same poster also posted this:
Originally Posted by Narhay
OP here.

Great discussion here. There seems to be two schools of thought, blinking and solid but I think we can all agree that the idea is to be visible. I will angle my light down, I don't want to be bothersome to motorists but I also do not want to become less visible on the road.

For those few who thought I was being snarky or sarcastic, I would like to thank you for reading way too far into the 2 sentences I wrote about an encounter you know nothing about and automatically assumed I cannot have a polite conversation with someone while still having a contrary viewpoint.
Burton is offline  
Old 11-15-12, 08:25 AM
  #203  
Senior Member
 
david58's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Los Alamos, NM
Posts: 1,846

Bikes: Fuji Cross Comp, BMC SR02, Surly Krampas

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
My mission is to expand my ability to irritate into my cycling. After that, I am working on being an irritating fisherman.....
david58 is offline  
Old 11-15-12, 08:32 AM
  #204  
Senior Member
 
MNBikeguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 1,834

Bikes: 05 Trek 5200, 07 Trek 520, 99 GT Karakoram, 08 Surly 1X1

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by david58
My mission is to expand my ability to irritate into my cycling. After that, I am working on being an irritating fisherman.....
When you see me catch a fish, run your boat up next to mine at full throttle and drop your anchor practically in my boat.
Oh... and don't forget to blast your Petzel headlamp in my face the entire time.
MNBikeguy is offline  
Old 11-15-12, 08:45 AM
  #205  
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: England / CPH
Posts: 8,543

Bikes: 2010 Cube Acid / 2013 Mango FGSS

Mentioned: 42 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1053 Post(s)
Liked 41 Times in 36 Posts
Originally Posted by MNBikeguy
When you see me catch a fish, run your boat up next to mine at full throttle and drop your anchor practically in my boat.
Oh... and don't forget to blast your Petzel headlamp in my face the entire time.
I just take heavy weight fishing line dip it in glue then in fine glass shards made from smashed glass beads. I tie a small weight like a golf ball to one end and throw it across the line of fishermen. I can usually cut several lines from other people with one toss
acidfast7 is offline  
Old 11-15-12, 09:22 AM
  #206  
Idealistic Troublemaker
 
bjorke's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: SF Bay Area + Surrounding Planet
Posts: 612

Bikes: Friday, Brompton, Soma, Fuji, Haro, No_Name...

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Commodus
Well I do that ever day, and I stick to a solid front head light. I dunno, it's been a few years and I'm still alive.

Mind you it's a pretty bright light and I do have a blinky on the rear.
In other words, exactly like my setup.

I really can't wait for self-driving cars... a robot will never door you, and they are terrible at getting drunk.
bjorke is offline  
Old 11-15-12, 09:47 AM
  #207  
Been Around Awhile
 
I-Like-To-Bike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Burlington Iowa
Posts: 29,974

Bikes: Vaterland and Ragazzi

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked 1,536 Times in 1,045 Posts
Originally Posted by Burton
The kittykat seems to have vision problems and only sees what he wants to see. That same poster also posted this:
Seems you are the character that can't understand what you read. Post #158 was NOT from the OP, nor from Narhay but some other "bright bulb" poster reporting about his mission accomplished.
I-Like-To-Bike is offline  
Old 11-15-12, 10:26 AM
  #208  
Senior Member
 
Digital_Cowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Tampa/St. Pete, Florida
Posts: 9,352

Bikes: Specialized Hardrock Mountain (Stolen); Giant Seek 2 (Stolen); Diamondback Ascent mid 1980 - 1997

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 62 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by silmarillion
Informative thread.

I'm of the "Need to see" ilk more than "to be seen"...but I think being visible is a desired benefit of running lights too. On both of the bikes I commute on, I too run a PBSF on the rear, and I have 2, PB 1 watt blaze lights on the front. I also have 2 little "Spock" lamps that are facing to the right and the left. Hopefully so I can bee seen a little better from the sides.
One should be trying to achieve both objectives, i.e. to have a light(s) to see what is in the road ahead of them, as well as having one or more lights so that motorists will see them. I have seen too many cyclists out on the road who while they are at the very least are running head and taillights, they are VERY dim and not very visible. Making them look as if they are a "ninja."

Originally Posted by silmarillion
Now those little Blaze lights may not be as bright and fancy as some of the aforementioned lights, but they are bright, cheap, lightweight, and you don't have to worry about where to position them. You can put them just about anywhere with a little imagination. Not only that, but they are easy to move from 1 bike to another, or to remove completely.
I think portability is also something that one should consider, especially when one has several bikes. One doesn't want to have to spend "hours on end" to move the light(s) from one bike to the next.

Originally Posted by silmarillion
I intentionally aim one of them (set to flash) directly ahead of me. Yep. That's right, I set them to aim into the eyes of oncoming traffic. Not to be obnoxious...to be noticed. Judging by the reflection I can see the light creates on street signs and driveway reflectors in front of me, I can say with confidence that it does what I need it to do for me. The other one I aim downward maybe 5-10 feet in front of me. This is so I can see what's coming in front of me. Has worked wonderfully for me in both urban and rural settings. These lights are bright, but not blinding.
I've noticed my taillights flashing in the distance in street signs "long" after I've headed down the road. I can also usually see my headlights well in street signs well off in the distance before I actually gets too close to the sign(s).

Originally Posted by silmarillion
Now days, it seems like everyone in cars are running these ultra bright LED headlights. These lights are so bright you would think that they have their high-beams on. Talk about annoying...those darn things are blinding, especially in the rain. I'm wondering how long it will be before that State of Georgia starts limiting the intensity of headlights on cars. The other example would be all the newer cars that have the additional driving lights. In concert with already bright headlights, now that's obnoxious. When it rains, it may make things easier to see, but it blinds oncoming traffic.
Agreed, it seems as if every car that is approaching me have super bright headlights. Add to that that it appears that a number of cars are running lights that have different color temperatures as I have seen headlights in both the red and blue ends of the color spectrum.

Originally Posted by silmarillion
That being said, I'm not too worried about my little blaze lights being too bright, or improperly positioned, or at risk of causing someone to have a seizure. If you are at such a high risk of having a seizure, you probably shouldn't be driving IMHO.
Agreed, motorists are already doing a hell of a lot more things that endanger other road users lives. I also agree with you that if a person is at such a high risk of having a seizure then they probably shouldn't be driving a car on the pubic roads.

Originally Posted by silmarillion
One other thing I have noticed, and I would guess that others here have too is... If I'm riding on an unlit road, or dimly lit at that, if I don't have a car coming from behind me, it never fails that an oncoming car will hit their high-beams in my face.
Yes, for those who not just running super bright headlights, but are running with their highs on, it seems like they've forgotten that they're suppose to dim them when they see traffic coming from the opposite direction as well as dimming them when they are coming up from behind someone.

Originally Posted by silmarillion
For this purpose, I wear a helmet with a visor. That way I can look slightly downward and block the lights coming at me.
I can do the same thing with my mirror.

Originally Posted by silmarillion
This thread is full of great ideas, but ultimately it's about what works for you in the particular setting you are riding in.
Yes it is, even if we have at least one member who has nothing but negative comments to make.
Digital_Cowboy is offline  
Old 11-15-12, 10:28 AM
  #209  
Senior Member
 
Digital_Cowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Tampa/St. Pete, Florida
Posts: 9,352

Bikes: Specialized Hardrock Mountain (Stolen); Giant Seek 2 (Stolen); Diamondback Ascent mid 1980 - 1997

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 62 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by Leebo
I run a steady light on the bars and and the helmet, blinking light on the bars, day and night. Nice combo. When i am driving my car, I notice the blinky lights on the bikes much farther away. Bikers need to have more side lighting, I like wheel lights, really visible at night.
I agree, I am able to notice bikes in the distance much easier when they have at least one blinky on.
Digital_Cowboy is offline  
Old 11-15-12, 10:35 AM
  #210  
Senior Member
 
Digital_Cowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Tampa/St. Pete, Florida
Posts: 9,352

Bikes: Specialized Hardrock Mountain (Stolen); Giant Seek 2 (Stolen); Diamondback Ascent mid 1980 - 1997

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 62 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by silmarillion
What I think would really be cool would be if these light manufacturers could add side directional windows where the light could shine to the sides of the rider as well.

I think one of the problems we face as cyclists is not being seen from the sides. I have reflective tape on my bikes, but I don't think that's really enough. I have seen some options available...but I don't know...
Light and Motion makes several lights that have "side windows" on them. The Urban line as well as the Viz 180/360 lights have "side windows." Another nice thing with the Light and Motion lights is that they have a voltage regulator built into them. So that as the battery "dies" the light output remains constant.
Digital_Cowboy is offline  
Old 11-15-12, 10:38 AM
  #211  
Senior Member
 
Digital_Cowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Tampa/St. Pete, Florida
Posts: 9,352

Bikes: Specialized Hardrock Mountain (Stolen); Giant Seek 2 (Stolen); Diamondback Ascent mid 1980 - 1997

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 62 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by unterhausen
Princeton tec has side lights, I don't really care for them. I can remember one instance where I thought side lighting would be nice, but I also thought that it would be nice if motorists would come to a complete stop at stop signs. That person got to stare at my helmet light, just like everyone else that looks like they are going to run me down because they think they are smarter and better looking than the people that are required to stop for stop signs.
I agree with that 110%, it would be nice if when motorists (and cyclists) are approaching a stop signs that they actually come to a full stop, instead of just flying/rolling through it. It is the law isn't it?!?
Digital_Cowboy is offline  
Old 11-15-12, 10:40 AM
  #212  
Senior Member
 
Digital_Cowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Tampa/St. Pete, Florida
Posts: 9,352

Bikes: Specialized Hardrock Mountain (Stolen); Giant Seek 2 (Stolen); Diamondback Ascent mid 1980 - 1997

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 62 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by baiskeli
Tell him to go pound sand (politely of course). I had a driver tell me the same (actually, more like yell at me rudely). Ironically, just 30 seconds before, she had almost run me off the road because she was to busy speaking on her cell phone.
When motorists stop running stop signs/lights, speeding, and start to use their turn signals, as well as NOT driving distracted then and only then will they have earned the right to complain about the behavior of cyclists.
Digital_Cowboy is offline  
Old 11-15-12, 10:47 AM
  #213  
Senior Member
 
Digital_Cowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Tampa/St. Pete, Florida
Posts: 9,352

Bikes: Specialized Hardrock Mountain (Stolen); Giant Seek 2 (Stolen); Diamondback Ascent mid 1980 - 1997

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 62 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by cehowardGS
IMO, and in all due respect, that assumption is way to harsh!!
Sadly, that seems to be his MO , defend motorists and accuse cyclists of being disruptive.
Digital_Cowboy is offline  
Old 11-15-12, 10:53 AM
  #214  
Senior Member
 
Digital_Cowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Tampa/St. Pete, Florida
Posts: 9,352

Bikes: Specialized Hardrock Mountain (Stolen); Giant Seek 2 (Stolen); Diamondback Ascent mid 1980 - 1997

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 62 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by cehowardGS
In all due respect again, I don't recall ANYBODY stating that they aim their lights at eye level. In fact, almost all the posts to the letter who state they have bright lights up front, also state that they aimed them DOWNWARD. What is your problem with trying to MAKE like everybody aims lights upward in drivers eyes?? I mean no harm or disrespect, just asking an honest question.

Also, the line about cyclist trying to draw attention to themselves, that is a good thing, we want everybody to know we are on the road with them, and we want them to share the road. Again, what is the problem with that??
You've asked him some very good questions. I have to wonder not only what his overall problem is, but what is so wrong with cyclists doing everything within their power/budget to make themselves as visible as possible to other road users?

And like you I've noticed that most of those posting here have made it a point to state that they aim their lights at the road not at eye level. But as has been pointed out that given how "dim" a bikes light(s) is/are in comparison to those found on a car how are bike lights really going to cause a motorist any discomfort?
Digital_Cowboy is offline  
Old 11-15-12, 10:59 AM
  #215  
Senior Member
 
Digital_Cowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Tampa/St. Pete, Florida
Posts: 9,352

Bikes: Specialized Hardrock Mountain (Stolen); Giant Seek 2 (Stolen); Diamondback Ascent mid 1980 - 1997

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 62 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by ChrisM2097
I run my tail light (PDW Danger Zone) flashing 100% of the time. The headlight (NiteRider MiNewt 500 wireless) is only flashing during the day. Solid @ night. I had it flashing one early morning, and went under a freeway overpass where the ceiling was only inches from my head. The rapid flashing light actually made me feel like I was losing my balance, and affected my vision for a short time. It was a very unnerving feeling. Hopefully I've never caused any epileptic seizure episodes.

I've had only one comment from a driver regarding my lights. Last week on my commute home, a woman driving the opposite direction as me rolled her window down, smiled and said "Nice light!".
I have received far more compliments then complaints about my lights. So presumably I must be doing something right. The only negative comment came from a woman who was ironically walking NOT driving a car.
Digital_Cowboy is offline  
Old 11-15-12, 12:26 PM
  #216  
Senior Member
 
ChrisM2097's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Milpitas, CA
Posts: 981

Bikes: 2007 Specialized Rockhopper Disc; Trek 7.5 FX

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
This morning during my commute in the pitch dark, there was another cyclist on the other side of the road, coming toward me with a rapidly flashing headlight as bright as mine (Niterider MiNewt 500). I didn't have a seizure. I didn't go blind. I wasn't distracted. And I could clearly see exactly where he was. I don't see how this would have been much different had I been driving a vehicle.

The light simply got my attention, and lit up the road in front of him. Mission Accomplished.

My light was flashing, too. We exchanged waves as we passed each other.
ChrisM2097 is offline  
Old 11-15-12, 12:35 PM
  #217  
Senior Member
 
ChrisM2097's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Milpitas, CA
Posts: 981

Bikes: 2007 Specialized Rockhopper Disc; Trek 7.5 FX

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Digital_Cowboy
I have to wonder not only what his overall problem is, but what is so wrong with cyclists doing everything within their power/budget to make themselves as visible as possible to other road users?
My theory is that he's a side-walk-riding ninja salmon, and he believes everyone else should be, too.
ChrisM2097 is offline  
Old 11-15-12, 01:10 PM
  #218  
Motorcycle RoadRacer
 
cehowardGS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 3,826
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by Digital_Cowboy
You've asked him some very good questions. I have to wonder not only what his overall problem is, but what is so wrong with cyclists doing everything within their power/budget to make themselves as visible as possible to other road users?

And like you I've noticed that most of those posting here have made it a point to state that they aim their lights at the road not at eye level. But as has been pointed out that given how "dim" a bikes light(s) is/are in comparison to those found on a car how are bike lights really going to cause a motorist any discomfort?

All good points!!

Also, are you familiar with the term "stuffed shirt"..
cehowardGS is offline  
Old 11-15-12, 01:11 PM
  #219  
Motorcycle RoadRacer
 
cehowardGS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 3,826
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by ChrisM2097
This morning during my commute in the pitch dark, there was another cyclist on the other side of the road, coming toward me with a rapidly flashing headlight as bright as mine (Niterider MiNewt 500). I didn't have a seizure. I didn't go blind. I wasn't distracted. And I could clearly see exactly where he was. I don't see how this would have been much different had I been driving a vehicle.

The light simply got my attention, and lit up the road in front of him. Mission Accomplished.

My light was flashing, too. We exchanged waves as we passed each other.

1+
cehowardGS is offline  
Old 11-15-12, 01:20 PM
  #220  
Senior Member
 
Digital_Cowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Tampa/St. Pete, Florida
Posts: 9,352

Bikes: Specialized Hardrock Mountain (Stolen); Giant Seek 2 (Stolen); Diamondback Ascent mid 1980 - 1997

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 62 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by ChrisM2097
My theory is that he's a side-walk-riding ninja salmon, and he believes everyone else should be, too.
Sadly, it wouldn't surprise me if that was the case. Although I've been told that he is an experienced rider. So his negativity is a bit surprising.

Originally Posted by cehowardGS
All good points!!

Also, are you familiar with the term "stuffed shirt"..
Thank you, yes I am, and I think that it applies. It's his overall attitude that has earned him a place in my bit bucket i.e. ignore list.
Digital_Cowboy is offline  
Old 11-15-12, 03:57 PM
  #221  
Senior Member
 
MNBikeguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 1,834

Bikes: 05 Trek 5200, 07 Trek 520, 99 GT Karakoram, 08 Surly 1X1

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
With the inclusion of the lastest spam, this thread has surpassed it's usefulness. The original point of the thread is long ago lost.....
MNBikeguy is offline  
Old 11-15-12, 10:33 PM
  #222  
Mmm hm!
 
agent pombero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 1,164
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Better alive by being well lit up than dead! The more powerful lights the merrier.
agent pombero is offline  
Old 11-16-12, 01:31 AM
  #223  
Senior Member
 
silmarillion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 720

Bikes: 2012 Cinelli Mystic Rat, Nashbar CX

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Actually, I went back and read, I did state that I aim my lights into the eyes of oncoming traffic...

Let me re-state that, I aim 1 of them dead ahead. Not really with the intention of being annoying. Just an attention getter. That being said, these lights are not bright enough to endanger or annoy. Especially when you consider the luminosity of today's headlights on most automobiles.
silmarillion is offline  
Old 11-16-12, 08:54 AM
  #224  
Motorcycle RoadRacer
 
cehowardGS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 3,826
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by ChrisM2097
My theory is that he's a side-walk-riding ninja salmon, and he believes everyone else should be, too.
I will second that!!
cehowardGS is offline  
Old 11-16-12, 09:01 AM
  #225  
Motorcycle RoadRacer
 
cehowardGS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 3,826
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by MNBikeguy
With the inclusion of the lastest spam, this thread has surpassed it's
usefulness. The original point of the thread is long ago lost.....
Says who??? The only "spam" I see is your misspelled and bad grammar post!
cehowardGS is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.