Riding In Heavy Traffic At Night
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That ninja is quite possibly someone who forgot their lights, had their lights stolen, or is flat out broke. I personally find cyclists who call out other cyclists to be far more irritating than ninjas.
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Before upgrading lights, I would consider getting an reflective vest. I saw someone wearing one recently and it he was incredibly easy to see. It is hard to imagine getting tail lights bright enough to mix it up in serious traffic and really be noticed. This one looks pretty sweet, no batteries required: Amphipod Full-Visibility Reflective Vest
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I don't think they mean it that way. Most people that comment on others without lights are just a little upset on how little the non-light crowd value their lives. IMO, we all together on this.. All our disdain should be directed at the unresponsible car drivers..
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I'll agree with the OP that driving in the above conditions takes the fun out of commuting, -but- my least favorite situation is early morning heavy traffic (if it's dark, so much the worse), where drivers are half asleep, anxious to get to work and usually texting their family/friends/colleagues. The fear of being rear ended, even with carnival intensity lighting, is always present and I've had quite a few near-hits, especially now with less ambient light due to shorter days.
I am running fairly inexpensive stuff on my rear lights, but my rear system gives me confidence that they do see me.
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I agree. Sometimes drivers show irritation that I'm on the roads, but they always see me - I have a couple of blinkies back there that cost less than $40. Someone hitting you from behind is extremely rare.
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Some people think it sucks to ride in the dark and in traffic and dark with traffic but if you are lit up and have done everything you can to be seen, you can focus on the ride. Does it require paying more attention? Heck yes. But I look at it like it requires a different sent of skills to ride in the dark, with traffic at rush hour. Is it fun? He11 yes.
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I don't know of any vehicles that can hit me from a half mile away. Being visible at 360 degrees inside of 50 yards would be my goal.
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So a cager that forgets to turn on his lights, has one or two not operating, or is too broke to have a car with working lights would be ok, too?
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My half mile example was just showing how visible I am. If I am seen a half mile away, anything closer is a piece of cake. If the choice came between vest and lights, or which is best, the vest wouldn't even be close!!
In addition, in the arena I ride in (cars doing 50mph+)50 yards don't cut it. If they only began see me at the 50yds, then I am considered hit. I am talking about fast traffic..
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Dynohub powered / always-on / steady-light 4 minute function (adheres to German safety regulations since the bike's from there)
Quick flashing mode (this is the attention grabber and the one which probably irritates the drivers more than anything else).
Rear light (blinking) built into the adjustment knob of the helmet (not too bright, but can be easily seen).
..and when touring or on longer trips, I add the following to the pannier:
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I'm running the following units:
Dynohub powered / always-on / steady-light 4 minute function (adheres to German safety regulations since the bike's from there)
Quick flashing mode (this is the attention grabber and the one which probably irritates the drivers more than anything else).
Rear light (blinking) built into the adjustment knob of the helmet (not too bright, but can be easily seen).
..and when touring or on longer trips, I add the following to the pannier:
Dynohub powered / always-on / steady-light 4 minute function (adheres to German safety regulations since the bike's from there)
Quick flashing mode (this is the attention grabber and the one which probably irritates the drivers more than anything else).
Rear light (blinking) built into the adjustment knob of the helmet (not too bright, but can be easily seen).
..and when touring or on longer trips, I add the following to the pannier:
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I bought two Corratec bikes (2nd for a friend) from the online store Chain Reaction Cycles in the UK. Both bikes were shipped via DHL Road Freight and took about a week to reach Athens from Belfast.
Here's the original post for my bike:
https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...50542ee3661649
And here's my bike after I modified it for commuting:
Here's the original post for my bike:
https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...50542ee3661649
And here's my bike after I modified it for commuting:
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I bought two Corratec bikes (2nd for a friend) from the online store Chain Reaction Cycles in the UK. Both bikes were shipped via DHL Road Freight and took about a week to reach Athens from Belfast.
Here's the original post for my bike:
https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...50542ee3661649
And here's my bike after I modified it for commuting:
Here's the original post for my bike:
https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/M...50542ee3661649
And here's my bike after I modified it for commuting:
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There are some good deals on last years models even after $100 shipping to the USA. Some of them might even be in my size, but I'd hate to buy a bike without trying it out (especially since even after reading sizing charts I don't really understand them). I guess I'll stick to my original plan and wait until next summer and buy a bike when I'm in Europe. After all, it won't do me any good in the USA for the couple of weeks I plan on biking in Europe anyway.
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There are some good deals on last years models even after $100 shipping to the USA. Some of them might even be in my size, but I'd hate to buy a bike without trying it out (especially since even after reading sizing charts I don't really understand them). I guess I'll stick to my original plan and wait until next summer and buy a bike when I'm in Europe. After all, it won't do me any good in the USA for the couple of weeks I plan on biking in Europe anyway.
Also, they're really nicely priced with the dynamos/lights/fenders/racks built-in the bike.
Honestly, they're superb value for money.
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I'm running the following units:
Dynohub powered / always-on / steady-light 4 minute function (adheres to German safety regulations since the bike's from there)
Quick flashing mode (this is the attention grabber and the one which probably irritates the drivers more than anything else).
Rear light (blinking) built into the adjustment knob of the helmet (not too bright, but can be easily seen).
..and when touring or on longer trips, I add the following to the pannier:
Dynohub powered / always-on / steady-light 4 minute function (adheres to German safety regulations since the bike's from there)
Quick flashing mode (this is the attention grabber and the one which probably irritates the drivers more than anything else).
Rear light (blinking) built into the adjustment knob of the helmet (not too bright, but can be easily seen).
..and when touring or on longer trips, I add the following to the pannier:
Here is my system..
PBSF Turbo on rear of helmet, Cygolite USB on back of bike, el cheapee blinking rear on leg with 2 blinking reflective strips..Also, an 18650 on my helmet.
On front of the bike, TWO 26650 so call rated at 1600 lums each.. Sometimes I have one of the front lights on blinky. that is 3 strong lights facing forward. Even in heavy night time rush hour traffic, I am noticed and respected, sometimes yelled at too.
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When I came back out they were still there, and we had a nice chat. They got the text that they were waiting for and went inside, and I continued on my way home.
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I have also seen a number of walkers, joggers, dog walkers, etc. that ARE wearing light colored clothing, and using lights. As well as some dog walkers who have leashes that either have reflective material on them or that have lights on them.
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Yea, the price with shipping is good. I think the one I like the best that is available is a just a little small for me (54 cm). The 57cm is probably more my size but isn't in stock. I am 6'1" tall.
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In Manhattan NYC between 4pm and 7:30pm you always get that tense riding all the way home. Each time I get home from that I take a deep breath and congratulate myself for surviving another day.
Re the fellow cyclists without lights: I always think they should be indebted to me because whenever I was riding behind them my headlight lit their rear reflectors to help them visible.
I have a question: Why does bright light from a bike get more respect from drivers? Is it because they thought it was from a car? Or is it just an involuntary reaction to a strong light? If either is the case, then their respect should go away once they found out it's from a bike. But then it can't be because they respect owners of expensive bright lights.
Re the fellow cyclists without lights: I always think they should be indebted to me because whenever I was riding behind them my headlight lit their rear reflectors to help them visible.
I have a question: Why does bright light from a bike get more respect from drivers? Is it because they thought it was from a car? Or is it just an involuntary reaction to a strong light? If either is the case, then their respect should go away once they found out it's from a bike. But then it can't be because they respect owners of expensive bright lights.
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ninja riders put them self and everyone else at risk.
You find cyclist who call out other cyclist irritating, how will you feel after you get hit by a ninja salmon ? I don't call someone out to be an ass i call them out to increase their and my safety.
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In Manhattan NYC between 4pm and 7:30pm you always get that tense riding all the way home. Each time I get home from that I take a deep breath and congratulate myself for surviving another day.
Re the fellow cyclists without lights: I always think they should be indebted to me because whenever I was riding behind them my headlight lit their rear reflectors to help them visible.
I have a question: Why does bright light from a bike get more respect from drivers? Is it because they thought it was from a car? Or is it just an involuntary reaction to a strong light? If either is the case, then their respect should go away once they found out it's from a bike. But then it can't be because they respect owners of expensive bright lights.
Re the fellow cyclists without lights: I always think they should be indebted to me because whenever I was riding behind them my headlight lit their rear reflectors to help them visible.
I have a question: Why does bright light from a bike get more respect from drivers? Is it because they thought it was from a car? Or is it just an involuntary reaction to a strong light? If either is the case, then their respect should go away once they found out it's from a bike. But then it can't be because they respect owners of expensive bright lights.
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Fortunately for me, I had taken the lane so I didn't have to swerve to avoid him, but if I'd been riding in the right side tire track I would have.
Fortunately for me, I had taken the lane so I didn't have to swerve to avoid him, but if I'd been riding in the right side tire track I would have.
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cehoward, where did you get those lights on your bars? I like them.