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Old 11-19-12 | 11:44 AM
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Winter Commuting Bike advice

I have been looking into getting a winter commuting bike and I am not too sure what to get. I live in the DC metro area and we tend to get more ice and wintery mix than anything else. I currently commute 10 miles to work each way on my Trek Madone. I know that using the Madone in the winter might not be the best thing for the bike given the conditions. I have read in quite a few articles that single speed bikes are a good option. What is everyone else riding? what do you suggest? My budget is $300 -$400 and I am open to any suggestions.

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Old 11-19-12 | 11:58 AM
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Take a look at the Winter Cycling forum. All kinds of helpful tips, tricks, and pics. https://www.bikeforums.net/forumdispl...Winter-Cycling
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Old 11-19-12 | 12:03 PM
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Thanks. I must have missed that when I was perusing the forums.
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Old 11-19-12 | 01:23 PM
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Or you should be able to pick up an old hardtail mountain bike, nobby tires. Probably good with the slush, and it sounds you might not need studded tires. It will be an adjustment for the Madone, no doubt.
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Old 11-19-12 | 01:35 PM
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JPprivate - Thanks. I had the same thought myself. If I pick up and old MTB, do you think it would be better to switch it to a single speed?
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JPprivate - Thanks. I had the same thought myself. If I pick up and old MTB, do you think it would be better to switch it to a single speed?
Very much depends on your terrain (if you need gears) and if the conversion can be done easily (and cheap). In my experience, slush/salt isn't good but it doesn't exactly melt your chain and cassette. So even if you have to pick up a new chain and a slightly used cassette after two winters, it probably won't break the bank.

Not sure your experience riding MTBs, but it will be a dramatic difference from the Madone. You'll be noticeably slower.
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Old 11-19-12 | 02:07 PM
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For 3-400$ the torker graduate with drum brakes might be a good choice. I have a "customized" peugeot 5 speed with drum brakes and it's super nice to ride in the winter. There's not really any plausible way to contaminate the brakes and while they don't work as well as good hydraulic discs would, they are low maintenance and very predictable. My ride is a bit heavy but a new graduate wouldn't be quite as heavy as mine, and it doesn't come with a dynamo hub up front either so that'd be more money but I'd want one doing 32km every day in the winter it seems like batteries would get expensive but usb charging works for those that have computers at work. The nicest thing about the SA 5 speed hub is that they make many different shifters and they are pretty cheap on ebay if you wanted to upgrade to drops. The new torker is a bit more than I remember though looking at that page so Ima just gush about drum brakes instead... even upgrading a used MTB's front wheel to a drum/dynohub would give a solid brake and power for lights, basic cheap ones on ebay are okay for city use in my built-up city. I have nicer B&M lights on another bike and they are great if you can afford them.
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Old 11-19-12 | 02:09 PM
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Very much depends on your terrain (if you need gears) and if the conversion can be done easily (and cheap). In my experience, slush/salt isn't good but it doesn't exactly melt your chain and cassette. So even if you have to pick up a new chain and a slightly used cassette after two winters, it probably won't break the bank.

Not sure your experience riding MTBs, but it will be a dramatic difference from the Madone. You'll be noticeably slower.
I am very familiar with MTB bikes. I came over from MTB to road when I moved to the DC area. I don't mind the bike being slow, safety is more important to me.
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Clasher - That is a nice set of wheels. I will be sure to look into it.
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Old 11-19-12 | 02:23 PM
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Definitely check out the Winter Cycling Forum, as suggested. I have an old hardtail MTB converted to SS which I am very happy with. I would buy used and customize to your needs and climate.
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Old 11-19-12 | 02:26 PM
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The weather in D.C. is similar to ours in central Ohio. You can always count on at least one or two heavy snowfalls. I find the different variety in gears to be an advantage when riding in bad weather.
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Old 11-19-12 | 02:28 PM
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The weather in D.C. is similar to ours in central Ohio. You can always count on at least one or two heavy snowfalls. I find the different variety in gears to be an advantage when riding in bad weather.
What type of bike do you find to work best for you in the winter?
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The weather in D.C. is similar to ours in central Ohio. You can always count on at least one or two heavy snowfalls. I find the different variety in gears to be an advantage when riding in bad weather.
This is true - I have dealt with it (sort of) by having two separate rear singlespeed wheels with different tooth counts and tires: one for regular icy or hardpack conditions, and one for the occasional heavy snowfall day. It's probably overkill but I like it.
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Old 11-19-12 | 02:47 PM
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This is true - I have dealt with it (sort of) by having two separate rear singlespeed wheels with different tooth counts and tires: one for regular icy or hardpack conditions, and one for the occasional heavy snowfall day. It's probably overkill but I like it.
What tooth counts are you using for each condition?
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What tooth counts are you using for each condition?
The fast wheel has a 17 and the slow one 18 - front chainring is 42.
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Old 11-19-12 | 03:02 PM
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i commute in the same area and i will be getting one of these in january hopefully

https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/uno.htm

this will be my every season commuter. right now i ride a road bike with very cramped 28s and no fenders.

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i commute in the same area and i will be getting one of these in january hopefully

https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/uno.htm

this will be my every season commuter. right now i ride a road bike with very cramped 28s and no fenders.
I was looking at that bike myself. I am still torn between something new and something used. I think I am leaning more towards the used side to allocate more cash to some better components.
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If you end up converting an old mtb over to SS and find that you really could use more gearing options, you could look around for an IGH to lace into your rear wheel.
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Old 11-20-12 | 12:58 PM
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If you end up converting an old mtb over to SS and find that you really could use more gearing options, you could look around for an IGH to lace into your rear wheel.
I will check it out. Any certain brand to look for? I have been looking for an old mtb on craigslist but most of the bikes I have seen have been ridiculously priced for what it is. I will just have to keep checking it.
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I agree with the thought to buy an old mountain bike. Around here you can find RockHoppers by the dozen for cheap. I saw on CL 3 early 90 models. Remember your fit on the Madone will be different compared to any mountain bike. I may be able to dig up something, too.
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Will have to check out CL again. I haven't had a chance to look at it today. I use to ride an old Hard rock and it was a 19" with 26" wheels. An old one would be perfect. thanks Teamdarb. Are you commuting year round as well?
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I will check it out. Any certain brand to look for? I have been looking for an old mtb on craigslist but most of the bikes I have seen have been ridiculously priced for what it is. I will just have to keep checking it.
What's wrong with this bike for $100? https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/n...422904604.html

Brands do not matter. All you should care about is mechanical quality and size/fit.
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What is everyone else riding? what do you suggest? My budget is $300 -$400 and I am open to any suggestions.
my first foul weather/winter commuter was an old mid-90s raleigh hard-tail that I modified with a rigid fork and fenders. it was an awesome machine, but the canti rim brakes and derailleur drive-train were less than ideal on the messiest of winter days. during the winter season i would swap out the slicks on the wheels for studded tires (i had taken a few spills on ice before i got wise to the importance of studded tires).

after that bike was killed by a bus, i upgraded to a Scott SUB 10 hybrid which has an alfine 8 IGH and hydraulic disc brakes. just as on my old raliegh, in winter i swap out the slicks for studded tires. it's a splendid tool for the job, but a little spendy at $1,200, and well outside of your price range. if you're trying to stay on budget, you can do a lot worse than finding an old used hard-tail to upgrade.
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Old 11-20-12 | 02:15 PM
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What's wrong with this bike for $100? https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/n...422904604.html

Brands do not matter. All you should care about is mechanical quality and size/fit.
Thanks for the link. Looks like a good deal. I am not concerned with the brand of the bike at all. I was asking about the IGH since I am not too familiar with it.
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Old 11-20-12 | 02:22 PM
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my first foul weather/winter commuter was an old mid-90s raleigh hard-tail that I modified with a rigid fork and fenders. it was an awesome machine, but the canti rim brakes and derailleur drive-train were less than ideal on the messiest of winter days. during the winter season i would swap out the slicks on the wheels for studded tires (i had taken a few spills on ice before i got wise to the importance of studded tires).

after that bike was killed by a bus, i upgraded to a Scott SUB 10 hybrid which has an alfine 8 IGH and hydraulic disc brakes. just as on my old raliegh, in winter i swap out the slicks for studded tires. it's a splendid tool for the job, but a little spendy at $1,200, and well outside of your price range. if you're trying to stay on budget, you can do a lot worse than finding an old used hard-tail to upgrade.
Kind of off topic but I love your avatar!
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