Lights, lights, and more lights...
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Lights, lights, and more lights...
Now that Betsy (the bike) is on the road and is officially my commuter I am in need of some lights...I will be forward by telling you that I am not in the place to afford top of the line lights so I need the best bang for the buck.
Help me pick some out...my budget is ~$35 for the set.
https://www.amazon.com/CatEye-HL-EL13...1176505&sr=1-2
https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Bike-Su...176505&sr=1-11
https://www.amazon.com/Portland-Desig...176505&sr=1-12
https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Bike-Bl...1176688&sr=1-2
https://www.amazon.com/Portland-Desig...1176688&sr=1-6
https://www.amazon.com/Bell-iPulse-LE...1176688&sr=1-8
https://www.amazon.com/Biologic-Flash...176714&sr=1-35
https://www.amazon.com/Two-Fish-Unlim...176714&sr=1-45
p.s. I have a mini mag light (LED) that I was considering to use as my headlight...good or bad idea?
Thanks!
Help me pick some out...my budget is ~$35 for the set.
https://www.amazon.com/CatEye-HL-EL13...1176505&sr=1-2
https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Bike-Su...176505&sr=1-11
https://www.amazon.com/Portland-Desig...176505&sr=1-12
https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Bike-Bl...1176688&sr=1-2
https://www.amazon.com/Portland-Desig...1176688&sr=1-6
https://www.amazon.com/Bell-iPulse-LE...1176688&sr=1-8
https://www.amazon.com/Biologic-Flash...176714&sr=1-35
https://www.amazon.com/Two-Fish-Unlim...176714&sr=1-45
p.s. I have a mini mag light (LED) that I was considering to use as my headlight...good or bad idea?
Thanks!
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I started commuting with a 4 D (LED) Mag light, it worked, not as well as the MagicShine that replaced it, or as well as the B&M Lumotec that replaced the MagicShine.
I am not sure how the mini Mag would work for you.
I am not sure how the mini Mag would work for you.
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Now that Betsy (the bike) is on the road and is officially my commuter I am in need of some lights...I will be forward by telling you that I am not in the place to afford top of the line lights so I need the best bang for the buck.
Help me pick some out...my budget is ~$35 for the set.
https://www.amazon.com/CatEye-HL-EL13...1176505&sr=1-2
https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Bike-Su...176505&sr=1-11
https://www.amazon.com/Portland-Desig...176505&sr=1-12
https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Bike-Bl...1176688&sr=1-2
https://www.amazon.com/Portland-Desig...1176688&sr=1-6
https://www.amazon.com/Bell-iPulse-LE...1176688&sr=1-8
https://www.amazon.com/Biologic-Flash...176714&sr=1-35
https://www.amazon.com/Two-Fish-Unlim...176714&sr=1-45
p.s. I have a mini mag light (LED) that I was considering to use as my headlight...good or bad idea?
Thanks!
Help me pick some out...my budget is ~$35 for the set.
https://www.amazon.com/CatEye-HL-EL13...1176505&sr=1-2
https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Bike-Su...176505&sr=1-11
https://www.amazon.com/Portland-Desig...176505&sr=1-12
https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Bike-Bl...1176688&sr=1-2
https://www.amazon.com/Portland-Desig...1176688&sr=1-6
https://www.amazon.com/Bell-iPulse-LE...1176688&sr=1-8
https://www.amazon.com/Biologic-Flash...176714&sr=1-35
https://www.amazon.com/Two-Fish-Unlim...176714&sr=1-45
p.s. I have a mini mag light (LED) that I was considering to use as my headlight...good or bad idea?
Thanks!
You can find lots of LED taillights for around $15 to $25. The Planet Bike Superflash is a good choice for around $25. I know the whole package is slightly more than you were planning on spending but you'll get top quality lighting for bargain basement prices.
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Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
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A mini mag won't work at all. You need anything with a CREE Led light like shown in the above example which will give you alot of bang for your buck.
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$35 will not get you a headlight to see by, but it will get you decent lights to be seen by. If you'll be riding after sunset, I STRONGLY recommend getting something like the MagicShine 808.
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I wanted a self-contained light to SEE by, also with USB recharging. I found that you really have to shell out the bucks to get anything decent that will fit that bill. I'm talking $80-$120 or so. I'm loving my Cygolite ExpiliOn 700. Awesome light, but runs about $120. USB charging is really handy for me.
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An alternate is one of these for your headlight:
SSC-P7 3 Mode 1200 Lumen Cree LED Bike Light Set
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Those aren't the best bang for your buck. This one is. The other lights are very low output lights...in the 80 lumen range. The actual output of the Cree isn't 1200 lumens but it's more like 600 to 700 lumens. The other lights are going to put a little barely visible spot on the ground in front of you. The Cree is going to light up the road.
You can find lots of LED taillights for around $15 to $25. The Planet Bike Superflash is a good choice for around $25. I know the whole package is slightly more than you were planning on spending but you'll get top quality lighting for bargain basement prices.
You can find lots of LED taillights for around $15 to $25. The Planet Bike Superflash is a good choice for around $25. I know the whole package is slightly more than you were planning on spending but you'll get top quality lighting for bargain basement prices.
https://www.amazon.com/Cygolite-Hotsh...hot+tail+light
Much brighter than the PB Superflash at a similar price and conveniently rechargeable.
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I agree with the others who say, the Superflash and the Radbot are good tailights. The Cygolight is awesome. However the headlights you linked to are lights that let the cars see you. You will not be able to see the ground to avoid small things most of the time, with those lights.
The headlight cyccomute linked to is a very, very, good value, and you can see well with it.
The headlight cyccomute linked to is a very, very, good value, and you can see well with it.
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Up your budget and get the front light cycommute recommended. I bought one at the start of this winter and couldn't be happier. It's as bright as one of my car's headlights. The whole external battery thing threw me for a loop but once I figured out where to mount it I've pretty much forgotten about it until it needs charging.
After 3 winters of commuting with the little 1-watt PB front light I can't believe I didn't switch sooner.
As for the rear, the Planet Bike Superflash is good. That's what I use in back.
After 3 winters of commuting with the little 1-watt PB front light I can't believe I didn't switch sooner.
As for the rear, the Planet Bike Superflash is good. That's what I use in back.
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Upon first glance, I thought I was being challenged...

My budget for lighting is a little higher than $35 due to my needs, I don't think I'd be of much help.
Whatever you do eventually choose, please don't be a firefly-in-a-supernova type rider. They may be just as bad as ninjas ("well, I do have a light" has the potential to cause a lot of problems).

My budget for lighting is a little higher than $35 due to my needs, I don't think I'd be of much help.
Whatever you do eventually choose, please don't be a firefly-in-a-supernova type rider. They may be just as bad as ninjas ("well, I do have a light" has the potential to cause a lot of problems).
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I have used deal extreme tail lights with pretty good results. https://dx.com/p/bicycle-bike-2-mode-...2-x-aaa-120031
This is obviously a superflash knock off, as are the ones I have previously purchased. Though the ones I bought a couple years ago didn't look so blatantly like a PB product. I have owned deal extreme tail lights, PB superflashes, and radbots (as well as dinotte, cateye, and others). The deal extreme lights have held up as well as the superflashes, but not as well as the radbots.
This is obviously a superflash knock off, as are the ones I have previously purchased. Though the ones I bought a couple years ago didn't look so blatantly like a PB product. I have owned deal extreme tail lights, PB superflashes, and radbots (as well as dinotte, cateye, and others). The deal extreme lights have held up as well as the superflashes, but not as well as the radbots.
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the PB 3 blinky flash is no good despite all the reviews...mine stopped blinking after about 7 months of casual commuting (used ~2x/wk) in the seattle area. now it's constant red and won't go back. at about the 5 month mark it started having issues due to the battery not connecting properly to the terminals...
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My Super Flash has worked flawlessly for years. But that's kind of the point: It's old tech. The CygoLite Hotshot or Portland Design Works lights are superior for about the same money. And for the little extra you pay, you save on batteries since the CygoLites and PDWs are USB rechargeable.
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I skip the Battery lights , have a Hub Dynamo and wired tail and headlights.
the bucks are up front, the LED lights dont burn out Bulbs, and so thereafter
all I do is turn the wheels. the power is generated as I go.
rechargeable batteries have a finite number of recharge cycles.
the bucks are up front, the LED lights dont burn out Bulbs, and so thereafter
all I do is turn the wheels. the power is generated as I go.
rechargeable batteries have a finite number of recharge cycles.
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That's a lot of up-front cost, though, and probably way out of the OP's budget.
I have dynamo lighting my commuter, but only because I got a deal on a wheelset with a SON28 dynohub. To fit that to all my bikes would put me in the poor house.
I have dynamo lighting my commuter, but only because I got a deal on a wheelset with a SON28 dynohub. To fit that to all my bikes would put me in the poor house.
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I would also recommend the type of CREE lights linked to above, and would also suggest you can look into CREE flashlights with comparable brightness and attach it to your handlebars with two interlocked hose clamps; or get a cheap flashlight/handlebar mount for a buck or two from dealextreme (many people seem to like the twofish lockblock or its knockoffs). I'm just sayin, you might get a little more bang for your buck if you expand your search to general flashlights, rather than specific bicycle lights.
A word of warning; any super-cheap CREE light packages you are likely to find online has a risk of including bad batteries. I am very happy with a flashlight I bought off eBay for I think $27, but a "full charge" of the two 18650 batteries lasts not much longer than half an hour. (That's the bad news. The good news is that the length of my commute is not much longer than half an hour -- and by the time I get near work, the sun is well up and I can switch to energy-saving blinky mode)
So you might buy a light now, and save up to later spend $20-30 for high quality replacement batteries from an American company (batteryjunction.com, there are others as well). You can read more about batteries in this thread. Good luck!
A word of warning; any super-cheap CREE light packages you are likely to find online has a risk of including bad batteries. I am very happy with a flashlight I bought off eBay for I think $27, but a "full charge" of the two 18650 batteries lasts not much longer than half an hour. (That's the bad news. The good news is that the length of my commute is not much longer than half an hour -- and by the time I get near work, the sun is well up and I can switch to energy-saving blinky mode)
So you might buy a light now, and save up to later spend $20-30 for high quality replacement batteries from an American company (batteryjunction.com, there are others as well). You can read more about batteries in this thread. Good luck!
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is the mini mag one of those new mini mag pro 230 lumen lights, or is it an old 1 watt?
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A word of warning; any super-cheap CREE light packages you are likely to find online has a risk of including bad batteries. I am very happy with a flashlight I bought off eBay for I think $27, but a "full charge" of the two 18650 batteries lasts not much longer than half an hour. (That's the bad news. The good news is that the length of my commute is not much longer than half an hour -- and by the time I get near work, the sun is well up and I can switch to energy-saving blinky mode)
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Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
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But really, I'm resigned to 30-40min duration from these batteries, for $27 it's still a good value, and meets my current needs, and I know I can spend another $20-30 someday to get some batteries that might last me a week. Certainly way way cheaper than what it would cost to get that kind of brightness from a "bicycle light".
Hey, I read your Good Ol Fashion Appalachian Butt Whoopin from your .sig! What a great travelogue! I made a web travelogue kind of like that once for a (much smaller!) touring trip I took with a college friend. I should dig it up and see if I can post it online again.
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Shimano's dyno hubs are pretty cheap, Machine built wheels are not much more.
Planet Bike offers a wired version of their superflash headlight,
inline plug now makes putting it in your pocket easy.
for those who prefer stuff on the handlebar.
a second battery operated headlight makes a handy flashlight..
when you have to mend punctures in the dark.
Planet Bike offers a wired version of their superflash headlight,
inline plug now makes putting it in your pocket easy.
for those who prefer stuff on the handlebar.
a second battery operated headlight makes a handy flashlight..
when you have to mend punctures in the dark.
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Where do you find cheap dyno hubs? I looked yesterday and the absolute cheapest Shimano dyno hub was still $100, and the cheapest wheel with dyno hub was nearly $170. Not exactly cheap, to me anyway.
I heard you can get Shimano dyno hubs in Europe for something like $30-$40, but not in the USA.
I heard you can get Shimano dyno hubs in Europe for something like $30-$40, but not in the USA.
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Sanyo has cheaper hubs, like about $50. The owner of my LBS likes them.



