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Originally Posted by rsacilotto
(Post 15309578)
I have SKS Chromoplastic with Planet Bike Cascadia mud flaps - I had to use screws to attach the flaps, the snap-on system didn't work. Very satisfied with the result.
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I'd never even consider riding without fenders. Neither would you, if you lived in Seattle.
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I've got fenders - Planet Bike Cascadias, I believe - on one of my two bikes. Consequently, that's the bike that gets ridden when it's wet outside, as the fenders do a good job of keeping most water off my feet, and crud (there's a lot of it on Shanghai roads) off my back and off my bike.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 15309139)
Personally, I'd rather use rain pants and a ti frame. I lie fenders on some bikes, but it's more aesthetics than any actual advantage.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 15309139)
Personally, I'd rather use rain pants and a ti frame. I lie fenders on some bikes, but it's more aesthetics than any actual advantage.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 15308763)
I find the best protection is to slow down as I go through. You folks are entitled to your opinion - but my opinion is not as a Sunday rider from April to October. I ride through snow and slush and if it's that ugly, I use rain paints.
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Originally Posted by Altair 4
(Post 15310923)
The OP said that he was finally able to afford fenders. I think that a TI frame might be out of his reach.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 15308763)
I ride to work 5 days a week, all year. I don't drive. I commute in rain, snow...etc. find fenders mostly worthless.
Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 15308763)
There's a better solution to salt - it's called titanium
Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 15308763)
I find the best protection is to slow down as I go through.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 15309139)
Fenders need to be adjusted and tightened down.
Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 15309139)
They can interfere with rack use
Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 15309139)
They limit tire size options. They can get rub when the tire isn't true or when they creep.
Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 15309139)
They add weight.
Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 15309139)
They decrease space between wheel and dt so that you can't get he wheel over some racks.
Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 15309139)
It's reasonable to decide the negatives don't outweigh the positives, but there ARE negatives.
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I ordered Planet Bike Cascadia fenders after my commute a few days ago here in the PNW. I noticed that the spray from my front tire was flying directly into my mouth when I was on the drops and breathing hard. While I like to stay hydrated, street spray is not my ideal water source. Cant wait for my fenders to get here.
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Originally Posted by PunkRockMD
(Post 15311714)
I noticed that the spray from my front tire was flying directly into my mouth when I was on the drops and breathing hard.
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 15308763)
I ride to work 5 days a week, all year. I don't drive. I commute in rain, snow...etc. I find fenders mostly worthless. There's a better solution to salt - it's called titanium.
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It might be irrelevant to you - but it isn't to me. I built my ti winter bike for under $300 - granted I got lucky. Apologies if it's coming across as snobbery, but to me fenders are a second choice when there are better solutions available. If others like them, great...but it can be useful to hear other perspectives. Mine is that fenders offer me minimal advantage and I've explained what I view as negatives. And I get to lock my bike indoors on a large rack...unfortunately the fender prevents me from putting my front wheel over the rack - which means I have to lock an awkward way, or just the wheel (unless I get lucky and get an end position). So yes - it's a disadvantage to me.
I'm not insulting other people's views on them, so it would be nice not to be insulted for mine. We all ride in different places and with different needs - mine make fenders inferior to other options. |
Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 15311993)
It might be irrelevant to you - but it isn't to me. I built my ti winter bike for under $300 - granted I got lucky. Apologies if it's coming across as snobbery, but to me fenders are a crappy, stupid alternative when there are better solutions available. If others like them, great...but it can be useful to hear other perspectives. Mine is that fenders offer me minimal advantage and I've explained what I view as negatives.
I'm not insulting other people's views on them, so it would be nice not to be insulted for mine. |
That's what rain pants and shoe covers are for...and my feet get wet in puddles with fenders too.
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So after a few more days of rainy riding, I'm still impressed with the fenders. Some people warned me they rattle, but none of that so far. I still get a little spray on my shoes (no mudflaps, not sure if they help with that) but my pants and shirt stay clean. The plastic is light and doesn't slow me down at all.
I don't have a rack on my bike, and it only has one set of eyelets. So maybe that would be a problem for someone who does want racks, although I'm sure a workaround wouldn't be hard to find. |
Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 15312010)
That's what rain pants and shoe covers are for...and my feet get wet in puddles with fenders too.
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I keep at least one bike with full fenders in the fleet at all times for reasons already mentioned by others here.
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When my regular commuting bike went OOC for a week, I rode a road bike without fenders. We had the normal 2-3 rainy days that week and although I liked better performing bike, I hated how much more wet I was when I arrived at work and also the additional time it took to wipe the bike down. Fenders are a pain when you don't need them: they rattle, make me deflate the rear tire to get the wheel off, and occasionally collect random debris. In wet weather, though, I wouldn't want to be without them.
What I like best is the water droplets shooting out of the front fender when illuminated by my fork crown mounted headlight. A hypnotic light show - what a treat! |
Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 15312010)
...and my feet get wet in puddles with fenders too.
If your feet are getting wet with fenders mounted, you need better mudguards (or fenders). The front guard should be low enough to keep water from spaying back at your feet and drivetrain, and wide enough to stop the side-splash. The rear fender should be close enough at the chainstay bridge to keep any spray from coming forward off the tire. A rear guard should hang down far enough to keep your paceline buddies from getting sprayed much above the hubs. The front one is negotiable based on how much road grit you're willing to consume every time you hit your water bottle. The rear one, for rain rides with my randonneuring group, is not optional. You don't have a mudguard, the only change of scenery you get is a different butt as everyone else gets to take a turn up front except for you. |
Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
(Post 15309139)
Fenders need to be adjusted and tightened down. They can interfere with rack use - they certainly made putting on low riders more time consuming. They limit tire size options. They can get rub when the tire isn't true or when they creep. They add weight. They decrease space between wheel and dt so that you can't get he wheel over some racks. They can collect snow and mud.
It's reasonable to decide the negatives don't outweigh the positives, but there ARE negatives. Personally, I'd rather use rain pants and a ti frame. I lie fenders on some bikes, but it's more aesthetics than any actual advantage. I have one bike that takes full fenders and have QR mtb fenders for several others. On top of that I wear a rainsuit and ocassionally gaiters is conditions are really wet or slushy. Full fenders have no issues with Nokian 240's in a 700x42c size in the winter or 26x1.75" Marathons in the summer. I need the clip-ons for the 2" and 2.5" tire sizes. My winter bike is an 18 year old Giant so with proper maintenaince the issues of salt danage are probably a little exaggerated, but all the mud, dog crap and other stuff on the road I'd rather NOT have all over my clothes. Not only is it a mess - it means clothing has to be washed more often which reduces its life expectancy, and materials like GoreTex are far less effective when dirty. Your tastes may vary. |
Originally Posted by bro
(Post 15308892)
are there any fenders that are like, quick release? like something that doesnt need tools and can be removed in less than a minute
i know if they do exist they wouldnt work as well as full fenders and might look weird but im open to it if anyone knows about any |
Originally Posted by PunkRockMD
(Post 15311714)
I ordered Planet Bike Cascadia fenders after my commute a few days ago here in the PNW. I noticed that the spray from my front tire was flying directly into my mouth when I was on the drops and breathing hard. While I like to stay hydrated, street spray is not my ideal water source. Cant wait for my fenders to get here.
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I've had my fenders installed for several months. I never noticed the weight (what's a couple of hundred grams when my fully loaded bike is well over 15kg), they'e never rattled, didn't interfere with my rear rack, and I haven't had to adjust them once. In my view, fenders are pretty much set them up and then forget about them - they're hardly what I'd call 'high maintenance'! :D
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When I don't need them, I prefer to ride without fenders. However, my main commuter bikes have fenders and I'm not taking them off. If you commute regularly, you are going to get caught in the rain or at least riding on wet streets. Having fenders on my commuter bikes means that I'm able to ride a lot of days that I would otherwise wimp out and drive. The biggest advantage to me is that they keep my bikes and drive train much cleaner, but it's also nice not having a brown strip up my back. When the weather is nice and there is zero chance of rain, I generally ride one of my bikes without fenders, simply because they are lighter and faster.
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