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Ridefreemc 03-15-13 07:07 AM

Got to love this graphic/the final part
 
Ultimate Fuel Efficiency...

http://thumbnails.visually.netdna-cdn.com/fuel-efficiency-in-the-us_50290f5304ca1.jpg

jrickards 03-15-13 07:20 AM

= 0.26 L/100km

Put it this way, all I have to do is by the end of 100km, consume just 1 Cup of gasoline, yeah, I could do that! :lol:

Ridefreemc 03-15-13 07:44 AM

And for those that live in the Twin Cities - sounds as though you have it goin' on!

http://thumbnails.visually.netdna-cd...90f78ad9cf.jpg

jrickards - do the coffee man - better mileage!

Ridefreemc 03-15-13 07:47 AM

I am looking for good inforgraphics for a work project, but keep coming across those that would be of interest to you here:

http://thumbnails.visually.netdna-cd...90f2110a6d.jpg

smasha 03-15-13 09:32 AM

and for those who are really concerned about the environment... GO VEGAN!

http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Sci...meat-and-dairy


Vegans’ GHG emissions were 41.7% lower than the non-vegetarians, lacto-ovo vegetarians’ emissions were 27.8% lower, pesco-vegetarians’ were 23.8% lower and semi-vegetarians were just under 20% lower.”

Combined, the vegans and vegetarians generated 30% fewer GHG emissions than meat eaters, he told FoodNavigator-USA:

"The differences we have estimated are based on the AHS-2 non-vegetarian population as the reference or benchmark group. The consumption of animal products by this non-vegetarian population is less than that of the general population. This means that if we compared our vegetarian population against the average American diet, the reduction in greenhouse gas emissions would be even more dramatic."
it's easy to forget that animal agriculture causes MORE environmental harm than all the world's transportation combined! from Livestock's Long Shadow...


The livestock sector is a major player [in climate change], responsible for 18% of greenhouse gas emissions measured in CO2 equivalent. This is a higher share than transport.

Burton 03-15-13 10:22 AM

But I really really wanted one of those NASA crawlers! :(

What if I just look at it and don't actually drive it ... :innocent:

jrickards 03-15-13 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by smasha (Post 15390048)
and for those who are really concerned about the environment... GO VEGAN!

http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Sci...meat-and-dairy

it's easy to forget that animal agriculture causes MORE environmental harm than all the world's transportation combined! from Livestock's Long Shadow...

Huh? Whenever I consume less meat and eat more beans and cabbage, my GHG emissions go way up! I guess my wife must be an environmentalist because she kicks me out at those times.

dynaryder 03-15-13 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by Ridefreemc (Post 15389467)

The average annual cost for diesel is wrong;it should be $783something,not $1895.

dynaryder 03-15-13 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by smasha (Post 15390048)
it's easy to forget that animal agriculture causes MORE environmental harm than all the world's transportation combined! from Livestock's Long Shadow...

It's also never talked about how bad pets are for the environment. Not just in ecological footprint,but also in the number of wild animals killed by pets every year.

David Bierbaum 03-15-13 05:50 PM

Now I want a Lamborgini Murcielago!

The NASA Crawler statistics are somewhat misleading, since they forget to mention the amount of freight it transports, which must be included in the calculation, as mpgpt -- Miles Per Gallon Per Ton. :D

I just tried to appear smart. Someone is going to give me a huge wallop with actual facts, and I'll end up feeling like the total idiot I am! ;)

Burton 03-15-13 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by David Bierbaum (Post 15391884)
Now I want a Lamborgini Murcielago!

The NASA Crawler statistics are somewhat misleading, since they forget to mention the amount of freight it transports, which must be included in the calculation, as mpgpt -- Miles Per Gallon Per Ton. :D

I just tried to appear smart. Someone is going to give me a huge wallop with actual facts, and I'll end up feeling like the total idiot I am! ;)

If we calculate how many Lamborginis it can transport in one shot - maybe the gas milage can be justified! :lol:

smasha 03-15-13 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by dynaryder (Post 15391637)
It's also never talked about how bad pets are for the environment. Not just in ecological footprint,but also in the number of wild animals killed by pets every year.

it's not that it's never talked about... but it's incredibly unpopular to talk about it, especially in the country with the highest ratio of domestic cats per person...

Morgan calls for cats to be wiped out - National - NZ Herald News
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10860618

That little ball of fluff you own is a natural born killer
http://garethsworld.com/catstogo/

for better or worse, that guy is branded as a loon. logically, what he's actually proposing makes sense, but it's fiercely opposed, even by most environmental/conservation groups.


Originally Posted by David Bierbaum (Post 15391884)
The NASA Crawler statistics are somewhat misleading, since they forget to mention the amount of freight it transports, which must be included in the calculation, as mpgpt -- Miles Per Gallon Per Ton. :D

I just tried to appear smart. Someone is going to give me a huge wallop with actual facts, and I'll end up feeling like the total idiot I am! ;)

not so crazy... "Fuel efficiency for trains is measured in terms of ton-miles, because the length and weight of trains varies greatly" - http://www.csx.com/index.cfm/about-c...el-efficiency/

of course there's a little bit of self-congratulatory spin and green-washing in CSX's conclusions, but it's not entirely wrong.

the other thing to bear in mind with the NASA crawler is that almost half of the distance it covers, it's empty. it rarely does a round-trip with a full load.

there's also "passenger miles per gallon" which is a real metric - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_miles_per_gallon

in simple terms, using round numbers, one person on a motorcycle is more fuel efficient than one person in a small SUV... but 2-3 people in a small SUV is more fuel efficient than 2-3 people on 2-3 motorcycles.


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