I agree, I wouldn't put alot of weight into it. But it is food for thought. Also, if they really wanted to test locks, they should have tested more of them.

That doesn't look like a hacksaw cut but more from a bolt cutter. The link on the left has some marks that look like he clamped down there but then decided to go for a different link. I would think the Bordo would hold up to smaller bolt cutters that you can easily fit in a backpack, but I guess not. I do appreciate the picture. I was hoping you would post one but I didn't want to be a pain and ask for one.

Good thing you came out why you did. I don't know what did it from the picture and I am no expert, but I'd guess a grinder as I doubt other tools would have went across the lock at an angle. They sure wouldn't if I was trying to cut them. No lock will stop a grinder, but the better locks can slow them down a lot more. I wonder how long it was being cut for.

Yes, absolutely. I'm not saying they're necessarily lying about the results, but if they sat there and nibbled away at the TiGr for 40 mins while anchored in a vise is something completely different from them taking 30 seconds and two good bites while the lock was securing a bike on a rack. What can be achieved in one scenario may not be possible at all in another.

Absent all critical info, the Mens' Journal simply article cannot be taken seriously in any way.

Could be a grinder, but those marks on the link on the left make me think bolt cutters. If around the cut the plastic looks melted then I would say grinder for sure. This must be a different model Bordo than the one I have. I have this one: https://lockitt.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?...ode=BLAB600121
I agree that the bike would have been gone if he hadn't walked out that moment.

I didn't notice the marks on the other link. That makes bolt cutters more likely.

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Yup, no melting on the plastic. And I just checked the packaging--this was an Abus 6050.

The weird thing is that although I have a moderately nice bike, the other bike on the same rack as mine would have been far easier to sell here--my frame is only 15 inches and has disc brakes (these two attributes combining to be so unpopular it took my LBS 8 weeks to locate this bike when I ordered it), while the other bike on the rack was total hipster fixie candy. I'm thinking the lock just seemed like a sweet opportunity. Because of my personal bike rack cops at work, I really don't have to sweat bike security during the day, and I foolishly didn't think the highest rent district of Philly would be where someone would try to jack my ride. With age comes wisdom, I guess.

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Sorry...

Good to know which model of Bordo you have. The Bordo Lite's description states "ferrous alloy" vs. the "hardened steel" of the other Bordo variants. Hardened steel should hold up better to bolt cutters. Regardless, you are one lucky girl. Go out and get a new lock ASAP whether Abus or Kryptonite.

I just looked up and Abus Bordo locks are priced $60-$120. So the thief was able to cut through such a supposedly tough lock in broad daylight? I always use two locks (one light Abus steel-o-chain, one U lock), total less than $50. Reading your unfortunate experience makes me think I should continue to do so.

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if both ends of the cut are angular and look like > < then it was a bolt cutter.
from what i can see that lock looks like its about 1/4" thick at most and im not surprised thats all it took

go for a ulock at least, something much thicker

fietsbob, thanks for the Bike Radar site tip!

Ok, all you two lock people, how do you carry these locks? (Please note women's clothes rarely have functional back pockets or belts to tuck a lock into.) What do you do when you don't want to carry a pack? Are there any frame mounts that don't suck? A big attraction of the bordo locks is the frame mount...

Yes, that's important to know; the top-of-the-line, 'hardened steel' Bordo 6500 Granit X-Plus has a Two Star rating from ART, which is very good security, but not maximum security if that's what you need and want; ART certifies up to 5 Stars.

The titanium TiGr locks share the same same Two Star rating as the Granit X-Plus. I don't know exactly how ART arrives at their ratings or what their tests are, but they are one of the premier certification agencies for lock security: https://www.stichtingart.nl/sloten_resultaat.asp

Don't buy TiGr locks. You can break them quicker than U-locks(Friend bought one).

I have 3 Krypto. and I have never had my bike stolen. Also I have never had an issue unlocking them even in winter. I lube them every 6 month with dry lube tho. The only issue that bothers me is the rattling sound coming from it when you mount it on your frame.

That's a ridiculous thing to say; it would depend on which u-lock, which TiGr, the tool, and the lockup scenario.

And as for silly personal anecdotes and testimonials, to my knowledge, there has never been a successful theft of a bike under TiGr lock protection EVER. Attempts and failures only. How about that? 100% perfect protection. U locks? Lots of broken u lock thefts, therefore, don't buy a u-lock? Only a fool would say such a thing.

Next time you're up this way, let me show you how easy it is to carry a TiGr on a bike!

When there are as many TiGr locks in use as U locks, and thieves have had a chance to figure out what works against them, that will mean something. But saying that "less thefts than U locks" when there are 2000 TiGr locks in the wild and 400,000,000 U locks means nothing.

My 2 lock kit on Bike Friday is the C-note Bordo + a Steel-O-Chain.
I hang it from my handlebars , a toe strap keeps it from swinging ..

my Koga WTR had an AXA ring lock, but I had to upgrade to the 'Defender'
as no Lock up chains were made for the Prior SL 7 model, so, now I have the 1.4M chain too.

I agree. Saying no bike has been stolen when protected by a tigr lock is fine but there are so few out there compared to the alternatives. I do get the attraction to the tigr locks due to how you can store it nicely on the frame.

I will point out that the ART foundation gave the 1.5 inch TiGr a two star rating, the same as your Abus Bordo. It is an elegant solution, no doubt, but maybe not the most secure.

Without even testing the Tigr lock i can guess it isn't as safe as a small ulock by design.
First, it is long which makes it easier for a thief to grab it where the empty space exists. Secondly, the flat, relatively thin and wide surface makes it easier to grab it with one hand while the other have a hacksaw or an angle grinder. What worry me is the lock area. The plus is that it is flexible and made of titanium. The flexibility is the reason why i choose a chain over an ulock.

Talking about ART foundation i've noticed that chains based solutions get usually at least one star more than other solutions (must be because the strongest ulock are not even there)
https://www.stichtingart.nl/sloten_resultaat.asp

Did you miss the part where I said, "Only a fool would say such a thing"? Jesus.

I already pointed that out, noting it was actually the 6500 XPlus. See post #38 above.

Note to self, Abus Bordo Lite mdl# Abus 6050 = Cable Lock!

Before getting the Sporty Quick bike. I would haul my *Big K* NYFU (aka boat anchor #1) and O.G. Brute (aka boat anchor #2) around in my panniers (only had the Epic Adventure bike then), That's just under 9 lbs of steel.

When spending time at the library or other Economically Estranged areas of Los Angeles I would use one on front wheel and frame and anchor object, plus the other around rear wheel and frame and anchor object when I could (Had Serious Trust ISSUES with cables). But with several years therapy and 3 times a week group meetings with Riders Betrayed By Cable Locks, my team of Psychologists say I have come a long way............. UUhhhmmm,...Wait ... Uh ... Oh!! what was the question?
Really, I'm OK, I'm OK. (repeats to self) Think of losing the bike as an *Interesting*, and *Challenging*, *Growth*, *Opportunity*... Interesting and Challenging Growth Opportunity ... interesting and challenging growth opportunity ... interestingandchallenginggrowthopportunity...interestingandchallenginggrothoportunuity........ Yeah Right

I'm going to have to get back to you on this.......