I want something for my short commute to work and errands that I can walk in and looks "normal" off the bike with jeans. I have looked at Chrome and DRZ on line. Style wise I am fine with the MTB look so I went and bought some Shimano MT33 but after wearing around the house they seem too stiff to do much walking in. My work is casual dress and I sit in a cube most of the day. What are people using that they like other than a change of shoes?

I think you'll find everything a little stiff for walking in. I used to wear my Keen Austins at work which look pretty normal, but it wasn't that comfy and the cleats crunch quite a bit on pavement. Now I just keep a pair of slip-ons under my desk to change into.

Any serious cycling shoe will have a stiff sole, they have to.

Leave a second pair of shoes in the office.

For errands, just walk on the mountain bike shoes. They're not bad to walk in, just a little different at first.

Thanks. I think I'm going to use the MTB shoes and stick another pair in my backpack. My daily shoes are Sanuk, Chucks or Merrell barefoot trail so they are all light and won't take up too much room in my backpack and I'll just wear the shimamo if I'm doing errands etc

My mtb shoes are decent enough for short walks, my touring shoes are better as they are more flexible but nothing beats my Merell barefoot shoes for absolute comfort.

I wear a pair of DZRs and I find them fine to walk in. Little stiff, but totally doable and fine for me. I've walked over a mile in them and wear them at the office.

Pearl Izumi X-Alp Seeks are supremely comfortable on and off the bike, and don't scream "bicycle shoes!" when off the bike. I used them a lot in Seattle when going form home to childrens hospital because i could just unclip, lock the bike up, and walk right in...

The cool thing about these is that they make a running shoe that uses the exact same top, so they look rather normal--and the cleats ride up deep enough that they are mostly quiet when walking (on certain tile floors they would click).

I'm using the Keen shoes - I think the model is Spring Water or something like that. They look geeky, but not as bad as some. They're reasonably comfortable off bike.

Here's what they look like:

3/4 boot, Theres enough straps to keep your heel in the shoe,
typical, stiff sole and the heel, walking, pulls up.
foot flexes , shoe doesn't.

might be warm soon..

I usually use Pearl Izumi All-Road shoes, but they have a somewhat stiff sole. I also have a pair of Pearl Izumi Fuels, which feel great for walking but on the bike they make it feel like I'm putting my bare foot on the pedal.

I actually do like the Keen Austins, and haven't yet had the issues described by Mr. Hairy Legs.

I have a standing desk at work, and keep 3 pairs of shoes under it:

Crocs: very comfortable for standing all day
Black leather slip-on shoes: for when I need to leave my desk (meetings, etc.)
Tennis shoes: for when I feel like walking during my break times instead of riding

This way, it doesn't matter what cycling shoes I wear.

Is the standing desk by choice? I've been wondering how I can possibly swing this for about 40-50% of the day, but still be able to sit for the rest. I'm stumped as to how I can achieve this.

Yes, by choice. I moved my work surface up in my cubicle back in November 2012. The first 3 weeks or so, it took some getting used to, with sore knees and such, but now I can stand for the entire day (9.5 hours) and completely forget that I'm standing.

I no longer have any back pain - something that I was dealing with for many years.

Last week, I was attending a Microsoft SharePoint administration class all week, and didn't have my standing desk. I was actually very uncomfortable sitting for long periods of time. I found myself standing up during the lectures, and only sitting when I had to - for the labs.

I share an office space with 2 others, and they both converted their desks to standing as well. One of them stands for only about 1/2 the day. What he did was install his monitor on an extendable arm (ergotron), so that he can drop it slightly below the level of the desk. The keyboard and mouse are a little high for him when he's a in a seated position, but he's OK with that.

There are height-adjustable desks, for those that don't want to stand all the time. I'm sure they're not cheap, but simply by pressing a button, you can change the height. Great for shared working spaces. I'm considering getting one for home, since my wife is 11" shorter than me.

Here's a good example, though far out of my price range: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjiN6Q9wwOE

Sorry to derail the thread...Maybe we should start a new one.

Interesting.
But the price: ~$1800
Ouch!

That desk looks pretty nice. My problem is that I have 4 boxes, 3 monitors, two mice (left + right) and a keyboard, and setting all that stuff up in a way that it can be easily moved up and down is daunting. My legs are getting pretty uncomfortable from sitting all day though, to the point of making me feel really restless and agitated.

I agree a separate thread on work ergonomics may be in order, not excluding the need for places to discreetly hang our cycling gear...

"Oh no you di-idn't..."

I wear these all day, even on days when I don't ride. They're not "serious" cycling shoes, as they're not stiff, but I like them. I also like them on the bike. I get painful numbness in my feet from stiff shoes, so the flexibility is a plus for me. I use pedals that take the cleat on only one side. When my feet start hurting, I switch to the uncleated side of the pedals, and I place my feet in varying positions.

https://www.rei.com/product/810725/pe...9-001b2166c62d

I just bought these and love them. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 . My previous shoes were the Shimano MTB version, but while they were capable and durable, they were also heavy and clunky. The new shoes are much lighter, the fit is pleasantly more snug without being constricting, and they walk just fine. I also stand at my desk and spent half the day yesterday in my bike shoes just for kicks. i am right at a size 10, normal width and the 44 fits me perfect. I also bought a 44 in the MTB shoes and the fit was much looser, that's not a bad thing though as I consider those my winter shoes and wear thicker socks with them.

Vittoria 1976's

I have red ones.

Careful to snug the cleat on firmly, once it starts sliding forget it, they're back to using toe clips.

Most days I use the Keen Austin. They are heavy and clunky and take a bit of getting used to but if you don't have to walk alot, they're fine. I would describe the style a business casual kind of thing, not necessarily good looking with jeans depending on your tastes.

Soon I will be wearing SPD sandals almost exclusively.

I'm getting these DZR's

I found Shimano SPD shoes on Nashbar that wall pretty well. Bought them first because they had them in EU sized 52 (US 15.5 to 16, or so) then found they are fairly comfy to walk in. Cleat doesn't hit the floor. They snap on the pedal nicely also.

BTW: You are getting into the season where most shoes are beginning to be sold out in some more popular sizes, so you need to get on with the buying stage. Time to really shop for bike shoes is in January.

My favorite toe clip touring shoes fit like Penny Loafers, because they are stiff
my heels come up as I walk..

but comfy insoles and adequate blood circulation and no pinched nerves ,
riding all day at my modest pace is fine..

I ended up getting Shimano mt33 and I also switched to a standing workstation at work a few weeks ago. Most days I wear the mt33 all day and stand 95% of the time and I'm comfortable. They are stiff shoes. Sometimes I switch to Sanuk after lunch