Kitty litter ponderings at the grocery store.
#52
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How in the world did I miss this thread?
I went the Tidy Cat route, but got the buckets from a neighbor. Unfortunately he had no lids. I only made one into a pannier for now as I only had one set of hooks laying around from an old pannier that fell apart. But I am still looking for a lid, as this bucket is the sturdiest piece of luggage I have ever owned, bicycle or otherwise.
I went the Tidy Cat route, but got the buckets from a neighbor. Unfortunately he had no lids. I only made one into a pannier for now as I only had one set of hooks laying around from an old pannier that fell apart. But I am still looking for a lid, as this bucket is the sturdiest piece of luggage I have ever owned, bicycle or otherwise.
https://www.affordablebuckets.com/4galpails.html
I didn't have an easy source for the buckets themselves and was happy to pay a little for the buckets to get bright orange ones without anything other than the obligatory safety (don't let your baby drown in it!) markings painted on it. Those'll eventually get covered up by reflective paint anyway or oriented to the inside (towards the wheel).
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The place I ordered buckets from online, also sells just the lids. They're listed as being only $1.36 each, but IIRC, shipping about doubles their price. Nice folks:
https://www.affordablebuckets.com/4galpails.html
I didn't have an easy source for the buckets themselves and was happy to pay a little for the buckets to get bright orange ones without anything other than the obligatory safety (don't let your baby drown in it!) markings painted on it. Those'll eventually get covered up by reflective paint anyway or oriented to the inside (towards the wheel).
https://www.affordablebuckets.com/4galpails.html
I didn't have an easy source for the buckets themselves and was happy to pay a little for the buckets to get bright orange ones without anything other than the obligatory safety (don't let your baby drown in it!) markings painted on it. Those'll eventually get covered up by reflective paint anyway or oriented to the inside (towards the wheel).
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2006 Trek SU100, 2009 Motobecane Fantom CX, 2011 Motobecane Fantom Cross Uno, and a Bakfiets
Previously: 2000 Trek 4500 (2000-2003), 2003 Novara Randonee (2003-2006), 2003 Giant Rainier (2003-2008), 2005 Xootr Swift (2005-2007), 2007 Nashbar 1x9 (2007-2011), 2011 Windsor Shetland (2011-2014), 2008 Citizen Folder (2015)
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2006 Trek SU100, 2009 Motobecane Fantom CX, 2011 Motobecane Fantom Cross Uno, and a Bakfiets
Previously: 2000 Trek 4500 (2000-2003), 2003 Novara Randonee (2003-2006), 2003 Giant Rainier (2003-2008), 2005 Xootr Swift (2005-2007), 2007 Nashbar 1x9 (2007-2011), 2011 Windsor Shetland (2011-2014), 2008 Citizen Folder (2015)
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My wonderful wife found someone putting a Tidy Cats bucket in their recycling the other day-- lid and all. So she asked politely and took it. So I finally have a lid for mine. 
Of course, I could have used the whole bucket, but then I'd have to get all new stickers. So I put the lid on the old one and kept the bucket for potential future purposes.

Of course, I could have used the whole bucket, but then I'd have to get all new stickers. So I put the lid on the old one and kept the bucket for potential future purposes.
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2006 Trek SU100, 2009 Motobecane Fantom CX, 2011 Motobecane Fantom Cross Uno, and a Bakfiets
Previously: 2000 Trek 4500 (2000-2003), 2003 Novara Randonee (2003-2006), 2003 Giant Rainier (2003-2008), 2005 Xootr Swift (2005-2007), 2007 Nashbar 1x9 (2007-2011), 2011 Windsor Shetland (2011-2014), 2008 Citizen Folder (2015)
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--Ben
2006 Trek SU100, 2009 Motobecane Fantom CX, 2011 Motobecane Fantom Cross Uno, and a Bakfiets
Previously: 2000 Trek 4500 (2000-2003), 2003 Novara Randonee (2003-2006), 2003 Giant Rainier (2003-2008), 2005 Xootr Swift (2005-2007), 2007 Nashbar 1x9 (2007-2011), 2011 Windsor Shetland (2011-2014), 2008 Citizen Folder (2015)
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My wonderful wife found someone putting a Tidy Cats bucket in their recycling the other day-- lid and all. So she asked politely and took it. So I finally have a lid for mine. 
Of course, I could have used the whole bucket, but then I'd have to get all new stickers. So I put the lid on the old one and kept the bucket for potential future purposes.

Of course, I could have used the whole bucket, but then I'd have to get all new stickers. So I put the lid on the old one and kept the bucket for potential future purposes.

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Well, then, I would have two and only one lid. What then? I also don't need that much room most of the time.
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--Ben
2006 Trek SU100, 2009 Motobecane Fantom CX, 2011 Motobecane Fantom Cross Uno, and a Bakfiets
Previously: 2000 Trek 4500 (2000-2003), 2003 Novara Randonee (2003-2006), 2003 Giant Rainier (2003-2008), 2005 Xootr Swift (2005-2007), 2007 Nashbar 1x9 (2007-2011), 2011 Windsor Shetland (2011-2014), 2008 Citizen Folder (2015)
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It also occurs to me that if I had two, I might be too wide for some of the roads around here. Touring, I might need the room and not care about the width. Downtown Carrboro... hrmmm... yeah.
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2006 Trek SU100, 2009 Motobecane Fantom CX, 2011 Motobecane Fantom Cross Uno, and a Bakfiets
Previously: 2000 Trek 4500 (2000-2003), 2003 Novara Randonee (2003-2006), 2003 Giant Rainier (2003-2008), 2005 Xootr Swift (2005-2007), 2007 Nashbar 1x9 (2007-2011), 2011 Windsor Shetland (2011-2014), 2008 Citizen Folder (2015)
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We have three male cats (2 BIG, 1 regular); resulting in lots of Tidy cat buckets.
Uses:
* panniers - the buckets are strong enough to need minimal supporting hardware - you can put some angle brackets on the bottom (front end to reduce chance of heel strikes) to attach to the rear dropouts, then sliding bar straps (Avenir long) near the top to attach to the upper mount and a cross brace between the two buckets.
* storage - I arrange my parts by project, label the bucket with a Sharpie®; handle bars, forks and frames are about the only thing that will not fit - and they are stack able.
Uses:
* panniers - the buckets are strong enough to need minimal supporting hardware - you can put some angle brackets on the bottom (front end to reduce chance of heel strikes) to attach to the rear dropouts, then sliding bar straps (Avenir long) near the top to attach to the upper mount and a cross brace between the two buckets.
* storage - I arrange my parts by project, label the bucket with a Sharpie®; handle bars, forks and frames are about the only thing that will not fit - and they are stack able.
#65
I made two pairs of bucket for panniers for me and a buddy to ride the KATY trail last year. They look good and worked great.
I bought the buckets from affordablebuckets.com. Mine are Black which goes well with my Black Specialized Globe City 8 commuter while my Buddy's were gray to go with is his Trek 7.2. Got the idea from this link: https://www.instructables.com/id/Black-Bucket-Panniers/ and the GOAB article.
I modified the design a little. I used Red and White DOT reflective tape from Walmart to cover up the printed warning label and to act as rear reflectors. Instead of adding a strap and drilling holes in the back of the bucket, I kept the handles for carrying the buckets. I used ball bungies attached to the handle to wrap under the buckets on the outside of the rack and clipped to the bottom of the rack under the bucket. The bungie holds the buckets tight to the rack. I first used the pannier clips from Jannd but the buckets would sometimes bounce off the racks so I switched them out for full closing panniers clips from Lone Peak. I also added a 1 1/2 wide piece of alumimun bar inside the bucket to strengthen the plasitic were the clips attached. The Buckets are now rock solid.
What I liked best about the Bucket Panniers:
They are Waterproof. Hold a lot of gear - one bucket held: sleeping bag, pad, stuff sack with down vest as a pillow, and a few misc items in plastic bags - total weight around 11 lbs. Other bucket held clothes, rain jacket, snacks, etc.. weighted around 10.5 lbs. We used a small water proof sack for our tents which we strapped down parallel on our racks between the buckets. No front panniers. We also used them as stools on the trail to fix a flat and around camp. Best of all, they cleaned up easy from all the KATY trail dust. Just wiped them down - good as new. Now I use them as grocery haulers - work great for that task too.
They do catch the wind but I doubt if it is much more than regular full panniers. And of course, being buckets, the item you are looking for is always at the bottom of the bucket!
I bought the buckets from affordablebuckets.com. Mine are Black which goes well with my Black Specialized Globe City 8 commuter while my Buddy's were gray to go with is his Trek 7.2. Got the idea from this link: https://www.instructables.com/id/Black-Bucket-Panniers/ and the GOAB article.
I modified the design a little. I used Red and White DOT reflective tape from Walmart to cover up the printed warning label and to act as rear reflectors. Instead of adding a strap and drilling holes in the back of the bucket, I kept the handles for carrying the buckets. I used ball bungies attached to the handle to wrap under the buckets on the outside of the rack and clipped to the bottom of the rack under the bucket. The bungie holds the buckets tight to the rack. I first used the pannier clips from Jannd but the buckets would sometimes bounce off the racks so I switched them out for full closing panniers clips from Lone Peak. I also added a 1 1/2 wide piece of alumimun bar inside the bucket to strengthen the plasitic were the clips attached. The Buckets are now rock solid.
What I liked best about the Bucket Panniers:
They are Waterproof. Hold a lot of gear - one bucket held: sleeping bag, pad, stuff sack with down vest as a pillow, and a few misc items in plastic bags - total weight around 11 lbs. Other bucket held clothes, rain jacket, snacks, etc.. weighted around 10.5 lbs. We used a small water proof sack for our tents which we strapped down parallel on our racks between the buckets. No front panniers. We also used them as stools on the trail to fix a flat and around camp. Best of all, they cleaned up easy from all the KATY trail dust. Just wiped them down - good as new. Now I use them as grocery haulers - work great for that task too.
They do catch the wind but I doubt if it is much more than regular full panniers. And of course, being buckets, the item you are looking for is always at the bottom of the bucket!
#68
Someone should make a rear rack with a "foot" at the bottom and strap slots to accommodate those buckets. Or is it required to acquire the rack, bike, and everything else from a landfill too?
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I don't have that one, but I've got the front version of it. It is hard to make out in the pictures there, but of you scroll through to the 5th one you can see a tab extending below the rack. This actually has a small post on it with a mushroom head that is great for attaching bungee panniers to. Works great with the drop down panniers on my trunk bag which use a small looped shock cord.
I'm sure I've seen a few other racks that have decent ways to attach bungees, but if you take a look at the one I linked to it is about the Swiss Army knife of attaching panniers. Pricey though.






