Returned from Japan/Korea holiday and ...
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Returned from Japan/Korea holiday and ...
Just got back from a 1month holiday in Japan/Korea and have a few interesting perspectives compared to cycling in Sweden/Germany (moving to England in a few months).
in Japan:
pros:
lots of bikes (from a euro-perspective)
lots of neat bikes (different wheel diameters on the same bike as an example)
lots of folders
lots of cool adaptations (kickstands, umbrella holders) compared to eurobikes
very polite riders
cons:
not many dedicated bike lanes in the larger cities (compared to Europe)
need to watch all of the time on all sidewalks for bikes
in Korea:
pros:
lots of neat bikes that are quite cheap and look to be of OK quality (from €50 or so new)
cons:
not so many bikes from a euro-perspective
traffic is a total mess in Seoul
need to watch out for mopeds/minibikes/motorcycles on the side in the middle of markets
felt safer crossing the street on sidewalks in Bangkok, Phnom Peng and Hanoi than in Seoul (in Seoul drivers often runs the reds and honk at the peds when they cross on green ... first time I've seen this in Asia)
whomever on BF said that dealing with bus drivers in Incheon is a hassle is totally correct (horrible driver manners)
in Japan:
pros:
lots of bikes (from a euro-perspective)
lots of neat bikes (different wheel diameters on the same bike as an example)
lots of folders
lots of cool adaptations (kickstands, umbrella holders) compared to eurobikes
very polite riders
cons:
not many dedicated bike lanes in the larger cities (compared to Europe)
need to watch all of the time on all sidewalks for bikes
in Korea:
pros:
lots of neat bikes that are quite cheap and look to be of OK quality (from €50 or so new)
cons:
not so many bikes from a euro-perspective
traffic is a total mess in Seoul
need to watch out for mopeds/minibikes/motorcycles on the side in the middle of markets
felt safer crossing the street on sidewalks in Bangkok, Phnom Peng and Hanoi than in Seoul (in Seoul drivers often runs the reds and honk at the peds when they cross on green ... first time I've seen this in Asia)
whomever on BF said that dealing with bus drivers in Incheon is a hassle is totally correct (horrible driver manners)
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From: Yokohama, Japan
I feel safer burning up the side of the outside lane and splitting cars here in Yokohama/Tokyo than I did trucking down the dedicated bike lanes in The States.
Japan:
Many Moma-charies
Many electric assist bikes
Many full squish folders
many slow people on bicycles on the sidewalk
Many pedestrians who do not see bicycles, but cars that
You have "people on bicycles", and you have "cyclists". There is a huge difference.
Japan:
Many Moma-charies
Many electric assist bikes
Many full squish folders
many slow people on bicycles on the sidewalk
Many pedestrians who do not see bicycles, but cars that
You have "people on bicycles", and you have "cyclists". There is a huge difference.
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From: Incheon, South Korea
Bikes: Nothing amazing... cheap old 21 speed mtb
whomever on BF said that dealing with bus drivers in Incheon is a hassle is totally correct (horrible driver manners)
Get out on the country roads with a decent shoulder though... very nice.
Do watch out for black ice in the winter though. Skating is not fun!
Last edited by krobinson103; 06-11-13 at 07:57 AM.
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