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#26
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From: Prince Albert, SK - Canada
Bikes: 1993 Trek 520 Touring, 2009 Globe SF 2, 2011 Giant Dash 3, 2011 GT Traffic 3.0, 2011 GT Traffic 5.0, 2012 GT Aggressor 3.0, 2014 Surface 604 Element
It is North American mentality at its worst - they just don't seriously consider cycling anything other than sport.
In addition to commuting, we try to do most of our shopping and errands by bike. I've made a utility bike from a 20 year heavy duty old steel framed 26" wheel 21 speed. Front rack/basket, rear rack/large basket & collapsable rear side baskets. Our friends think this is crazy - one person said I looked "homeless" and they all ask "WHY?" Or they suggest that its not going to save much on gas, as our big box shopping district is only 6 blocks away and my reply "Exactly - makes it perfect for biking to shop!"
In addition to commuting, we try to do most of our shopping and errands by bike. I've made a utility bike from a 20 year heavy duty old steel framed 26" wheel 21 speed. Front rack/basket, rear rack/large basket & collapsable rear side baskets. Our friends think this is crazy - one person said I looked "homeless" and they all ask "WHY?" Or they suggest that its not going to save much on gas, as our big box shopping district is only 6 blocks away and my reply "Exactly - makes it perfect for biking to shop!"
#28
I'm not sure where to find reliable statistics.
Keep in mind that I'm living just outside Portland, the bicycling Mecca of the United States, so you're going to be green with envy over these numbers, right?
Here's what I found on city-data.com (though the data is from 2008):
Drove alone: 74.8%
Carpooled: 10.4%
Public transit: 4.2%
Bicycle: 2.3%
Walked: 3.4%
Other means: 0.6%
That's right, almost as many people bike to work here as walk to work! Also, if you add in the number of people who are unemployed (on the assumption that they're likely to walk and bike a lot), we'd be well over 10%.
So, yeah, we're smug about our environmentalism here in Oregon.
Keep in mind that I'm living just outside Portland, the bicycling Mecca of the United States, so you're going to be green with envy over these numbers, right?
Here's what I found on city-data.com (though the data is from 2008):
Drove alone: 74.8%
Carpooled: 10.4%
Public transit: 4.2%
Bicycle: 2.3%
Walked: 3.4%
Other means: 0.6%
That's right, almost as many people bike to work here as walk to work! Also, if you add in the number of people who are unemployed (on the assumption that they're likely to walk and bike a lot), we'd be well over 10%.
So, yeah, we're smug about our environmentalism here in Oregon.
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Here's what I found on city-data.com (though the data is from 2008):
Drove alone: 74.8%
Carpooled: 10.4%
Public transit: 4.2%
Bicycle: 2.3%
Walked: 3.4%
Other means: 0.6%
That's right, almost as many people bike to work here as walk to work! Also, if you add in the number of people who are unemployed (on the assumption that they're likely to walk and bike a lot), we'd be well over 10%.
So, yeah, we're smug about our environmentalism here in Oregon.
Drove alone: 74.8%
Carpooled: 10.4%
Public transit: 4.2%
Bicycle: 2.3%
Walked: 3.4%
Other means: 0.6%
That's right, almost as many people bike to work here as walk to work! Also, if you add in the number of people who are unemployed (on the assumption that they're likely to walk and bike a lot), we'd be well over 10%.
So, yeah, we're smug about our environmentalism here in Oregon.
#30
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From: Raleigh, NC
Bikes: Waterford RST-22, Bob Jackson World Tour, Ritchey Breakaway Cross, Soma Saga, De Bernardi SL, Specialized Sequoia
I live in the Triangle of NC and I have to believe we would beat the average. Our Research Park is home to a ton a big tech and engineering firms, and engineers run on efficiency, so I see tons of them riding into work in the mornings. There are also a ton of of guys riding into work in downtown Durham and Raleigh due to lack of parking. 114,000 college students adds to that as well.
#31
Not sure you should be so smug... your "Driving alone" + "Carpool" is more than Edmonton's Driving stats (which includes both alone and carpool), and your walking + cycling is only 0.5% greater than Edmonton's. And even though you have 2X as many cyclists, Edmonton has over 2X your transit usage. Very interesting.
The American Fact Finder site puts our bicycling share at 0.9-1.5%. It's sad really. If that number is right, the percentage of people living below the poverty level in Beaverton is nearly 10 times the percentage of people who bike to work. What does that say about us?!
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#33
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From: Hammond, La
Bikes: Wabi Lightning RE, Wabi Classic
#34
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From: Cary, NC
Bikes: 73 Schwinn Super Sport, 87 Schwinn Sprint, 88 GT Outpost, 2013 Fuji Touring
I probably just live in the best part of the triangle for commuting. I lived in Chapel Hill / Carrboro for 4 years while in school where everyone rides a bike or a bus, and now i live near RTP and cycling is a good option for folks who work at nice campuses such as SAS or IBM. I don't know how it would compare to the masses driving though.
#35
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From: Eugene, Oregon
My city has fallen from 10.8% bike commuters in 2009 to 7.3% in 2011. Are there any other cities in America that have had a decline in bike usage over the past few years? (And does anyone know when do the 2012 numbers come out?) However, in my local neighborhood, we have 20% bike commuters, 20% bus commuters (six times the city average), 15% walkers and only 45% using their cars.
The bad news is that the people living in the suburbs are nearly all single occupancy car folks. So, even if my entire city got switched over to bikes, our streets would still be dominated, as in the majority of the people, by cars.
The bad news is that the people living in the suburbs are nearly all single occupancy car folks. So, even if my entire city got switched over to bikes, our streets would still be dominated, as in the majority of the people, by cars.
#36
George Krpan
Joined: Jan 2007
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From: Westlake Village, California
Wikipedia says that 0.6% bike commute in Los Angeles as of 2006. That's pathetic considering our weather.
I rarely see anyone commuting here. Mostly I see lycra clad geeks. (That's for you Joey.)
I rarely see anyone commuting here. Mostly I see lycra clad geeks. (That's for you Joey.)
#38
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From: Seattle, WA
Bikes: BH RC1, Bianchi Volpe, Orbea Avant
In Seattle we have gone from 1.5% to 3.7% in the last 22 years. Yikes, that's some slow growth, but it's growth none-the-less. We have these cool bike counters on a couple of our bridges so you can actually see trending.
Spokane Street Bridge: https://www.seattle.gov/transportatio...er_spokane.htm
Fremont Bridge: https://www.seattle.gov/transportatio...er_fremont.htm
Spokane Street Bridge: https://www.seattle.gov/transportatio...er_spokane.htm
Fremont Bridge: https://www.seattle.gov/transportatio...er_fremont.htm
#39
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From: Toronto
Bikes: 1984 Trek 520; 2007 Bike Friday NWT; misc others
As a society we have developed policies and incentives that favour car drivers, and thus promote sprawl, smog and other pollution, gridlock, traumatic deaths, social stress, waste, higher taxes, land degradation, and and poor population health. So Walter S is right (as we all should be) to be embarrassed that more of us aren't cycling. We all should be promoting or advocating for cycling (or walking or using public transit) in one way or another, for our own and the common good.
#40
a.k.a., Point Five Dude
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From: Twin Cites, MN USA
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GT, It sounds like you are already doing the most important kind of advocacy & promotion there is - getting your family out on your bikes and using them. Actions speak louder than words.
#41
In Seattle we have gone from 1.5% to 3.7% in the last 22 years. Yikes, that's some slow growth, but it's growth none-the-less. We have these cool bike counters on a couple of our bridges so you can actually see trending.
Spokane Street Bridge: https://www.seattle.gov/transportatio...er_spokane.htm
Fremont Bridge: https://www.seattle.gov/transportatio...er_fremont.htm
Spokane Street Bridge: https://www.seattle.gov/transportatio...er_spokane.htm
Fremont Bridge: https://www.seattle.gov/transportatio...er_fremont.htm
https://portland-hawthorne-bridge.visio-tools.com/
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#42
a.k.a., Point Five Dude
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From: Twin Cites, MN USA
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I don't think for a second that we as a society are going to willingly turn away from the automobile culture that we have so completely embraced. We're like monkeys with our hands stuck in the trap because we cannot let go of the shiny object. Sooner or later it's all going to have to fall in on itself.
I'm not sure what you precisely mean by promoting and advocating - I will most likely never join a political action group or attend a critical mass ride, but I do make a point of getting out on my bike and using it. To me, actions speaking louder than words. If just one other overweight middle aged guy passes me on his way to or from work and thinks to himself, "If that fat bastard can do it then so can I!" and extends his life in the process, then I have done my job. We'll never know how many people if any we touch that way.
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George Krpan
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From: Westlake Village, California
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From: Michigan
Bikes: Windsor Fens, Giant Seek 0 (2014, Alfine 8 + discs)
I couldn't find the same level of detailed information about the various methods of commuting, but according to Wikipedia which cited a 2011 American Community Survey, Ann Arbor has the 17th highest percentage of cycling commuters at 4.9%.
Kinda sad that just 4.9% earns 17th place in the US.
Kinda sad that just 4.9% earns 17th place in the US.
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From: Prince Albert, SK - Canada
Bikes: 1993 Trek 520 Touring, 2009 Globe SF 2, 2011 Giant Dash 3, 2011 GT Traffic 3.0, 2011 GT Traffic 5.0, 2012 GT Aggressor 3.0, 2014 Surface 604 Element
It's actually worse than that. When a motorist sees you they don't think that you're an athlete, they think that you are a grownup playing on a child's toy in the street instead of the sidewalk where you 'belong.'
GT, It sounds like you are already doing the most important kind of advocacy & promotion there is - getting your family out on your bikes and using them. Actions speak louder than words.
GT, It sounds like you are already doing the most important kind of advocacy & promotion there is - getting your family out on your bikes and using them. Actions speak louder than words.
I also believe that many younger (under 40) people have no sense of value or inflation - With current Canadian gas prices around $6.00/gallon and vehicles selling for double or triple what my first house cost. My calculations over the past year prove that savings on gas has paid for a few new bikes; with added health benefits and lower vehicle maintenance.
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Prefers Cicero

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From: Toronto
Bikes: 1984 Trek 520; 2007 Bike Friday NWT; misc others
#49
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From: Carson City, NV
Bikes: Schwinn Trailwise, Surly Pugsley
I see commuting cyclists and walkers all the time in my rather small town. I went over to Factfinder and it turns out that 3.6% of Carson City walks to work, and 3.3% use other means than public transportation. Pretty good for a town of around 60,000!






