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Old 01-20-14 | 12:54 PM
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Anybody try one of these?

https://www.amazon.com/Convertible-St...ts+bottles+hot

The reviews on Amazon lead me to believe it is a good bottle for keeping coffee hot on my ride in. I make the coffee at home, and have been using one of those 7-Eleven refillable cups, but I get to work and it is only luke warm at best, and there is enough leakage around the spout that it makes a mess of my lower seat tube and chain stays. My question is; will this thing fit a bottle cage? The amazon reviews all speak well of its insulation, but none mention using it on a bike.
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I use one of those thermos-like things from Starbucks. My wife got it for me so I don't know what it cost but it fits perfectly into my seat tube bottle cage. My commute is about 35 min. and it keeps my coffee fairly warm (certainly not hot) for that long.

Plus, I live in SoCal so it never gets super cold here. Oh, wait, you do too, so you know how that is!

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Old 01-20-14 | 03:09 PM
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looks like a rebadged Kleen Kanteen product .. They have their own Bottle cage of Nylon for those ..

QBP stocks them ..
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From the product description: "Diameter(mouth/bottom): 2 inches / 2.75 inches"

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Originally Posted by fietsbob
looks like a rebadged Kleen Kanteen product .. They have their own Bottle cage of Nylon for those ..

QBP stocks them ..
+1

i also have a few sigg bottles
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Old 01-20-14 | 08:14 PM
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got a double wall Zefal Bottle, years ago .. but made of Aluminum it is kind of a volume reduction ,

since the metal transports the heat so well but hey it's Lighter
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Originally Posted by Rick@OCRR
I use one of those thermos-like things from Starbucks. My wife got it for me so I don't know what it cost but it fits perfectly into my seat tube bottle cage. My commute is about 35 min. and it keeps my coffee fairly warm (certainly not hot) for that long.

Plus, I live in SoCal so it never gets super cold here. Oh, wait, you do too, so you know how that is!

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I stopped by starbuck on my way in and looked at one of those. It didn't appear to be a vacuum bottle like the kanagroo thing in the link at top. I really am looking for something that will keep the stuff inside hot for 20-45 minutes of 40 degree air cooling at 15-20 mph. Those Starbucks ones don't look that much better insulated than the 7-Eleven cup I've been using. They look like they wouldn't leak less. I would use the steel flask with the solid screw cap. I'm pretty decided on getting it. For twenty + bucks I hope it's good. I'll report back

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got a double wall Zefal Bottle, years ago .. but made of Aluminum it is kind of a volume reduction ,

since the metal transports the heat so well but hey it's Lighter
I'm not too concerned about the weight since I can still drop the weight of twenty of those things off my own arse.
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Old 01-21-14 | 03:24 AM
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I've been using this, https://www.hydroflask.com/products/h...er-bottle-18oz and the narrow mouth version for over two years. I only had to replace the wide mouth cap because the sip-lid thing somehow broke off when I threw it in the back of car. It was time for a new one. Although it still didn't leak after a year and a half of daily commuting use, I did have to make sure it was twisted on tight. It fits perfectly in a bottle cage, but you'll want to make sure the cage is tight or has rubber to grip the metal of the flask. As far as it's primary job it is the best I've ever used. Hot stays hot for a good 5 hours, ice cubes and water even longer. The outside temps don't seem to matter much because I've commuted in the 20's and still the same nice and hot coffee at work. Cheers
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Old 01-21-14 | 08:07 AM
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I've been using this, https://www.hydroflask.com/products/h...er-bottle-18oz and the narrow mouth version for over two years. I only had to replace the wide mouth cap because the sip-lid thing somehow broke off when I threw it in the back of car. It was time for a new one. Although it still didn't leak after a year and a half of daily commuting use, I did have to make sure it was twisted on tight. It fits perfectly in a bottle cage, but you'll want to make sure the cage is tight or has rubber to grip the metal of the flask. As far as it's primary job it is the best I've ever used. Hot stays hot for a good 5 hours, ice cubes and water even longer. The outside temps don't seem to matter much because I've commuted in the 20's and still the same nice and hot coffee at work. Cheers
I agree. The product looks like a generic Hydroflask. I have both Hydroflasks and Kleen Kanteen (Insulated) and I can confirm that they both fit PERFECTLY in a waterbottle cage. The trick is to get a cage without the "nubbin"at the top to hold the bottle in. A good example is the Tacx Tao
or the less expensive Planet Bike "Button" cage. The Tacx is the one I have; it is made from Aluminum and holds very well. There are others that would work as well, but if the fit is a little loose (not a problem with the Tacx) you might mount them on the seat tube just to be safe.

My cage is mounted as low as possible, so I can fit the 12oz Kleen Cantten Insulated, or the taller 18oz Hydroflask:

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Old 01-21-14 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
looks like a rebadged Kleen Kanteen product .. They have their own Bottle cage of Nylon for those ..

QBP stocks them ..
The Kleen Kanteen cage is only for the narrower uninsulated bottle. The bottle shown will fit in a standard bottle cage.
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Old 01-21-14 | 10:25 AM
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Got diameter numbers? for comparison, data helps.
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Old 01-21-14 | 11:03 AM
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Got diameter numbers? for comparison, data helps.
The Klean Kanteen Insulated and Hydroflasks are 2-7/8" or 2.875", same as a standard bike water bottle.

The uninsulated Klean Kanteen is 2.75", and definitely rattles around in a standard cage.
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Old 01-21-14 | 11:12 AM
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I have used to options both which keep my coffee hot well. I tend to put it in my bag instead of a bottle holder - adds another level of insulation as well.

1) a Kleen Kanteen insulated bottle (i have both a spill proof lid and a "drinking" lid for it)

2) A Contigo coffee mug - I generally swear by these for travel, etc. For biking I use on of the newer ones with the locking button to avoid accidental spills - I even frequently through it in my bag without worrying about it
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I use an older Thermos Thermax vacuum bottle that is no longer listed on their website. It's designed to fit into a standard automotive cupholder, and fits snugly (if that's a word) in either of my water bottle cages. It keeps my coffee pipping hot for hours in the cold, and was one of the products recommended here a few years ago during the yearly "what should I carry my coffee" in discussions.

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My wife uses a bottle like that, because she doesn't want to drink from plastic bottles. (I don't blame her.) She uses a cage with a rubber strap that opens on the side, because her top tube is so close to the down tube. It works well for her.

The stainless steel is likely to hold heat better than plastic, but there's no way to say if it will be enough. Being out there on the frame out in the cold makes it unlikely. You might want to store it in a warmer but less convenient place.
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Old 01-21-14 | 01:56 PM
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I use an insulated 20oz Klean Kanteen for coffee, and a 21oz Hydroflask with a Klean Kanteen Sport Cap 3.0 for water. I use them every day. Both fit fine in a standard bottle cage. The only downside is that they get scratched up by the steel cage.

The Packaroo looks like a rebranded HydroFlask, with a different top.
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Old 01-21-14 | 03:24 PM
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The Packaroo looks like a rebranded HydroFlask, with a different top.
Yep. I looked at several of the other links and saw that. The Packaroo is a couple of bucks cheaper on amazon, so I'm going widdit.
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I stopped by starbuck on my way in and looked at one of those. It didn't appear to be a vacuum bottle like the kanagroo thing in the link at top.
starbucks has very high quality stainless steel vaccum-sealed mugs in the fall but they often sell out. i bought 2 over a decade ago and they are both still in use despite a few falls at speed. my only problem with steel coffee mugs has been that conventional bottle cages tend to loosen or snap from the abuse.

i've found that these cages work the best and last the longest when you ride with heavy metal bottles:

https://www.lezyne.com/en/products/bo...es#!power-cage
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Generically metal bottle rattles less in a plastic cage , & use plastic bottles for Metal cages ..
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Yep. I looked at several of the other links and saw that. The Packaroo is a couple of bucks cheaper on amazon, so I'm going widdit.
I'm interested in one of these so let us know how it works out, wouldja?
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Yep. I looked at several of the other links and saw that. The Packaroo is a couple of bucks cheaper on amazon, so I'm going widdit.
If the dimensions are correct, it is going to rattle around in a standard cage. The dimensions on the packaroo show 2.75" diameter vs 2.875" for a standard bottle/cage. I do not think that this is a rebranded Hydroflask, but if it is, then the posted dimensions are wrong.
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Old 01-22-14 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
Generically metal bottle rattles less in a plastic cage , & use plastic bottles for Metal cages ..
I have these on my bikes. https://www.pricepoint.com/Brand/Prof...FQmCfgodIU0A1w .They're cheap, but they work. I had one shatter when I dropped the bike and it impacted on something hard. I replaced it with another just like it, and just try not to drop the bike. They could make them from a glass filled polycarbonate and it would make them a lot more impact resistant, and only add a buck to the cost. Carbon Fiber is over kill, and would work better for me at lightening my wallet, than lightening the bike.
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I have an insulated coffee/hot drink container called a Bubba Bottle that fits well in a bottle cage. It works fine at keeping drinks hot during my commute but I don't use it much because it's hard to drink coffee unless you are stopped at a traffic light for a long enough time. Also, drinking coffee makes me sweat more unless it's really cold out. When I carry coffee in my Bubba Bottle, I usually arrive at work with a nearly full bottle, so it's hardly worth the extra weight. Most of the time, I drink a couple of cups at home and then a couple more once I get to work.
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I have an insulated coffee/hot drink container called a Bubba Bottle that fits well in a bottle cage. It works fine at keeping drinks hot during my commute but I don't use it much because it's hard to drink coffee unless you are stopped at a traffic light for a long enough time. Also, drinking coffee makes me sweat more unless it's really cold out. When I carry coffee in my Bubba Bottle, I usually arrive at work with a nearly full bottle, so it's hardly worth the extra weight. Most of the time, I drink a couple of cups at home and then a couple more once I get to work.
My MO is ride to the train station and hit a 7-Eleven on the way for a fill up. Drink it in the train. From train to work there is a Starbucks along the way. Refill, then drink at work. I like the idea of the screw cap because I can think of all kinds of reasons that drinking hot coffee while riding could be a bad idea. I would like to make it at home, ride all the way to the train, skipping the 7-Eleven, and still have the coffee be hot when I get there.

This will not do it.

And it only fits the bottle cage OK.

EDIT. What I currently do is put skim milk in the cup at home, since 7-Eleven only has milk/cream-like substances. (Some have real whole milk, but not the one I pass on the way in.)
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Originally Posted by CommuteCommando
https://www.amazon.com/Convertible-St...ts+bottles+hot

The reviews on Amazon lead me to believe it is a good bottle for keeping coffee hot on my ride in. I make the coffee at home, and have been using one of those 7-Eleven refillable cups, but I get to work and it is only luke warm at best, and there is enough leakage around the spout that it makes a mess of my lower seat tube and chain stays. My question is; will this thing fit a bottle cage? The amazon reviews all speak well of its insulation, but none mention using it on a bike.
Contigo anyone?

https://www.amazon.com/Contigo-AUTOSE...ywords=Contigo
Stainless steel, double walled vacuum bottle. It is MADE for coffee - spill proof. It is the only thing I can use on my 2+ hour winter commutes. Tested this winter on the coldest day in 20 yrs - 2.75 hour ride in -14°F temps - my tea was not hot after 2.5 hrs, but it was still liquid, and probably above room temp. These are great mugs, for biking and/or anything else. A coffee drinkers best friend.

Edit: it fits great in any waterbottle cage, without rattling.

Edit 2: Costco usually seems to have them in stock.

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