Thoughts On Claris?
#26
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I'm running Claris 3 x 8 on my 1993 Bridgestone XO-2. The stuff works very well and it has taken a beating. Plus it shifts well over a non-shimano triple; no complaints here.
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I used Claris 2x8. STIs. Derailleurs were of the next class - Sora.
2x8 system is a very forgiving one. Shifting was more "crisp", precise, then the previous 105 3x10 system I used! STI ergonomy was better. And it was cheap. Less sensitive to dirty cables and housing.
Had two hard crashes - so scratch marks on STIs, but no damage, still worked well. Went through winter, mud, dust, sunshine.
I'd give it a very good mark. Wouldn't look any further.
2x8 system is a very forgiving one. Shifting was more "crisp", precise, then the previous 105 3x10 system I used! STI ergonomy was better. And it was cheap. Less sensitive to dirty cables and housing.
Had two hard crashes - so scratch marks on STIs, but no damage, still worked well. Went through winter, mud, dust, sunshine.
I'd give it a very good mark. Wouldn't look any further.
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Here is the latest Sora on sale at Jenson USA: Shimano Sora ST-3500 STI Levers > Components > Drivetrain > Road Shifters | Jenson USA Note the button?
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[MENTION=205284]rekmeyata[/MENTION] You can see the cable release thumb buttons hanging down like beagle ears in this photo of the 3400 shifters, below and behind the cable output. (photo from Chain Reaction). These don't have the release lever behind the brake lever like the 3500. What you see as a button on the 3500 shifter, is actually the output for the shifter cable, which on the 3500 also has a barrel adjuster, making it look big. The new Sora R3000 has aero shifter cables and nothing hanging off.
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I'm not sure which version of Claris and 105 you've tried but both of mine are 3 years old and the 105 is clearly much better then Claris in shifting crispness, precision, smoothness, and stopping...but stopping is probably an issue with the Claris pads. My wife has the 3x8 while my 105 is 2x10, but the rear shifting on the 105 is superior as is the front shifting but that could be due to hers having the triple system but I think even if it was a double it wouldn't shift quite as well. I keep my bikes clean so I can't report on the dirty cable and housing thing, but after 3 seasons neither are experiencing any odd sensitivity issues. Even my original cables and chains on both bikes, with my 105 having over 8,000 miles on it are all still in great shape.
Claris was 2x8, not sure of the model number.
105 shifting was quicker, but 2x8 was more precise, especially when cables/housing gets a bit older.
My conclusion was it was down to cable pull and cog spacing. Since the 105 RD was top class.
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[MENTION=205284]rekmeyata[/MENTION] You can see the cable release thumb buttons hanging down like beagle ears in this photo of the 3400 shifters, below and behind the cable output. (photo from Chain Reaction). These don't have the release lever behind the brake lever like the 3500. What you see as a button on the 3500 shifter, is actually the output for the shifter cable, which on the 3500 also has a barrel adjuster, making it look big. The new Sora R3000 has aero shifter cables and nothing hanging off.

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Not sure why the perceived difference is that we both experienced, but from my experience the 105 is definitely better all the way around. There is one thing I need to mentioned that I failed to do so. I test rode bikes with all 105, based on those test rides it was better than Claris, my bike however has Ultegra rear derailleur not the 105, everything else is 105 except the cables which are DA9000 cables, that system setup is a day and night difference against Claris.
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[MENTION=203765]Axiom[/MENTION] if you do change out, I'd be happy to take those 600 shifters off your hands if you don't want them.
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I have Claris 2400 on my gravel bike. Its 2016 Specialized Diverge. The only thing I'm not a fan of are the cables sticking out of it. I have over 1000 miles on this groupset and never had any problems with it so far. It shifts pretty smooth. It is 2x8, so gear jumps are larger, but you get used to it once you build up your legs. I am planning on possibly upgrading, but I'm not in a hurry yet. I don't compete or race, so there is no need.





