Better bike lock coming
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Better bike lock coming
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This looks promising, but I can't see getting it yet since the best feature requires a WiFi connection and that's not available in most places where I want to lock my bike (although my local grocery store does have it).
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There is an article in Slate on this lock as well with an embedded video:
Velo Labs? Skylock is a smart bike lock that unlocks with bluetooth and has sensors for theft detection.
The video has a pretty nice white Bottechia with old school components and a leather saddle.
The technology looks interesting but . . . . an old school lock costs a heck of a lot less and there is a lot less to go wrong with it. Who knows perhaps one day we'll have a C&V lock section.
Velo Labs? Skylock is a smart bike lock that unlocks with bluetooth and has sensors for theft detection.
The video has a pretty nice white Bottechia with old school components and a leather saddle.
The technology looks interesting but . . . . an old school lock costs a heck of a lot less and there is a lot less to go wrong with it. Who knows perhaps one day we'll have a C&V lock section.
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You get an alert when you're bike gets stolen...
But then again, you still lost your bike. So I don't know if that alert has a big value to you guys...
Adding a chip in your bike to track it with GPS, that's handy. Than you can track where the thieves have located your stolen bike and try to get it back there somehow.
But then again, you still lost your bike. So I don't know if that alert has a big value to you guys...
Adding a chip in your bike to track it with GPS, that's handy. Than you can track where the thieves have located your stolen bike and try to get it back there somehow.
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You get an alert when you're bike gets stolen...
But then again, you still lost your bike. So I don't know if that alert has a big value to you guys...
Adding a chip in your bike to track it with GPS, that's handy. Than you can track where the thieves have located your stolen bike and try to get it back there somehow.
But then again, you still lost your bike. So I don't know if that alert has a big value to you guys...
Adding a chip in your bike to track it with GPS, that's handy. Than you can track where the thieves have located your stolen bike and try to get it back there somehow.
As far as "adding a chip to your bike", I think that's easier said than done, No?
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There is several weaknesses in this lock. I see at least 3 different approach that would easily defeat it. I don't want to go into detail to give all the ways of how to open this lock to thieves.
What i would say is that compared to a hidden gps this one is way more visible with its solar panels so that a thief can notice the lock 100 feet away (not good).
Another thing i would say is that if you have to make room for electronic components instead of alloy it is certainly not as resistant as another simpler ulock though this one has an accelerometer (which can be defeated using several approaches). To make things even easier they've also added a microUSB port above everything else. Come on!
The more ways you give to the owner to open his/her lock the more ways you give to thieves as well. There is redundancy of means to open the lock which is not good and just a few to protect it.
What i would say is that compared to a hidden gps this one is way more visible with its solar panels so that a thief can notice the lock 100 feet away (not good).
Another thing i would say is that if you have to make room for electronic components instead of alloy it is certainly not as resistant as another simpler ulock though this one has an accelerometer (which can be defeated using several approaches). To make things even easier they've also added a microUSB port above everything else. Come on!
The more ways you give to the owner to open his/her lock the more ways you give to thieves as well. There is redundancy of means to open the lock which is not good and just a few to protect it.
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If you park your bike a railway station like I do, to get a train further away to work (or other public transit). It takes me longer than an hour to get back to my bike if I would get an alert, if I already can leave my workplace for that reason.
I don't see the reason why it would be difficult to hide a chip somewhere in a bike.
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I still think the vibration triggered bike alarms are the best way really.
Less than $10 a pop. Buy a couple and fit them on your bike. Let the screeching sound chase away potential thieves.
Less than $10 a pop. Buy a couple and fit them on your bike. Let the screeching sound chase away potential thieves.
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What would this "chip" do? Would it require WiFi/GSM/4G? If it was simple RFID, how would it be better than the standard serial number system used in Denmark?
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Ugh. Yet another product that assumes/requires one to have a smartphone (w/mandatory data plan) to derive any benefit from it...
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I want one with a "roadside bomb" inside of it. When the thief caught in the act asks me "Watcha goin' to do about it?" I just blow him and the bike to Hell and be on my way to the bus stop with a smirk on my face.
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Ok, wifi is becoming more prevalent, its even available at my train station... but you have to log in from the device you're using. That would apply to the hotspots at Starbucks and such too, you have to accept the terms to log in. Are they accounting for that here? I didn't see anything in the article about actual function.
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Bicycle Theft Archives - Lock8 smart bike lock Blog
I don't know what system would be best, but anyway, if they can make a bike lock that sends you a message when someone is stealing your bike... than they can make a system with gps too, so you can see on your smartphone where your bike is located, to see where thieves store your bike. Probably already exist.
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The conventional U-locks aren't invincible, either. They are meant to deter casual thefts, which I believe this new "computerised" lock will do just as well if not better.
BTW, you must mean "crackers." It is crackers who destroy. Hackers create.
BTW, you must mean "crackers." It is crackers who destroy. Hackers create.
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