Bike for commute
#26
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If this is going to be your ONLY bike, I would suggest not discounting utility of being able to carry things. Racing bikes (like the caad10 5) are really meant for racing. I would just make two points to consider: (1) For most people (who aren't serious about racing), a racing bike is not useful or needed.
[QUOTE=m_yates;16870314](2) The weight savings of carbon fiber or other high end materials and components are irrelevant for the average person.
That's really annoying phrasing, the usual reason for buying low end carbon fiber is improved ride quality that's less fatiguing, not weight. (Not all carbon fiber is less fatiguing, but "endurance" designs for better ride quality like the specialized roubaix, trek domane, etc are).
If you buy a bike that has the option of attaching fenders and racks, you can always take them off and still ride fast if you want (not serious racing fast, but fast enough for most people). A steel frame touring-type bike with tiagra components may weight a few pounds more than a carbon fiber bike with higher end components. That weight difference is important for serious racing, but it doesn't really matter if you are commuting at 15 mph.
If you buy a racing bike and decide you need to carry something (food, clothes, laptop computer, etc.), then usually your only option is to strap on a hot and uncomfortable backpack. I've commuted thousands of miles with a backpack and also with panniers. Panniers win hands down.
I haven't ridden a CAAD, I've heard it's a full on aluminum racing bike, and as I said above it might have disadvantages - handling so responsive it's twitchy and annoying, a riding position that requires bending to far forward so it's uncomfortable for non-racers who don't do stretches to improve their flexibility, and a lack of rack mounts, which are convenient though it can be worked around.
But one doesn't have to go all the way in the opposite direction of a cargo bike either. Some people like the slower and more stable handling of those kind of bikes, but I like something that feels a little faster and more responsive without going into "twitchy" territory, which most of the "endurance" bikes do, and even many of the supposed "race" bikes.
#27
If this is going to be your ONLY bike, I would suggest not discounting utility of being able to carry things. Racing bikes (like the caad10 5) are really meant for racing. I would just make two points to consider: (1) For most people (who aren't serious about racing), a racing bike is not useful or needed. (2) The weight savings of carbon fiber or other high end materials and components are irrelevant for the average person. If you buy a bike that has the option of attaching fenders and racks, you can always take them off and still ride fast if you want (not serious racing fast, but fast enough for most people). A steel frame touring-type bike with tiagra components may weight a few pounds more than a carbon fiber bike with higher end components. That weight difference is important for serious racing, but it doesn't really matter if you are commuting at 15 mph. The extra weight provides utility, and I wouldn't discount the value of that. If you buy a racing bike and decide you need to carry something (food, clothes, laptop computer, etc.), then usually your only option is to strap on a hot and uncomfortable backpack. I've commuted thousands of miles with a backpack and also with panniers. Panniers win hands down.
And hoenstly, if you are going to want to train for a race, then chances are you should just get 2 bikes: a racing bike and a commuter.
#28
Different strokes. I have zero use for a rack on my commute, and panniers have so many drawbacks that I wouldn't consider them except for touring, grocery shopping and the like. OP says he'll carry little if any load daily so panniers don't matter. Racks don't matter. The ride matters.
It makes sense that for longer daily rides on the road, a road bike is the best choice. They aren't built just for speed, you can raise the handlebars if you want, I don't feel at all uncomfortable, differences in handling are a matter of a few rides to get used to, and so on. I pretty much disagree with all of the criticisms - but, there are racing bikes and then there are racing bikes. If you get something extreme or you are inflexible there could be problems.
Last year, and the two years before that, my commute was the same as OP describes but 4-5 days per week. A couple of years before that it was just a few miles, this year it is around 15 rt but every day, all weather. The racing bike configuration is not a problem - I've never said to myself "dang I wish I had a rack, suspension and bigger tires on this bike" nor even once "gee, this is uncomfortable and twitchy today." I jumped in cold at age 48 btw, out of shape and no experience, and barely able to ride 3 miles without distress, and for sure not a racer then or now.
They'll all work, and it's a matter of individual preference. I'm just saying, OP, don't let anyone scare you off the bike you want and that there is no real reason to be reluctant to use a road bike or "racing bike" for commuting. There are advantages and drawbacks of each style, but no line where you can definitively say "that won't work" nor "this is ideal."
It makes sense that for longer daily rides on the road, a road bike is the best choice. They aren't built just for speed, you can raise the handlebars if you want, I don't feel at all uncomfortable, differences in handling are a matter of a few rides to get used to, and so on. I pretty much disagree with all of the criticisms - but, there are racing bikes and then there are racing bikes. If you get something extreme or you are inflexible there could be problems.
Last year, and the two years before that, my commute was the same as OP describes but 4-5 days per week. A couple of years before that it was just a few miles, this year it is around 15 rt but every day, all weather. The racing bike configuration is not a problem - I've never said to myself "dang I wish I had a rack, suspension and bigger tires on this bike" nor even once "gee, this is uncomfortable and twitchy today." I jumped in cold at age 48 btw, out of shape and no experience, and barely able to ride 3 miles without distress, and for sure not a racer then or now.
They'll all work, and it's a matter of individual preference. I'm just saying, OP, don't let anyone scare you off the bike you want and that there is no real reason to be reluctant to use a road bike or "racing bike" for commuting. There are advantages and drawbacks of each style, but no line where you can definitively say "that won't work" nor "this is ideal."
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If this is going to be your ONLY bike, I would suggest not discounting utility of being able to carry things. Racing bikes (like the caad10 5) are really meant for racing. I would just make two points to consider: (1) For most people (who aren't serious about racing), a racing bike is not useful or needed. (2) The weight savings of carbon fiber or other high end materials and components are irrelevant for the average person. If you buy a bike that has the option of attaching fenders and racks, you can always take them off and still ride fast if you want (not serious racing fast, but fast enough for most people). A steel frame touring-type bike with tiagra components may weight a few pounds more than a carbon fiber bike with higher end components. That weight difference is important for serious racing, but it doesn't really matter if you are commuting at 15 mph. The extra weight provides utility, and I wouldn't discount the value of that. If you buy a racing bike and decide you need to carry something (food, clothes, laptop computer, etc.), then usually your only option is to strap on a hot and uncomfortable backpack. I've commuted thousands of miles with a backpack and also with panniers. Panniers win hands down.
If you want to commute and train for racing at the same time, then that is a different story.
If you want to commute and train for racing at the same time, then that is a different story.
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