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Sixty Fiver 07-25-14 12:22 PM

Has anyone brung any pie yet ?

LesterOfPuppets 07-25-14 12:37 PM

To walmart? Not that I've heard. My girlfriend has brought donuts in on a couple of occasions. :)

DiegoFrogs 07-25-14 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike (Post 16973799)
Walmart sells all size car tires too but doesn't sell cars.

I've never seen a bike on the sales floor at Walmart or any other bigbox store that was equipped with Presta valve tubes. Bigbox store bikes may be anathema to the bicycling enthusiasts of BF, but that is the source of most bikes sold in the U.S.

Almost 20,000 posts on the site, and you still can't see yourself as a cycling enthusiast? Why is that such a dirty word?

For what it's worth, the only trouble I've had with valves have all been on Schraeder valved tubes. There would sometimes be a tear near the base of the valve. I never had this problem with Presta valves. But this is only the observation of a single person.

My experience with Dunlop valves has been more limited since I only encountered one about 4 months ago after buying a used commuter bike in Sweden. I like them! After replacing my tires soon after acquisition, I've only had to give a few pump strokes to one tire, the one wearing the probably 20 year old tube of unknown history. I like that the whole venting mechanism can be tightened with a nut much larger in diameter than the knurled part on the Presta variety.

I-Like-To-Bike 07-25-14 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by DiegoFrogs (Post 16974058)
Almost 20,000 posts on the site, and you still can't see yourself as a cycling enthusiast? Why is that such a dirty word?

Oh I like cycling alright, and 20,000 posts might make me a BF enthusiast, but I am disappointed, if not disgusted, with so many cycling enthusiasts' posts based on:
club house snobbery (i.e. bashing of bicyclists and the bikes they ride that don't fit the poster's cycling profile), need for speed recommendations in all things cycling related, and/or obsessive quest for possession or showing off of the ultimate (i.e. allegedly fastest, lightest, or most efficient)pricey products hawked by LBS personnel.

I-Like-To-Bike 07-25-14 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 16973826)
I guess I'm not sure what your point is. Too many BF peeps wouldn't consider a sub $1500 bike so are out of touch with reality. Is that your point?

Yes; out of touch with any cycling reality that doesn't fit their own cycling profile, or scenario.

mconlonx 07-25-14 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by Roopull (Post 16970539)
At some point, I may switch to a different sealant, but will never go on a ride without any.

A fun part of this is that more and more people are using sealant as tubeless tires systems become more widely adopted...

LesterOfPuppets 07-25-14 03:25 PM

If I spend $2.79 apiece on presta tubes am I still elitist? :)

I-Like-To-Bike 07-26-14 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 16974556)
If I spend $2.79 apiece on presta tubes am I still elitist? :)

Only if you think it makes you a better or smarter cyclist than those who use tubes of "obscure" size (i.e. anything wider than 23mm) and/or anybody who rides any bike with the wrong kinda valve. :):)

wolfchild 07-26-14 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 16974556)
If I spend $2.79 apiece on presta tubes am I still elitist? :)

I bought some skinny presta tubes at my LBS and I paid $ 5.99 per tube.

wolfchild 07-26-14 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike (Post 16976626)
Only if you think it makes you a better or smarter cyclist than those who use tubes of "obscure" size (i.e. anything wider than 23mm) and/or anybody who rides any bike with the wrong kinda valve. :):)

We should all go back to riding solid rubber tubes in "non obscure sizes" and then nobody would be arguing about what type of valve to use for a commuting bike.:)

Motolegs 07-26-14 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by Roopull (Post 16972034)
Oh yeah, you see 'em on everything... I just don't know why. They're more complicated to use, so I just don't get why they are everywhere like they are.

Presta vavles are hardly complicated. In fact they are easy, and really foolproof.

I-Like-To-Bike 07-26-14 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by wolfchild (Post 16976809)
We should all go back to riding solid rubber tubes in "non obscure sizes" and then nobody would be arguing about what type of valve to use for a commuting bike.:)

Nobody sensible would argue that one type of valve is better or worse than another for commuting based on riding quality; the only difference would be availability/compatibility of refill air if the rider doesn't carry the right size pump.

rumrunn6 08-04-14 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 16970789)
From another perspective, Schraeder valves seem unnecessary outside of filling tubes at the gas station.

one only needs a single good reason

LesterOfPuppets 08-04-14 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by rumrunn6 (Post 17005154)
one only needs a single good reason

Yep. I used to have that as a reason. Back in the day before a Silca floor pump came in to my life :) Of course, those little adapters work fine for most gas station fillers also.

I still drill out all my MTB rims for the just in case scenarios where I'm tubeless and flatted out in the sticks but not far of a hike from a Walmart or Fred Meyer.

ThermionicScott 08-04-14 12:51 PM

I've never ever pumped up my bike at a gas station. I commute on Presta and Schrader valves. Not being able to use Presta valves isn't exactly something to brag about. :)

I-Like-To-Bike 08-04-14 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by ThermionicScott (Post 17005358)
I've never ever pumped up my bike at a gas station. I commute on Presta and Schrader valves. Not being able to use Presta valves isn't exactly something to brag about. :)

Not ever pumping up your bike at a gas station isn't exactly something to brag about, eh?

rumrunn6 08-05-14 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 17005242)
Of course, those little adapters work fine for most gas station fillers also.

I don't think this is correct. a gas station pump requires a pin (in the valve) to push up into the chuck pin releasing air from the gas station pump. (valve pin and chuck pin press against each other and open each other's valve allowing transfer of air) in the case of presta + adapter there's no object that protrudes up through the adapter to push that gas station chuck pin. there is no transfer of air

wolfchild 08-05-14 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by ThermionicScott (Post 17005358)
I've never ever pumped up my bike at a gas station. I commute on Presta and Schrader valves. Not being able to use Presta valves isn't exactly something to brag about. :)

Me too. I never use a gas station for airing up my tires. I carry a pump. here in my area gas stations charge minimum of 50-75 cents for air.

ThermionicScott 08-05-14 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike (Post 17006505)
Not ever pumping up your bike at a gas station isn't exactly something to brag about, eh?

Being independent from your surroundings sure is. What good is being able to use a gas station to pump up your tire if your flat occurs nowhere near one? It's why everyone should carry a pump or CO2.

noglider 08-05-14 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by ThermionicScott (Post 17007971)
Being independent from your surroundings sure is. What good is being able to use a gas station to pump up your tire if your flat occurs nowhere near one? It's why everyone should carry a pump or CO2.

Why not all three? Carrying a pump is nearly a no-brainer. Then add a valve adapter at pretty much no cost ($1.50 plus the burden of carrying another gram). Then maybe a CO2 cartridge as well, though I haven't felt the need yet.

In other words, why not carry a valve adapter as a supplement to your readiness? The benefit may be small but the cost is even smaller. Just don't use it as your primary plan to take care of your tires on the road.

ThermionicScott 08-05-14 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 17008129)
Why not all three? Carrying a pump is nearly a no-brainer. Then add a valve adapter at pretty much no cost ($1.50 plus the burden of carrying another gram). Then maybe a CO2 cartridge as well, though I haven't felt the need yet.

In other words, why not carry a valve adapter as a supplement to your readiness? The benefit may be small but the cost is even smaller. Just don't use it as your primary plan to take care of your tires on the road.

I'm pretty sure I still have one of those adapters in my toolbag, left over from the days when I didn't know most mini-pumps had reversible heads to cover both valve styles. My pump has never failed to do the job, so like you, I haven't felt the need for CO2.

noglider 08-05-14 09:56 AM

I'm thinking, something could happen to the pump. Sometimes I forget to bring it. It could break. Having a gas station option doesn't hurt! I think I'll park one on one of my tires.

I-Like-To-Bike 08-05-14 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by ThermionicScott (Post 17008180)
My pump has never failed to do the job, so like you, I haven't felt the need for CO2.

I suppose you will be quite unhappy if one day your pump does fail to do its job and you are unprepared to deal with your unexpected situation. Especially if you have to walk past a gas station with your unrideable bicycle.

Matariki 08-05-14 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 17008213)
I'm thinking, something could happen to the pump. Sometimes I forget to bring it. It could break. Having a gas station option doesn't hurt! I think I'll park one on one of my tires.

This is a great idea. I have 5 or so adapters in a little bin in my shop. I used them for filling tires from my compressor. I had never thought about carrying one with me when I ride.

Matariki 08-05-14 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by wolfchild (Post 16976809)
We should all go back to riding solid rubber tubes in "non obscure sizes" and then nobody would be arguing about what type of valve to use for a commuting bike.:)

Those things are a bear to change: Fitting Penny Farthing tyre - YouTube

And then there is the perennial argument about whether black or red rubber is more fitting for the enthusiast.


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