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jrickards 10-02-14 07:25 AM

Purpose of shorts chamois
 
Is the chamois for padding or sweat absorption?

RISKDR1 10-02-14 07:28 AM

it keeps your "arss" from being abraded. It also provides some padding. I suppose it absorbs all kinds of things. Thats why you need to wash your shorts before they become a science project.

jrickards 10-02-14 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by RISKDR1 (Post 17180516)
it keeps your "arss" from being abraded. It also provides some padding. I suppose it absorbs all kinds of things. Thats why you need to wash your shorts before they become a science project.

Oh, sorry son, we'll have to think of something else.

ThermionicScott 10-02-14 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by jrickards (Post 17180507)
Is the chamois for padding or sweat absorption?

Sweat absorption was the original purpose.

fietsbob 10-02-14 08:48 AM

& to do so It doesn't have to be a thick pad . thin without seams is sufficient.

bbbean 10-02-14 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by jrickards (Post 17180507)
Is the chamois for padding or sweat absorption?

Both, but mainly to keep your butt dry. FWIW, modern "chamois" is greatly superior to the actual chamois we used to use when I first started riding back in the 70s. I recently found an old pair of bike shorts from the early 80s and wore them on the trainer for an hour. While they were still more comfortable than wearing normal street shorts with underwear, the differences between them and my modern bibs were VERY noticeable.

noglider 10-02-14 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by ThermionicScott (Post 17180803)
Sweat absorption was the original purpose.

Yes! It's a good thing you asked. Nowadays, people want padding. Seems to me that it makes more sense to put padding in the seat if you need it. It also seems to me that the market demands padded shorts because so many misconstrued what the chamois was there for in the first place.

If the padding adds comfort for you, that's fine, but if you need it, then you'll need padded shorts every time you ride, no? Remember that you can condition your butt, with practice, to require little or no padding in your shorts OR on your saddle.

cycle_maven 10-02-14 09:06 AM

Dang! Wish I had known what it was for. All this time I've been wearing mine as a muzzle.

jrickards 10-02-14 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by cycle_maven (Post 17180887)
Dang! Wish I had known what it was for. All this time I've been wearing mine as a muzzle.

... which probably explains why you don't get no kisses any more.

jrickards 10-02-14 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 17180879)
Yes! It's a good thing you asked. Nowadays, people want padding. Seems to me that it makes more sense to put padding in the seat if you need it. It also seems to me that the market demands padded shorts because so many misconstrued what the chamois was there for in the first place.

If the padding adds comfort for you, that's fine, but if you need it, then you'll need padded shorts every time you ride, no? Remember that you can condition your butt, with practice, to require little or no padding in your shorts OR on your saddle.

I have a few different pair (pairs?) from different manufacturers with different thicknesses and, from the padding perspective, I don't feel the difference so it isn't for padding that I need it. However, they not only have different thicknesses but also different widths.

Given that the sweat produced in the region is primarily central, I wonder why manufacturers haven't produced any that are similar in shape to some women's menstrual pads. Without "padding" for seasoned butts, chamois "with wings" may be sufficient for people who only need sweat absorption.

Walter S 10-02-14 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by bbbean (Post 17180844)
Both, but mainly to keep your butt dry.

Not good for that purpose. The pad absorbs your sweat and then sits there wet with sweat right against your skin. Not very dry. Thin quick drying fabric would keep your butt dryer than a pad will.

I wear the padding for comfort on long rides. For less than about 10 miles I often just wear some thin shorts.

alan s 10-02-14 09:29 AM

Contrary to popular belief, it's there primarily to keep bulging to a minimum. Sort of smooths out the package, if you know what I mean.

Booger1 10-02-14 10:11 AM

Wipe down your bike after a sweaty ride for a streak free shine?....:)

Remember,original cycling shorts were wool.....

bbbean 10-02-14 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Walter S (Post 17180959)
Not good for that purpose. The pad absorbs your sweat and then sits there wet with sweat right against your skin. Not very dry. Thin quick drying fabric would keep your butt dryer than a pad will.

I wear the padding for comfort on long rides. For less than about 10 miles I often just wear some thin shorts.

If your chamois aren't keeping your butt dry, you need new chamois!

bbbean 10-02-14 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by alan s (Post 17180973)
Contrary to popular belief, it's there primarily to keep bulging to a minimum. Sort of smooths out the package, if you know what I mean.

You think people have a problem with butt bulge (where most of the padding is)?

noglider 10-02-14 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by bbbean (Post 17181159)
You think people have a probolem with butt bulge (where most of the padding is)?

No, I'm sure that's not what he is saying.

tsl 10-02-14 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by Walter S (Post 17180959)
Not good for that purpose. The pad absorbs your sweat and then sits there wet with sweat right against your skin. Not very dry. Thin quick drying fabric would keep your butt dryer than a pad will.

I agree with this. Those thick puffy pads soak up sweat rather than wick it away. Which explains why I like the thin, flexible, fabric pads in Aerotech's Pro Bike Short.

JanMM 10-02-14 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by bbbean (Post 17180844)
Both, but mainly to keep your butt dry. FWIW, modern "chamois" is greatly superior to the actual chamois we used to use when I first started riding back in the 70s. I recently found an old pair of bike shorts from the early 80s and wore them on the trainer for an hour. While they were still more comfortable than wearing normal street shorts with underwear, the differences between them and my modern bibs were VERY noticeable.

To clarify for the youngsters......"chamois" used to be chamois leather but as the leather got replaced by synthetic materials in bike shorts the chamois name stuck, which of course is a perversion of language but what can you do?
Chamois leather - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(Don't need no padded shorts to ride recumbent bikes.)

Marcus_Ti 10-02-14 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by bbbean (Post 17181158)
If your chamois aren't keeping your butt dry, you need new chamois!

...Or it is 40C and 95% humidity with a 27C dewpoint ;)

CharlyAlfaRomeo 10-02-14 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by jrickards (Post 17180935)
Given that the sweat produced in the region is primarily central, I wonder why manufacturers haven't produced any that are similar in shape to some women's menstrual pads.

I think that would just put the edges and seams in the worst possible location.

Thulsadoom 10-03-14 05:01 AM


Originally Posted by ThermionicScott (Post 17180803)
Sweat absorption was the original purpose.

I thought that the original purpose of a chamois was to cut down on the amount of chaffing from the old wool shorts.

rhm 10-03-14 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by Thulsadoom (Post 17183375)
I thought that the original purpose of a chamois was to cut down on the amount of chaffing from the old wool shorts.

Yes, exactly. It's not for sweat absorption. It should wick sweat away, not soak it up. It's not for padding. It should be too thin to provide any padding.

I agree with Alan that it's there to smooth out the area, but we're not talking about hiding your genitals. The point is that there are no bulky seams between your body and the saddle.

More important, I think, the chamois provides a non-slip layer between the outer clothing and the body, so there is no chafing on the skin. If there's any rubbing, it's between the outer clothing and the saddle. You should be able to wear a hole through your shorts without getting saddle sores.

I can't believe this thread is in the commuting forum. Does anyone really commute on a chamois?

gregjones 10-03-14 05:44 AM


Originally Posted by rhm (Post 17183396)
I can't believe this thread is in the commuting forum. Does anyone really commute on a chamois?

When it's 85 with 90% humidity I wear them everywhere, regardless of what I indend to do at the destination. When it's 65 & 30% running shorts are just fine.

My tights and winter garb has none.

GeneO 10-03-14 06:21 AM

Yes, I commute in chamois. It is usually a 30+ mi RT, asymmetric.

jrickards 10-03-14 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by rhm (Post 17183396)
I can't believe this thread is in the commuting forum. Does anyone really commute on a chamois?

Yes, I think that there are a lot of MAMILs (Middle Aged Men In Lycra) in this forum (but not everyone).


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