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Old 10-19-14 | 03:24 PM
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Surly Straggler Frame Question

Does the soon-to-be available Surly Straggler 650 have the same frame as the currently available 700 model?

My daughter needs a commuter bike and I'd like to buy the Straggler frame and build up a commuter with other components that I have on hand, which includes a set of 650 wheels. I gather from reading some of the information on the Internet that the only difference is the wheels, but nobody has actually spelled that out that I can find.
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Old 10-19-14 | 04:37 PM
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Why ask here? Contact Surly and get it from the horse's mouth. I called them a couple years back with asking about a frame and they answered all my questions.
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Originally Posted by Daytrip
Does the soon-to-be available Surly Straggler 650 have the same frame as the currently available 700 model?

My daughter needs a commuter bike and I'd like to buy the Straggler frame and build up a commuter with other components that I have on hand, which includes a set of 650 wheels. I gather from reading some of the information on the Internet that the only difference is the wheels, but nobody has actually spelled that out that I can find.
The geometry is adjusted for the smaller 650B wheels (note specifically the bottom-bracket drop and fork length):

Straggler 650B geometry chart
Straggler 700c geometry chart

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Old 10-19-14 | 05:59 PM
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Just by looking at the frames, what jumped out at me is that the 650b version has a sloping top tube. The geometry charts that @J.C. Koto linked to will show the differences in more detail. I'm curious if anyone else can weigh in on how those differences affect the ride? I've been interested in the Straggler for a while but was concerned that the original frame wouldn't fit me well (5'4" woman). The new 650b frame looks promising, but I don't know enough about bike geometry to understand what is at stake in the changes.
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