The fear/guilt of not commuting....
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I definitely "suffer" from the same syndrome, but I don't consider it detrimental to my job. The way I look at it, bike commuting is simply how I get to work and back, and it shouldn't bother anyone how I do that. We have flex time in my office, so if I need to come into work late and leave late, that is fine, or vice versa. I do drive on days when the weather is poor or unsafe for cycling, or when I need my car for appointments or meetings. I try not to feel guilty about driving, however, because I've reduced my annual driving by about 5,000 miles/year since I start bike commuting. Sometimes I drive simply because my legs are tired and need a break. I drove on Monday this week, even though the weather was perfect for cycling, because I rode 200+ miles last week and I was physically tired.
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You are way overboard there Mr. Dave. My post is about how I feel guilty when not riding to work........... I have been working here for 30 years (1984) since I was nineteen years old......
I have been commuting to work for two years now .I am now making a commitment to ride out the rest of my possible 18 more years commuting by bike.
I have been commuting to work for two years now .I am now making a commitment to ride out the rest of my possible 18 more years commuting by bike.
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" It would seem judging by your post... you've already decided NOT to have a career." is where I wanted to say I am in no way intending to do anything but retire from this job and I have spent 2/3 of my life there. Its down the road with in ten miles so commuting is great. They have showers so I can go as fast on my bike as I would like to. and every year they are apart of the Commute Challenge put on by the BTA. I just wish they'd pay me more

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Got rid of my car a few years ago. Believe it or not I literally never fret over whether to drive or not.
It is in fact a liberating feeling. I used to sometimes feel sort of down and weak etc. and think "I guess I'll just drive". but it's not that I've lost that option to take it easy and now it's occasional drudgery. Somehow not having that easy option makes me not need it either. I have days when I'm not 100%. But I've learned that I can cut way back on my usual effort and the impact on my commute time is negligible. And the ride is not at all taxing.
Just my personal perspective. I'm not saying everybody can be car free. But there's no car in my household. My elderly mother lives with me and I do all of what we need as far as shopping, etc. with a cargo trailer.
It is in fact a liberating feeling. I used to sometimes feel sort of down and weak etc. and think "I guess I'll just drive". but it's not that I've lost that option to take it easy and now it's occasional drudgery. Somehow not having that easy option makes me not need it either. I have days when I'm not 100%. But I've learned that I can cut way back on my usual effort and the impact on my commute time is negligible. And the ride is not at all taxing.
Just my personal perspective. I'm not saying everybody can be car free. But there's no car in my household. My elderly mother lives with me and I do all of what we need as far as shopping, etc. with a cargo trailer.
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My ideas about such things are likely very outdated and singular.
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Not a problem. I have changed jobs with in the company a few times in my tenor. From the entry level position to a tool
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Just curious, how does Mom handle doctor appointments; does she ever leave the house? Is a reliable taxi service available to handle her transportation requirements, if any, away from home?
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I am getting where I don't want anything to disturb my commute bike ride. I don't want to go to things after work that require being there and needing a car. Like today, I have a convention on the new update of the software that I use at work and I feel guilty I drove. Sometimes I am asked to take things to other plants and since I ride a bike, I get out of it. Am I lazy? Not a good employee? Anyone else got this problem. I bet there is a scientific name for it like Cardooraphobia or something...
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I frequently push her in the wheelchair around about a 5 mile area. Usually just to get her out of the house and go eat a dinner out. My sister lives in town and helps mom with some appointments. And mom is setup on MARTA Mobility and can use that too.
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I bike to work unless I'm too sick to bike to work so I have little sympathy for this kind of guilt. And on the rare occasions that I do drive, I drive in a hyper-legal manner (e.g. as slowly as possible while following the law to the letter in a hyper-exaggerated way). The way I drive is even more of a protest than the way I bike.
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It seems unhealthy and irresponsible to practice ones ideologies to the point of self flagellation.
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Thanks for the reply; is it correct to assume your sister uses a car to help mom with some of those appointments, especially those beyond the 5 mile area?
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Your health and well being is part of the "greater good", you make a conscious effort to do your part, there's no reason to make penitence through metaphorical "protest" driving just because you have to drive once in a while.
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Cycling >>>>>Train>>>>>>>>>>>>>Driving,
But another dimension is time:
Driving>>>>>>>>>Train (scheduling)>>>>Cycling.
Then there’s Focus (concentration):
Cycling>>>>>>>>>Driving>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Train
Because my children are grown, and my wife works late, I don’t lose family time, but it’s unsatisfying not to ride.
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I agree with you but there's also the dimension of getting work done in which train is better than bike and car, where one cannot work.
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Another dimension to my job is that within a great latitude i can coordinate my personal energy level with my tasks. For example I am an early riser (a "lark"), and if I stay over, I can be at my desk at 4:30 AM fresh, energetic, and uninterrupted.
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True, but I can't bring my tools (computer, etc) with me. And it's about a one-half hour train ride so i may be in the middle of something, and have to close up. It's the time pressure of having to finish up a complicated and important task that compels me to forgo catching a train or driving/cycling home. But it is satisfying to leisurely read the newspaper on the train.
Another dimension to my job is that within a great latitude i can coordinate my personal energy level with my tasks. For example I am an early riser (a "lark"), and if I stay over, I can be at my desk at 4:30 AM fresh, energetic, and uninterrupted.
Another dimension to my job is that within a great latitude i can coordinate my personal energy level with my tasks. For example I am an early riser (a "lark"), and if I stay over, I can be at my desk at 4:30 AM fresh, energetic, and uninterrupted.







