Miles Per "Gallon"?
04-11-05 | 07:50 AM
#26
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Originally Posted by velogirl
I don't think that one would burn 1,000 calories biking 20 miles. But I like your concept.
04-11-05 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by noisebeam
It is complicated by the fact that those calories you consume took oil to make and transport to you.
(unless you are a self sufficient farmer who only uses manual labor and no outside energy/food sources)
Al
(unless you are a self sufficient farmer who only uses manual labor and no outside energy/food sources)
Al
I've heard that and I think it's not fair to account for oil for calories that cyclists consume and not oil for calories that motorists burn, eg. a motorist who goes to the gym to workout instead of commute. One would have to account for the oil for calories "above and beyond" what the average motorist burns in the course of their day. No one calculates mpg that way.
04-11-05 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by billh
I've heard that and I think it's not fair to account for oil for calories that cyclists consume and not oil for calories that motorists burn, eg. a motorist who goes to the gym to workout instead of commute. One would have to account for the oil for calories "above and beyond" what the average motorist burns in the course of their day. No one calculates mpg that way.
Another place were people don't account for the fuel needed to keep cars on the road is in the construction of the road itself, nor in the fuel used to protect the oil. Any consumption of oil derived or supported products by cyclists becomes vanishingly small in comparison.
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04-11-05 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
Add to that the amount of oil that is consumed in distilling the oil, cracking it, catalyzing the formation of higher octane fuel and shipping it both to and from the refinery. All these steps are highly energy intensive and far higher than the fuel costs of shipping and growning food.
