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loky1179 01-08-15 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by ItsJustMe (Post 17454200)
I've never gotten a flat in 10 winters of riding. I am riding with such thick studded tires that I would have to ride over a sharpened spike or something to have a flat. Also the snow cushions the tires from most pointy things.

You mean like this?!

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...p;d=1389156673

That nail went right through my thick studs. But I happened to get that flat at exactly the right time last winter - just as I was riding by a skating rink with a warming house. I went inside and repaired it.

I don't worry about fixing flats in the winter. I can barely get those studded Mount and Grounds off my rims while I'm in the comfort of my shop - no way I'm going to try to fix a flat when it is dark, sub zero, and I'm soaked with sweat. If I get a flat, I'm calling my wife. If my cell phone is dead due to the cold, I'll hoof it to a convenience store or bus stop. I know I'll be OK if I can keep moving.

icyj 01-09-15 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by loky1179 (Post 17454394)
You mean like this?!

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...p;d=1389156673

That nail went right through my thick studs. But I happened to get that flat at exactly the right time last winter - just as I was riding by a skating rink with a warming house. I went inside and repaired it.

I don't worry about fixing flats in the winter. I can barely get those studded Mount and Grounds off my rims while I'm in the comfort of my shop - no way I'm going to try to fix a flat when it is dark, sub zero, and I'm soaked with sweat. If I get a flat, I'm calling my wife. If my cell phone is dead due to the cold, I'll hoof it to a convenience store or bus stop. I know I'll be OK if I can keep moving.

You "nailed" it on the head. I have also used the "call-my-wife" option several times.

I road yesterday with 0 Deg F on way in and 5 Deg F on way home (not including wind chills, there were also 30-40mph wind gusts). Do I do that all the time, no. For me it really depends on the wind. I would ride 20-30 below if the wind was in the right direction, like yesterday :)

tjspiel 01-09-15 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by loky1179 (Post 17454394)
You mean like this?!

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...p;d=1389156673

That nail went right through my thick studs. But I happened to get that flat at exactly the right time last winter - just as I was riding by a skating rink with a warming house. I went inside and repaired it.

I don't worry about fixing flats in the winter. I can barely get those studded Mount and Grounds off my rims while I'm in the comfort of my shop - no way I'm going to try to fix a flat when it is dark, sub zero, and I'm soaked with sweat. If I get a flat, I'm calling my wife. If my cell phone is dead due to the cold, I'll hoof it to a convenience store or bus stop. I know I'll be OK if I can keep moving.

A few years ago I was sitting at an intersection on snowy, cold evening. I had too much air in my tires for the conditions so I decided to let some out. I had a devil of a time getting the valve cap off because it had frozen to the valve. I finally got it loose, only to hear a loud "whoosh" when I had gotten it mostly off.

Turns out I hadn't gotten the cap free at all, instead I was unknowingly unscrewing the whole valve mechanism (it was a presta). it took me a moment to figure out what happened but by the time I did, most of the air was gone. I had two miles left to go. With all that snow on the ground I figured there was little damage I could do, so I just rode it like that.

Made it home and nothing was harmed.

snow_echo_NY 01-09-15 02:09 PM

i cycled to and from work yesterday 1/8 in NYC where temps were 5-10F. it was cold, not gonna lie. but do-able. i counted at least 6 cyclists on the bridge.

windy and cold today...!

3 layers top: fleece plus two underlayer

2 layers bottom: fleece and underlayer

2 layer gloves: knit liners inside fleece heavy weight gloves

2 layer head cover: baklava + skull cap and gator

1 layer wool socks

sneakers


i was comfortable for the ride today except the feet - so i'll wear a 2nd layer of wool socks for the ride back.


and wear the baffin winter boots i have for the next time, and dismantle the toe gates since the boots will be too big for them.



and my follow up for the ride back


i rode back yesterday with:


wool socks plus another wool sock over it, and double backed for essentially 3 layers of wool on the feet. this happened to be a comfortable and warm-enough solution considering i was wearing mizuno trainers with lots of air holes. (see photo to see how i double-backed it)

robert schlatte 01-09-15 02:22 PM

I rode my six mile one way commute every day this week. In central Ohio, Thursday morning was the coldest at -8 degrees F with -20 wind chill. I was absolutely fine both ways. I do worry about flats or mechanical issues when it is so cold. If I experienced anything, my plan is that I would lock up bike, walk or run to nearest place to get inside, and phone for a ride. Then I'd drive back and pick up my bike. Knock on wood, I've never had to resort to this plan.

kingston 01-09-15 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by icyj (Post 17455880)
... I have also used the "call-my-wife" option several times...

+1 I highly recommend getting a wife if you don't already have one. They can really come in handy.

wolfchild 01-09-15 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by loky1179 (Post 17454394)
You mean like this?!

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...p;d=1389156673

That nail went right through my thick studs. But I happened to get that flat at exactly the right time last winter - just as I was riding by a skating rink with a warming house. I went inside and repaired it.

I don't worry about fixing flats in the winter. I can barely get those studded Mount and Grounds off my rims while I'm in the comfort of my shop - no way I'm going to try to fix a flat when it is dark, sub zero, and I'm soaked with sweat. If I get a flat, I'm calling my wife. If my cell phone is dead due to the cold, I'll hoof it to a convenience store or bus stop. I know I'll be OK if I can keep moving.

I had a similar thing happen to me few winters ago. A very sharp long screw went through my rear Nokian Extreme 294's. I just heard a big whooosh and it was an instant flat. It was hell chainging a tube in below freezing weather, I had a really hard time getting the tires off the rims and then getting them back on.

DOS 01-09-15 08:30 PM

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It was 10 degrees in VA, wind chill -3. I rode and this is what I took (I actually was a bit overdressed, one fewer baselayers would have been good) . It's all about the layers.

-- Lower body: Heavy-weight lined cycling tights under loose fitting windbreaker pants
-- Upper body: Tightish mixed blend nylon/wool jersey under midweight Smartwool base layer under retro cool wool Molteni sweater under wind shell.
-- Feet: Heavy defeet woolie boolie socks, shoes under tight midweight shoe covers under heavyweight looser fitting lined goretex booties.
-- Hands: Ibex wool glove liners under midweight cycling gloves under extra large loose old Fila polar fleece gloves
-- Head: Tight over ear head cover under full balaclava under helmet

ClarkinHawaii 01-09-15 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by hueyhoolihan (Post 17447450)
it will be mano y mano. commuter vs. elements.

make that mano a mano

ClarkinHawaii 01-09-15 08:42 PM

Got down to 55 last couple of nights--coldest it's been since I've lived here.

I really envy you guys who get to enjoy four seasons . . .:D

PennyTheDog 01-09-15 09:13 PM

It was cold in Minneapolis compared to what we've had so far, but last winter this was pretty common, I think. Three days with air temps below zero and one day with an air temp of single digits (when I went to work in the morning). If you give me the choice, I'll GLADLY take the cold over snow! With the right gear on, biking in the cold isn't too bad-- the key is having the right gear.

Jim from Boston 01-10-15 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Jim from Boston (Post 17449637)
…I don’t really assess wind chill when deciding what to wear, just the ambient temperature, since we get a wind chill anyways on a bike. I say “wind chill is for wimps,” though I do honor the effect of wind, especially a headwind….


Originally Posted by RidingMatthew (Post 17450118)
i basically go on the ambient temperature as well other than when they are talking about wind chill advisories or wind gusts.


Originally Posted by 2manybikes (Post 17450156)
I also don't carefully consider windchill when dressing for a bike ride any more either.


Originally Posted by scoatw (Post 17450322)
I don't pay attention to wind chill. I prepare myself according to the ambient temperature at that time….




I was gratified at the above responses, because I’ve never gotten replies about neglecting wind chill, and I didn’t mean for it to sound like false bravado.

This morning I rode my 14 miles commute at 21ºF and realized another meteorologic factor I never consider…time of day and cloud cover. Usually I commute and arrive 7:30 AM at the latest, so I usually am in the dark. This morning I rode at 10:00 AM and the bright sun was at about 60º above the horizon and the radiant heat made me feel quite warm. Even on my early morning commute, I may catch some low sun rays, and they are noticeably warm.

It’s so rare to ride in Winter daylight that I don’t count on radiant heat, but whereas 21º would prompt me to wear a heavyweight winter jacket, today a fleece would have been sufficient. I did change from my heavyweight ski gloves into a thinner, knit pair while en route, and kept the face mask pulled down low most of the route.

wolfchild 01-10-15 01:31 PM

Last few days I've been riding in temps of -18 Celsius below zero(-0.4 F) with the windchill factor of around
-23 Celsius below zero(-9 F). Other then that it's been an easy winter to ride , we only had one big snowstorm since December.

mcours2006 01-10-15 02:01 PM

I haven't ridden since the start of this deep freeze, and driving to work along some of the same roads on which I ride I can see that the road conditions are not good for riding. There is considerable snow on the road which effectively makes the road much more narrow. I don't feel safe riding that close to the traffic. So for the foreseeable future there will be no riding.

TransitBiker 01-13-15 05:22 AM

I have a cold, and need to get bike to shop for new brake pads. That said, i did get to ride in the arctic chill last monday. I forgot my scarf, so i was basically breathing in the 10 degree air straight while exerting myself flat out. It's probably what gave the cold a foothold. Lesson learned, no forgetty scarfy.

As a small concession i was also up in doylestown last weds evening and walked a fair distance from my doc's office to starbucks to wait for a ride in the ~12 degrees. THAT i dressed properly for, thankfully, as that's when the cold was near it's worse with sore throat and lead lungs.

Hoping i get another crack at riding in some chilly weather this winter! :)

- Andy

wolfchild 01-13-15 05:11 PM

When I left home this morning at 6:00AM the temperature was -21 Celsius below zero (-5F) with the windchill of around -27 Celsius (-16F). I wasn't wearing any goggles and every time I blinked my eyes it felt like my eye lids was going to freeze shut.

TransitBiker 01-13-15 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by wolfchild (Post 17467447)
When I left home this morning at 6:00AM the temperature was -21 Celsius below zero (-5F) with the windchill of around -27 Celsius (-16F). I wasn't wearing any goggles and every time I blinked my eyes it felt like my eye lids was going to freeze shut.

Eye covering in cold = souper importante.

- Andy

2manybikes 01-13-15 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by TransitBiker (Post 17467685)
Eye covering in cold = souper importante.

- Andy

Also - Don't lick the handlebars.

wolfchild 01-13-15 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by TransitBiker (Post 17467685)
Eye covering in cold = souper importante.

- Andy

I wouldn't say it's absolutely essential, I've never had a frostbite yet....My main problem with goggles is fogging, I haven't yet found a way to prevent fogging.

Corben 01-13-15 08:08 PM

Hell! I grew up in billing Montana during the harsh winters of the seventies! We were smart enough to leave the bikes home. We hooky-bobbed to get around town!
Say...I just added another thing to my bucket list!

2manybikes 01-13-15 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by wolfchild (Post 17467807)
I wouldn't say it's absolutely essential, I've never had a frostbite yet....My main problem with goggles is fogging, I haven't yet found a way to prevent fogging.

I had a problem with goggles fogging too. And then in the teen's it would turn to ice. I use good side coverage bike glasses. I have a neck gaiter over my mouth and breath through the fleece. I put an adjustable glasses leash on the glasses, a "croakie". I set the leash so I can have the glasses down on my nose when I want to, but they won't fall off. When I slow down or work hard, I can "open" the top of the glasses a little by pulling them away from my face, to get more circulation in, to prevent fogging. I also wear a neck gaiter. It is just a fleece tube, but, the front is
shaped to go over your nose and under your eyes. If I get fogging I can pull it down under my nose to prevent fogging, or even below my mouth to drink, and then pull it back up. If it's really cold the gaiter goes up under the glasses.

In other words you need to be able to make adjustments on the fly. I have to open for ventilation at a stop, put then close up for higher speed. I have photos of this.

TransitBiker 01-13-15 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by 2manybikes (Post 17467780)
Also - Don't lick the handlebars.

Darn, i knew i was doing something wrong...... :D


Originally Posted by wolfchild (Post 17467807)
I wouldn't say it's absolutely essential, I've never had a frostbite yet....My main problem with goggles is fogging, I haven't yet found a way to prevent fogging.

Yea, fogging sucks. I've ridden with and without eye coverings in teen and single digit with pretty steady wind, and it always helps, even with fogging. Normally if it's super brutal out i forgo eye covering & just pull my hat down low and have a scarf on so only a tiny bit is exposed. I should have done that last monday, but i did nt and now ive got a cold still a week later.
-
Andy

Jim from Boston 01-14-15 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by wolfchild (Post 17467807)
....My main problem with goggles is fogging, I haven't yet found a way to prevent fogging.


Originally Posted by 2manybikes (Post 17467889)
I had a problem with goggles fogging too. And then in the teen's it would turn to ice. I use good side coverage bike glasses. I have a neck gaiter over my mouth and breath through the fleece. I put an adjustable glasses leash on the glasses, a "croakie… If I get fogging I can pull it down under my nose to prevent fogging, or even below my mouth to drink, and then pull it back up. If it's really cold the gaiter goes up under the glasses.


Originally Posted by TransitBiker (Post 17467932)
Yea, fogging sucks. I've ridden with and without eye coverings in teen and single digit with pretty steady wind, and it always helps, even with fogging.



FWIW, I frequently post about my satisfactory solution to fogging eyeglasses and goggles, to as low as 0ºF for my 14 mile commute.


Originally Posted by Jim from Boston (Post 17427363)
From my own experience, and reading other such threads, it appears that other than anti-wetting agents (Cat Crap, soap, saliva, etc), there are two basic strategies to prevent fogging:
  1. Sealed goggles, i.e. like typical ski goggles with a foam seal, sometimes also with double-paned lenses, or even blower fans, to keep out exhaled moisture. The problem with these are…

  2. Widely ventilated glasses, like industrial safety glasses ("goggles") as described by me…


Originally Posted by wipekitty (Post 17427255)
It's the annual fogged goggles thread!


Originally Posted by Jim from Boston (Post 16391701)
Here we go again. I perennially post about my winter eyewear for my 14 mile [one-way] year-round commute, from about 35° down to as low as 0°. I must wear my prescription eyeglasses, and fogging is one of the worst dangers of winter riding. I am entirely satisfied with my system:…



With particular reference to 2manybikes


Originally Posted by Jim from Boston (Post 16391701)
…I realize now that my goggles and face mask are actually an integrated system of heating and ventilation that keeps my face warm and my vision unencumbered by fogging...

See also this post.

blackhawknj 01-14-15 11:30 PM

I have been pedaling here in Central NJ with temperatures in the teens, occasionally a little wind. Biggest annoyance is that below about 25 degrees the Shimano 3 speed trigger freezes, turning my bike into a single speed.

TransitBiker 01-15-15 12:51 AM


Originally Posted by blackhawknj (Post 17471356)
I have been pedaling here in Central NJ with temperatures in the teens, occasionally a little wind. Biggest annoyance is that below about 25 degrees the Shimano 3 speed trigger freezes, turning my bike into a single speed.

First thing i think of is the cable may shrink in the cold if it gets low enough. My old 4 speed was definitely not happy about the cold, but it would still shift till the day i got hit... then it became a single speed haha. Might want to also tap on it or use some silicone lube in the selector to keep it jam-free. :)

- Andy


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