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Smooth tread tubeless 35c tire options?

Old 05-23-16, 09:42 AM
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Smooth tread tubeless 35c tire options?

My Diverge came with Specialized Roubaix Pro 32c tires. I've been quite satisfied with the tire (excellent ride quality and puncture protection) on pavement and fine limestone/gravel trails and was planning on switching to the tubeless version. However, since the frame has clearance for up to 38c, I'm wondering what might be other good options with a similar tread pattern in around a 35c size.



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I thought there was a Panaracer Gravel King like that, but I guess it hasn't made it into production yet
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Is this the one? I've heard they ride well (but prone to cuts), however looks like 32c is the largest width. The Specialized Roubaix tire is specified as 30/32, so maybe this would actually be wider in practice.

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Schwalbe allmotion?
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I have the 32c Gravelking slicks (actually a file-textured tread); great tires. I also run them in 23c and 28c sizes.

Compass tires has a couple of tires which fit the description, like Bon Jon Pass.

EDIT: I should add that I have the pre-tubeless compatible Gravelking 32s, just to be clear. The tubeless ones were indacted as 2016 models.

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Old 05-24-16, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Leebo View Post
Schwalbe allmotion?
I'd say the Almotion is a significantly different tire than the Roubaix, especially in that they're 38s and significantly heavier; they're more than 1.5lb heavier per pair.

May not be an issue, and the extra tread may even be welcome, but it's worth paying attention to, I think.

I run Schwalbe S-One tubeless on my main dirt road bike, which are 30c tires (measuring out at 30.84 on 18.1mm bsw rims) with a distinctive tread pattern comprised of small, low cylindrical shapes. It's like a file tread in many respects, perhaps a bit heartier, but rolls pavement fast and is perfect for the mostly hardpack dirt roads I ride in SE Michigan.

If the OP wants to go wider, well the S-1s are no use, but if a 30c is in play, I heartily recommend the S-1.
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Old 05-24-16, 08:13 AM
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My rims are 23mm internal, and my 700x32 Maxxis ReFuse TR mount to 34.5mm. File tread almost identical to the Spesh tread, only without the flat center strip.
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Compass Bon Jon, i think those are the 35 tubeless. I have 2 pairs of compass tires, sooooooooo comfy and pretty fast
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Yes, they are.
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Just got a Niner RLT 9 4 Star and it came setup tubeless with Schwalbe G Ones 35c. Likely about the perfect tire for this kind of bike. I'll report back once I get more riding time in.

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+1 for the Panaracer Gravelking file tread 32c. I run them on my Specialized Diverge, and I love them. Massive improvement in comfort compared to the stock 28c specialized tires, and they're just as fast, if not faster. They handle gravel roads fine aswell, though I must admit I dont have any experience with wider knobbier gravel tires for comparison.
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I have a 700x28 Vittoria Zaffiro on my FeltV90f that I use in gravel but would like something wider that would still roll relatively fast on our rough pavement conditions,is a 32 or 35 noticeably slower? The Gravelking looks promising

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Originally Posted by kantquit View Post
I have a 700x28 Vittoria Zaffiro on my FeltV90f that I use in gravel but would like something wider that would still roll relatively fast on our rough pavement conditions,is a 32 or 35 noticeably slower? The Gravelking looks promising
As my post above says I upgraded from 28c Specialized Espoir to 32c Panaracer Gravelking file tread, and I didnt feel any loss in rolling resistance or speed, but gained a lot in comfort. As a road cyclist 32c sounded enormous and very wide to me on paper, but I was surprised of how little you notice the difference when you look at the tire, you only feel it when you ride it.

I think a lot of road cyclists feel the same way about wider tires as I did, but I wish more would ditch the assumptions and try it out, it really makes a lot of sense. As I see it, the only reason were not all widing at least 28/32 is because of the Marketing departments pushing pro peloton stuff on the consumers.
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Originally Posted by masterchief View Post
As my post above says I upgraded from 28c Specialized Espoir to 32c Panaracer Gravelking file tread, and I didnt feel any loss in rolling resistance or speed, but gained a lot in comfort. As a road cyclist 32c sounded enormous and very wide to me on paper, but I was surprised of how little you notice the difference when you look at the tire, you only feel it when you ride it.

I think a lot of road cyclists feel the same way about wider tires as I did, but I wish more would ditch the assumptions and try it out, it really makes a lot of sense. As I see it, the only reason were not all widing at least 28/32 is because of the Marketing departments pushing pro peloton stuff on the consumers.
Just got back from my first 3 hour ride with my new Niner RLT 9 with Schwalbe G Ones 35c tubeless, and the ride quality is very, very good. The 35c semi slick tires at 45 psi seems to roll nearly as well on pavement as 25s at 100 psi, with at least 3 times the comfort on rough pavement. Wider tires are the way to go even if your just staying on the pavement, I'll never buy a pure road bike again.
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Been looking at tires also and was wondering what are some pros and cons of 32mm vs 35mm? Mine currently are 35mm and was thinking of going down in size. I ride 80% on the road and about 20% on single track stuff. If there is not much difference in speed on the road, I will probably stick with 35mm due to comfort. I like these file thread tire ideas even on single track stuff.
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I run Vittoria Randonuer Hyper 700x35 tubeless on Velocity A23s and am very happy
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Originally Posted by KonaRider125 View Post
Just got a Niner RLT 9 4 Star and it came setup tubeless with Schwalbe G Ones 35c. Likely about the perfect tire for this kind of bike. I'll report back once I get more riding time in.

Schwalbe G-One - Schwalbe Professional Bike Tires

I actually have a set of those, and find them to be a bit on the harsh side unless you lower the pressure down to the lower limit of Schwalbe's recommended pressure. i actually like the Challenge Gravel Grinders to ride better, but they do not have the benefit of being tubeless.
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Originally Posted by KonaRider125 View Post
Just got back from my first 3 hour ride with my new Niner RLT 9 with Schwalbe G Ones 35c tubeless, and the ride quality is very, very good. The 35c semi slick tires at 45 psi seems to roll nearly as well on pavement as 25s at 100 psi, with at least 3 times the comfort on rough pavement. Wider tires are the way to go even if your just staying on the pavement, I'll never buy a pure road bike again.
I'm so with you on this one. I've ridden my touring bike with 1.6" wide tires over twice as many miles as my road bike this year.
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Small point of distinction, perhaps, but the G-One is a micro-knob, not a semi-slick; there is just no part of the tread that is slick.

Also, would you qualify the assertion that, at 45psi, they roll almost as well as 25c at 100psi? I mean, like, in terms of speed? I'd expect that they'd be much harder to sustain speeds of +20mph on than the narrower, high-pressure tire.

I run the even more micro micro-knobbed S-One 30c tubeless, and yeah, they roll as easily as 23c up to about 17mph or so, but knocking out stretches of pavement at 21mph or so takes a bit more effort. I've not done comparisons with a power meter, or even swapped my 23c wheelset in for the 30c, so I might be talking out my ass, but this is something I've noticed, so I'm curious if others find it that way, too.
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Small point of distinction, perhaps, but the G-One is a micro-knob, not a semi-slick; there is just no part of the tread that is slick.

Also, would you qualify the assertion that, at 45psi, they roll almost as well as 25c at 100psi? I mean, like, in terms of speed? I'd expect that they'd be much harder to sustain speeds of +20mph on than the narrower, high-pressure tire.

I run the even more micro micro-knobbed S-One 30c tubeless, and yeah, they roll as easily as 23c up to about 17mph or so, but knocking out stretches of pavement at 21mph or so takes a bit more effort. I've not done comparisons with a power meter, or even swapped my 23c wheelset in for the 30c, so I might be talking out my ass, but this is something I've noticed, so I'm curious if others find it that way, too.
The Schwalbe G-Ones are of course designed to be a gravel tire but do well on pavement. I now have almost 1000 miles on them riding on pavement, the big volume with the low tubeless pressures make them nice for rough chip seal stuff. They don't seem to increase rolling resistance much over pure road 25c tires. I'll probably give the 700x38 G ones a try after my 35s wear out.

As a side note, running tires tubeless is the way to go for gravel/adventure bikes. No more flat tires, ever. The Stans Notubes Grail wheelset/tubeless system is worth every penny.
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Resist Nomad comes in 35. From what I've heard they take to tubeless well.
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There still seems to be a big gap in tubeless choices between road 28 and MTB 2-inch sizes. This is the territory of hybrids, commuters, and touring bikes. The Compass tires in this size don't appear to have the extra layer of rubber inside to aid sealing or the reinforced sidewalls like "real" tubeless tires (ie, Schwalbe Microskin in their Tubeless Easy tires).
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So far from my research the Schwalbe G Ones seem to have the best balance of weight, rolling resistance and versatile tread. A Specialized employee said they will be releasing new tires in this category in a few weeks so I am holding out to see what they'll have.
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Looks like this may be the new tire from Specialized. Seems like maybe a bigger version of the Roubaix, which wouldn't be a bad thing.


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Originally Posted by vinuneuro View Post
Looks like this may be the new tire from Specialized. Seems like maybe a bigger version of the Roubaix, which wouldn't be a bad thing.


If true, it's a far cry from a G-One, tread-wise, though. Even the S-One has more tread texture than a Roubaix.
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