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Juin Tech or Yokozuna cable-actuated hydro brakes?

Old 04-02-21, 03:24 PM
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Juin Tech or Yokozuna cable-actuated hydro brakes?

Anyone used these? Appear to be the same brakes with different branding. I'm not splurging on full hydro for the next build, but the juin techs - given that they come with rotors - cost about as much as a set of Spyres or BB7s. Seen mostly positive reviews, but some reports of the pistons getting stuck. Thanks!
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No trouble with the Juin Tech R1 brakes with 3400 miles, but I don't ride in bad weather. I am still on the stock brake pads, but have some organic on the shelf waiting for when they are needed. They should be better with compression less housing, but I am just using regular housing until I have to remove the bar tape again.

I like them better than the BB7 brakes I had previously.
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From what I understand the Yokozuna options come with compressionless housing included.

Have been on the R1 with Jagwire Pro compressionless for a couple years.
Ran Swisstop organic for some time, which while they were good on the dry, being organic they wore down faster than metallic.
On sintered since.

Do remember reading somewhere that JuinTech modified the pistons on later versions somehow to address any binding issues.
I do maintain the calipers at times though to keep the piston movement smooth.

I find them pretty good as a lighter rider. There is also a more expensive & stronger 4piston GT.

Bikepacking.com did a writeup on the 4piston? version. The comments section has some useful info on potentially getting the max performance out of them.

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Are they that much cheaper than the granddaddys of cable hydraulic TRP Hy/RD?
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I used Juintech F1 brakes with compressionless housing for a year on my current gravel bike because I wasn't ready to give up the Gevenalle shifters.

They worked fine. Nothing great and not bad. I pulled the lever and stopped.
They were easy to set up too.

I now have 105 hydraulic levers and brakes. I like them more. They stop me just the same though.
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Originally Posted by dwmckee
Are they that much cheaper than the granddaddys of cable hydraulic TRP Hy/RD?
Juintech flatmount calipers, rotors, and jagwire compressionless housing cost $160 total.
trp hyrd brakes were $100 more and didn't have the housing or rotors, so it would have been about twce the cost in total..

Also, the juintech flatmount unit is smaller than the hard which I liked.
Smaller and cheaper.
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It seems like most of these rotors are 6 bolt. If OP has centerlock hubs, an adaptor should be priced in as well. If this build is to include new hubs, centerlock is so much nicer IMO.
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Originally Posted by DorkDisk
It seems like most of these rotors are 6 bolt. If OP has centerlock hubs, an adaptor should be priced in as well. If this build is to include new hubs, centerlock is so much nicer IMO.
Good point. I used the 6 bolt rotors that came with mine for one of my kids' bikes since I have centerlock.
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Thanks for the feedback, seems like their worth a try. Will be getting new wheels, but probably going with 6-bolt hubs as I'm trying to keep the build relatively cheap (and I don't want to have to buy another tool). Just curious, is there a case to me made for regular cable brakes over these hybrid types, even if cost is roughly the same? Sadly, it seems like short-pull cable brakes are going the way of the buffalo - the only well-regarded ones I can find are BB7s, Spyres and Paul Klampers (way too expensive).
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Originally Posted by nstone
Thanks for the feedback, seems like their worth a try. Will be getting new wheels, but probably going with 6-bolt hubs as I'm trying to keep the build relatively cheap (and I don't want to have to buy another tool). Just curious, is there a case to me made for regular cable brakes over these hybrid types, even if cost is roughly the same? Sadly, it seems like short-pull cable brakes are going the way of the buffalo - the only well-regarded ones I can find are BB7s, Spyres and Paul Klampers (way too expensive).
FYI, centerlock utilizes the same tool as for a square taper BB or cassette lockring. However, if your tool is very old, you may need a newer model.

As for straight cable disks, they are still cheaper.
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