Wilde Rambler SL - test ride (wow!)
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Wilde Rambler SL - test ride (wow!)
I test rode one of these at my LBS and was blown away by how comfortable the bike was... both the geometry and the steel tubing. Plus, the front end was still pretty snappy and fun. It really wants to go when you stand and hammer. Didn't feel like an All City at all... The shop had built it up with the new SRAM Rival 1x (13 speed) UDH groupset, which was also quite impressive in its shifting. Bike weight was around 22 lbs, which ain't too bad for a steel gravel bike with 700x45s and pretty heavy DT Swiss alloy wheels. The bike just seemed to be "right." Now, this was all judged in a 10-minute neighborhood ride on pavement, but I can probably say that I haven't felt this good on a bike since I had a rim-brake Ritchey Road Logic about 15 years ago. Just thought I'd share my thoughts in case someone was interested in how these ride.
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That’s a nice bike!
You could shed well over a pound with a decent set of carbon fiber-rimmed wheels… which would actually put it within spitting distance of the weights of some very popular carbon fiber framed gravel bikes.
You could shed well over a pound with a decent set of carbon fiber-rimmed wheels… which would actually put it within spitting distance of the weights of some very popular carbon fiber framed gravel bikes.
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I've got a custom steel frame with a cf fork and Ultegra/GRX drivetrain, with a 1410g wheelset. My friend bought a 2025 Diverge (same size as my bike, with front and rear susp, Force AXS drivetrain, exact same wheels I've got on my bike). We didn't break out the scale, but we agreed that his bike is, at most, only a few ounces lighter than mine.
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OK, I gave in to intrusive thoughts from the little devil on my shoulder. Sold a mountain bike to make room for this one. Should hopefully have it by the end of the week... Making a few changes to the build through my LBS. Stay tuned!
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For the price, that bike comes with some good components...I'm interested to see what you're changing.
I keep thinking I should buy a new gravel race bike, since mine (steel frame) is over six years old. But damn, even though it's got some dings and chips, it still looks good and rides as well as ever.
I keep thinking I should buy a new gravel race bike, since mine (steel frame) is over six years old. But damn, even though it's got some dings and chips, it still looks good and rides as well as ever.
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For the price, that bike comes with some good components...I'm interested to see what you're changing.
I keep thinking I should buy a new gravel race bike, since mine (steel frame) is over six years old. But damn, even though it's got some dings and chips, it still looks good and rides as well as ever.
I keep thinking I should buy a new gravel race bike, since mine (steel frame) is over six years old. But damn, even though it's got some dings and chips, it still looks good and rides as well as ever.


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Gosh dangit...................now you have me looking at this bike. I'd written it off, based off of recommended height (I'm 6'4-6'5), but sat down last night and compared the geometry to gravel bikes I already have, and I know fit me decent enough. It's actually comparable, if not better than, bikes I own that were recommended for up to 6'5" folks.
I'd really like to try a steel frame. It's the last frame material out of the main 4, that I haven't tried yet. I'd be ordering from Wilde's site though.
I'd really like to try a steel frame. It's the last frame material out of the main 4, that I haven't tried yet. I'd be ordering from Wilde's site though.
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Gosh dangit...................now you have me looking at this bike. I'd written it off, based off of recommended height (I'm 6'4-6'5), but sat down last night and compared the geometry to gravel bikes I already have, and I know fit me decent enough. It's actually comparable, if not better than, bikes I own that were recommended for up to 6'5" folks.
I'd really like to try a steel frame. It's the last frame material out of the main 4, that I haven't tried yet. I'd be ordering from Wilde's site though.
I'd really like to try a steel frame. It's the last frame material out of the main 4, that I haven't tried yet. I'd be ordering from Wilde's site though.
I don't even know how to explain it... but for me, it felt very dialed in. Should have it by the end of the week. Pics coming soon.
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Going to use it as my "all-road" comfy bike...
One more hint as to some of the upgrades: https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/...TuBufTs4T9LLkg
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Bikes: '18 class built steel roadbike, '19 Fairlight Secan, '88 Schwinn Premis , Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V4, '89 Novara Trionfo
Gosh dangit...................now you have me looking at this bike. I'd written it off, based off of recommended height (I'm 6'4-6'5), but sat down last night and compared the geometry to gravel bikes I already have, and I know fit me decent enough. It's actually comparable, if not better than, bikes I own that were recommended for up to 6'5" folks.
I'd really like to try a steel frame. It's the last frame material out of the main 4, that I haven't tried yet. I'd be ordering from Wilde's site though.
I'd really like to try a steel frame. It's the last frame material out of the main 4, that I haven't tried yet. I'd be ordering from Wilde's site though.
I am 6'5 and that is too low of a stack height and too short of a reach.
Everyone has different body geometry, so that may work for you, it's just surprising.
A Fairlight Secan frameset is worth considering, as well as a Stinner Refugio Select. They have similar geometry to one another that isn't sluggish.
The Fairlight is extremely well designed and thought out, and has a ton of geometry options.
The Stinner is a MUSA frame.
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You fit a bike with 618mm stack and 398mm reach?
I am 6'5 and that is too low of a stack height and too short of a reach.
Everyone has different body geometry, so that may work for you, it's just surprising.
A Fairlight Secan frameset is worth considering, as well as a Stinner Refugio Select. They have similar geometry to one another that isn't sluggish.
The Fairlight is extremely well designed and thought out, and has a ton of geometry options.
The Stinner is a MUSA frame.
I am 6'5 and that is too low of a stack height and too short of a reach.
Everyone has different body geometry, so that may work for you, it's just surprising.
A Fairlight Secan frameset is worth considering, as well as a Stinner Refugio Select. They have similar geometry to one another that isn't sluggish.
The Fairlight is extremely well designed and thought out, and has a ton of geometry options.
The Stinner is a MUSA frame.
What do you consider a good stack and reach for you?
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I have a bike with lower stack and only 6 mm more reach. Reach is a non issue, in reality. Just use a different stem. I always just buy the biggest frame in whatever bike I'm buying and ride it. I'm probably not as sensitive to geometry as folks who have been riding decades.
What do you consider a good stack and reach for you?
What do you consider a good stack and reach for you?
410mm reach
I have road bikes with 635mm stack and 640mm stack and get by OK for road.
No criticism from my end on what fits you- everyone's limbs are different and that's why it is awesome bikes come in so many different geometry setups.
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For example, my old model 3T Exploro Pro has a stack of 604 and a reach of 402, IIRC, and my Haanjo has a stack of 636 and a reach of 400. My 3T Exploro Ultra is 632 stack and 399 reach. Lynskey GR300 has a 635 stack and 400 reach. My Solo 30 is closer to what you prefer at 641 stack and 414 reach.
All of these feel fine, but I definitely notice the 3T Pro's lower stack, and I do notice the longer reach on the Solo, but they both still feel good to me. Or, maybe I should say neither bother me on longer rides. They're all running 100-110 mm stems.
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Not fair, a sexy steel frame with purple accents...10 out of 10 really good looking.









