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AOSTIRMOTOR 12-28-21 07:50 PM

Advantages of Using Integrated Wheel
 
The main material of the body wheels is magnesium alloy or carbon fiber. It is heavier than spoke wheels and has greater inertia, which is conducive to fast riding. It is used to pursue speed on flat roads and is suitable for professional racing competitions. In addition, what are the advantages of integrated wheels?

1. One-piece wheel is a bearing rotating structure, which rotates very smoothly.

2. The stability is very good. In the riding process, the one-piece wheel is not easy to swing and does not need to be debugged.

3. Large inertia, suitable for racing competitions.

To sum up, if you have any supplements, please leave messages, and we will answer them for you at the first time.

Doc_Wui 12-28-21 08:48 PM

I didn't think alloy wheels were that much heavier than spoked wheels but if more inertia is a feature, get them out of here. That's the last thing I want in my bike wheels.

AOSTIRMOTOR 12-28-21 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by Doc_Wui (Post 22354382)
I didn't think alloy wheels were that much heavier than spoked wheels but if more inertia is a feature, get them out of here. That's the last thing I want in my bike wheels.

Thank you very much for your reply. Maybe the spoke wheel is a better choice for you.

2old 12-29-21 11:08 AM

Every article on handling of bikes, motorcycles etc that I've ever read, if it mentions the subject of unsprung weight, decries any additional weight as a negative influence to suspension performance, steering precision and every aspect of comfort and handling on a bike.

cat0020 12-29-21 12:43 PM

It still depends on the type of riding you do.
If performance riding is what you do, looking to save every ounce of (rotational) weight; cast alloy wheels may not be the best suited for your purpose.
If you're looking for strong wheels that require minimal (wheel) maintenance and your riding is casual; cast (alloy) wheels may last you a long long time without worry.
Right tool for the right job.

2old 12-29-21 01:08 PM

Even for the most casual riding, any excess weight (especially in the wheels) deters from my enjoyment since it influences steering, magnifies every road imperfection and makes the cumbersome behemoth less enjoyable. I'm not talking about needing to be a weight weenie, just normal components. Of course maybe it's a big plus on the roller skating rink.

fooferdoggie 12-29-21 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by 2old (Post 22355033)
Even for the most casual riding, any excess weight (especially in the wheels) deters from my enjoyment since it influences steering, magnifies every road imperfection and makes the cumbersome behemoth less enjoyable. I'm not talking about needing to be a weight weenie, just normal components. Of course maybe it's a big plus on the roller skating rink.

Plus those solid wheels tend to be very cheaply made thats why you see them on such low end e bikes.

2old 12-29-21 03:16 PM

You mean like suspension components that are basically a stiff spring that controls input like a Pogo stick? Walmart is full of them.

AOSTIRMOTOR 12-29-21 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by cat0020 (Post 22354999)
It still depends on the type of riding you do.
If performance riding is what you do, looking to save every ounce of (rotational) weight; cast alloy wheels may not be the best suited for your purpose.
If you're looking for strong wheels that require minimal (wheel) maintenance and your riding is casual; cast (alloy) wheels may last you a long long time without worry.
Right tool for the right job.

Thank you very much for your reply. You are right, the right tools are for the right work.

veganbikes 12-29-21 11:39 PM

So are you here trying to spam or what? The posts you make while not actually selling anything are always odd. It is not really something to spark debate more just a sales pitch without a direct link to product.

For those looking spokes are handy. Being able to true a wheel is quite useful whereas a one piece wheel has to be made precisely otherwise it is a good boat anchor (potentially) and not useful as a wheel.

late 12-30-21 09:26 AM

Just no.

fooferdoggie 12-30-21 09:35 AM

its like trying to sell a yugo to someone that owns a Porsche

2old 12-30-21 11:08 AM

Doesn't this go against the rules of the forum about advertising? Also, look at the site (that's what the posts are aiming for, obviously); there's no questions needed about those bikes. Time for the ignore function to be used.

veganbikes 12-30-21 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by AOSTIRMOTOR (Post 22355576)
Thank you very much for pointing out my shortcomings . And thank you for your reply. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us.

Contact "us"? Why would multiple people need one account. Shortcomings are different from advertising.

Here is my question to everyone who uses your account, what is the point of the account?

AOSTIRMOTOR 12-30-21 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by 2old (Post 22355949)
Doesn't this go against the rules of the forum about advertising? Also, look at the site (that's what the posts are aiming for, obviously); there's no questions needed about those bikes. Time for the ignore function to be used.

First of all, thank you for your reply. Secondly, I am very sorry to make you misunderstand that we are advertising. We just want to be able to communicate together. Finally, I wish you a happy day.

AOSTIRMOTOR 12-30-21 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by veganbikes (Post 22356488)
Contact "us"? Why would multiple people need one account. Shortcomings are different from advertising.

Here is my question to everyone who uses your account, what is the point of the account?

Thank you very much for your reply. Sorry for your misunderstanding, "we" here not only refers to my account, but refers to all accounts that you can see. And will pay attention to my words in the future. I wish you a happy day.

veganbikes 12-31-21 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by AOSTIRMOTOR (Post 22356570)
Thank you very much for your reply. Sorry for your misunderstanding, "we" here not only refers to my account, but refers to all accounts that you can see. And will pay attention to my words in the future. I wish you a happy day.

You are so nice thank you for that but I am still curious are you just a random person or do you work for a company that is trying to sell a e-bike brand.

Have a great new year!

AOSTIRMOTOR 01-03-22 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by 2old (Post 22354870)
Every article on handling of bikes, motorcycles etc that I've ever read, if it mentions the subject of unsprung weight, decries any additional weight as a negative influence to suspension performance, steering precision and every aspect of comfort and handling on a bike.

Thank you for your reply. You're right.

AOSTIRMOTOR 01-03-22 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by 2old (Post 22355033)
Even for the most casual riding, any excess weight (especially in the wheels) deters from my enjoyment since it influences steering, magnifies every road imperfection and makes the cumbersome behemoth less enjoyable. I'm not talking about needing to be a weight weenie, just normal components. Of course maybe it's a big plus on the roller skating rink.

Thank you very much for your reply.

AOSTIRMOTOR 01-03-22 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by fooferdoggie (Post 22355040)
Plus those solid wheels tend to be very cheaply made thats why you see them on such low end e bikes.

Thank you very much for your reply. you are right.

cat0020 01-04-22 08:22 AM

Topic of thread is: Advantages of Using Integrated Wheel.
How many posts actually provide info about topic of thread?
I'd like to think threads in this forum are informative and related to topic of thread.

I have used ebikes with cast wheels, I do find there are advantages to the usage of cast wheels over spoked wheels.
The cast wheels application on ebikes may not suit performance type cycling, but would a performance oriented cyclist really want to have lightweight wheels on a ebike with weight penalty of motor & battery?
For people who just want reliable wheels, minimal maintenance; they offer good alternatives to spoked wheels.
With the extra weight penalty factor in ebikes (vs regular bicycles) in general, weight of cast wheels really is not significant when you consider the weight of motor and battery.
With extra power output & weight of ebikes (vs regular bicycles), stronger (cast) wheels are really more ideal than (cheap) spoked wheels.

Doc_Wui 01-04-22 10:51 AM

Electric or not, I can feel the weight of a steel rim or a heavy 4" wide tire, when riding. They're harder to pedal, and need more electrical power to help out.

2old 01-04-22 12:07 PM

Who said cast wheels are stronger? Why would anyone on any bike for any purpose want a feature that is less safe, less comfortable, detracts from handling and can't be repaired? These were the issues discussed, but in addition, some responses rightfully addressed the question of whether the OP was trying to promote its business since the screen name is the name of a company.

cat0020 01-04-22 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by 2old (Post 22361378)
Who said cast wheels are stronger? Why would anyone on any bike for any purpose want a feature that is less safe, less comfortable, detracts from handling and can't be repaired? These were the issues discussed, but in addition, some responses rightfully addressed the question of whether the OP was trying to promote its business since the screen name is the name of a company.

I did, as an ebike owner that comes with cast wheels.

Just how exactly do you consider a cast wheel to be less safe, less comfortable and detract from handling?

Millions of cars & motorcycles have cast wheels, if they are in deed, as you said; less safe, less comfortable and detract from handling; wouldn't they have gone obsolete a long time ago?

Regardless of OP's screen name, the thread title clearly indicate the thread topic, do you have anything to contribute or related to thread topic?

ThermionicScott 01-04-22 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by veganbikes (Post 22357668)
You are so nice thank you for that but I am still curious are you just a random person or do you work for a company that is trying to sell a e-bike brand.

Thank you for saying it. :lol: OP is like one of those anonymous blogs that generates "content" yet shares nothing on a personal level. But also sells no specific products, so the purpose is a mystery...

2old 01-04-22 02:50 PM

Who knows if cast wheels are stronger or necessary? How does it evade you that my comments are related directly to the subject of "advantages", just because there are none? Just because the pieces of junk you ride are adequate for the NY urban environment doesn't imply they're anything but boat anchors with motors. DONE! Rant on.

cat0020 01-04-22 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by 2old (Post 22361627)
Who knows if cast wheels are stronger or necessary? How does it evade you that my comments are related directly to the subject of "advantages", just because there are none? Just because the pieces of junk you ride are adequate for the NY urban environment doesn't imply they're anything but boat anchors with motors. DONE! Rant on.

I know because I ride them, do you ride them enough to know their advantages?
Plenty of spoked wheels that may be lightweight, but trash when it comes to durability.
Can you specify the 'piece of junk' that I ride? have you ridden it yourself to give a decent comparison?
Do you even know what kind of riding I am doing with my 'piece of junk'?
When you can't provide specific comparison but have to reduce to personal insult of OP's name or my riding equipment; that's really sad if you consider it as 'rant'.

AOSTIRMOTOR 01-04-22 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by cat0020 (Post 22361088)
Topic of thread is: Advantages of Using Integrated Wheel.
How many posts actually provide info about topic of thread?
I'd like to think threads in this forum are informative and related to topic of thread.

I have used ebikes with cast wheels, I do find there are advantages to the usage of cast wheels over spoked wheels.
The cast wheels application on ebikes may not suit performance type cycling, but would a performance oriented cyclist really want to have lightweight wheels on a ebike with weight penalty of motor & battery?
For people who just want reliable wheels, minimal maintenance; they offer good alternatives to spoked wheels.
With the extra weight penalty factor in ebikes (vs regular bicycles) in general, weight of cast wheels really is not significant when you consider the weight of motor and battery.
With extra power output & weight of ebikes (vs regular bicycles), stronger (cast) wheels are really more ideal than (cheap) spoked wheels.

Thank you very much for your reply. You are right. With extra power output & weight of ebikes (vs regular bicycles), stronger (cast) wheels are really more ideal than (cheap) spoked wheels.

AOSTIRMOTOR 01-04-22 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by Doc_Wui (Post 22361276)
Electric or not, I can feel the weight of a steel rim or a heavy 4" wide tire, when riding. They're harder to pedal, and need more electrical power to help out.

Thank you for your reply. Indeed, they need more electricity power to help.

AOSTIRMOTOR 01-04-22 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by 2old (Post 22361378)
Who said cast wheels are stronger? Why would anyone on any bike for any purpose want a feature that is less safe, less comfortable, detracts from handling and can't be repaired? These were the issues discussed, but in addition, some responses rightfully addressed the question of whether the OP was trying to promote its business since the screen name is the name of a company.

Thank you very much for your reply. I do not quite understand what you mean. If you have any questions, please leave a message in the comment area, and everyone is welcome to answer your questions together.


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