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#26
Senior Member

Joined: Jul 2010
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From: Worcester, MA, USA
Bikes: State 4130 Road, Mongoose Elroy, Aventon Sinch ST, Dawes Lightning DLX, 1988 Klein Performance, 1991 Peugeot Safari, 1985 Raleigh Alyeska, Carrera Phantom, 1973 Raleigh Record
Another thought crossed my mind while I was looking at the specs on my Aventon Sinch ST a couple days ago: The advertised motor power in watts is pretty much meaningless. It's perhaps useful for comparing models from one brand, but it's not comparable between brands.
My Sinch was advertised as having a 500W motor, but the on-bike display has a screen that reports it as 750W. Either way, even unlocked, motor assist cuts off at 28 MPH on the Turbo (highest) setting.
My Sinch was advertised as having a 500W motor, but the on-bike display has a screen that reports it as 750W. Either way, even unlocked, motor assist cuts off at 28 MPH on the Turbo (highest) setting.
#27
Clark W. Griswold




Joined: Mar 2014
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From: ,location, location
Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26
Another thought crossed my mind while I was looking at the specs on my Aventon Sinch ST a couple days ago: The advertised motor power in watts is pretty much meaningless. It's perhaps useful for comparing models from one brand, but it's not comparable between brands.
My Sinch was advertised as having a 500W motor, but the on-bike display has a screen that reports it as 750W. Either way, even unlocked, motor assist cuts off at 28 MPH on the Turbo (highest) setting.
My Sinch was advertised as having a 500W motor, but the on-bike display has a screen that reports it as 750W. Either way, even unlocked, motor assist cuts off at 28 MPH on the Turbo (highest) setting.
#28
Clark W. Griswold




Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 18,379
Likes: 6,707
From: ,location, location
Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26
Nothing about a RadPower that is heavy duty, heavy yes, doody yes but don't combine the two. Cheap hub drives, with lower quality frames and it took them how many years to just put some cheap hydraulic brakes on it vs the ultra cheap no-name cable actuated brakes that are not designed around heavy e-bikes and really just for the cheapest of hybrids. I mean people are putting kids on a bike with those things and carrying them around with such poor stopping power and loose low quality parts and call that OK.
Certainly their support has gotten slightly better compared to the others who make similar products but the quality just isn't there and the support isn't great compared to Bosch, Brose, Shimano...
Certainly their support has gotten slightly better compared to the others who make similar products but the quality just isn't there and the support isn't great compared to Bosch, Brose, Shimano...
#29
Commuter, roadie



Joined: Jun 2022
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From: SE Wisconsin, USA
Bikes: Trek: Domane AL3, Checkpoint SL7; Priority Apollo 11, ZiZZO Forte + eBikes
Nothing about a RadPower that is heavy duty, heavy yes, doody yes but don't combine the two. Cheap hub drives, with lower quality frames and it took them how many years to just put some cheap hydraulic brakes on it vs the ultra cheap no-name cable actuated brakes that are not designed around heavy e-bikes and really just for the cheapest of hybrids. I mean people are putting kids on a bike with those things and carrying them around with such poor stopping power and loose low quality parts and call that OK.
Certainly their support has gotten slightly better compared to the others who make similar products but the quality just isn't there and the support isn't great compared to Bosch, Brose, Shimano...
Certainly their support has gotten slightly better compared to the others who make similar products but the quality just isn't there and the support isn't great compared to Bosch, Brose, Shimano...
I suspect that Rad decided (after a few lawsuits) to provide better braking than is necessary rather than having to keep showing up in court for when someone overloaded the bike, then burned up the brakes doing down a big hill and crashed.
Seems the original owners may have been sued out of business over perceived braking issues. (class action re. the combination of QR + disc brakes, and then another wrongful death suit for a couple girls who went together on one down a steep hill and found the brakes lacking, piling them into a wall.
I was glad to see through axle design on the front of my Level.2 the other day. The QR skewers on my daughter's XP Lite need monitoring. No safety issue so far, but they get out of alignment and have the brakes rubbing after a bumpy ride.
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#30
Clark W. Griswold




Joined: Mar 2014
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From: ,location, location
Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26
Hydraulic brakes are one of those features that is nice to have but not necessary. Mechanical with decent leverage and the right amount of surface area is enough.
I suspect that Rad decided (after a few lawsuits) to provide better braking than is necessary rather than having to keep showing up in court for when someone overloaded the bike, then burned up the brakes doing down a big hill and crashed.
Seems the original owners may have been sued out of business over perceived braking issues. (class action re. the combination of QR + disc brakes, and then another wrongful death suit for a couple girls who went together on one down a steep hill and found the brakes lacking, piling them into a wall.
I was glad to see through axle design on the front of my Level.2 the other day. The QR skewers on my daughter's XP Lite need monitoring. No safety issue so far, but they get out of alignment and have the brakes rubbing after a bumpy ride.
I suspect that Rad decided (after a few lawsuits) to provide better braking than is necessary rather than having to keep showing up in court for when someone overloaded the bike, then burned up the brakes doing down a big hill and crashed.
Seems the original owners may have been sued out of business over perceived braking issues. (class action re. the combination of QR + disc brakes, and then another wrongful death suit for a couple girls who went together on one down a steep hill and found the brakes lacking, piling them into a wall.
I was glad to see through axle design on the front of my Level.2 the other day. The QR skewers on my daughter's XP Lite need monitoring. No safety issue so far, but they get out of alignment and have the brakes rubbing after a bumpy ride.
#32
Newbie
Joined: Oct 2025
Posts: 14
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From: Netherland
Bikes: Lynxcle City eBike, Lynxcle Utility eBike
You’ve described your needs really clearly — torque and comfort matter a lot, especially for hill climbing and heavier loads.
It’s a good way to compare bikes before buying or to see whether you’d benefit from a stronger mid-drive system.
It’s a good way to compare bikes before buying or to see whether you’d benefit from a stronger mid-drive system.
#33
Senior Member

Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 641
Likes: 359
From: Worcester, MA, USA
Bikes: State 4130 Road, Mongoose Elroy, Aventon Sinch ST, Dawes Lightning DLX, 1988 Klein Performance, 1991 Peugeot Safari, 1985 Raleigh Alyeska, Carrera Phantom, 1973 Raleigh Record
I have no complaints with the stopping power of the mechanical disc brakes on my Aventon Sinch ST. I suspect mechanical brakes may need more frequent adjustment than hydraulics, but on the other hand you never have to bleed them.




