My favorite reviewer on YT, Scott Hardesty, recently exposed some false advertising on the part of Aipas regarding their reported IPX ratings…you may want to look it up if you own an Aipas bike

I saw the one you posted in the other forum about UL certifications. What they were doing was pretty sketchy, and he held them to account, even though they asked him to take his video down. (he declined, thus keeping his integrity) Furthermore, he made future videos to follow through on the issue. As a former UL engineer and current UL customer, I can tell what they did was to illegally use the UL mark or claim of certification before the certification was done. It seems like eventually, they DID get UL Listing, but not until well after they'd claimed it.

When UL customers get caught doing this, UL makes it very hard on them. Instead of inspecting quarterly, they inspect monthly or even more often and dig deeper to make sure they're not doing anything else wrong. OR, they supervise the removal of their mark from the products and literature and pull it down from their certifications database online. (https://iq.ulprospector.com/en)

Were they being sketchy about IP ratings too? (dust & waterproofness) Or did you mix that up with safety certifications?

Perhaps I confused the two Jeremy - like have to go back and review the vids

EDIT: just reviewed and it has to do with the UL certification of the Samsung battery cells

Those fake UL claims could get quite dangerous as I have seen a battery go thermal luckily we were able to contain it before it started a fire but we had those protocols and proper battery kits from Call2Recycle so we knew exactly what to do. Imagine someone at home burning down their house or apartment to think they saved a couple bucks on some no-name e-vehicle or it happening at a shop that didn't have the C2R battery protocols in place. Hopefully this company and all related to it get shut down and fined heavily so we don't have anyone getting hurt. Lithium Ion fires are no joke, I have seen a few stories of shops burning down because of it and it scares the crap out me. I am sure stories like this are all too common and sometimes not reported upon or noticed because the market is just so big and hard to regulate overseas.

It’s is unfortunate that buyers of budget friendly bikes are deceived like this - they seemed to be decent bikes, but lies will degrade consumer confidence

Great of Scott to call them out

They look like the same other stuff coming out of China that has whatever other different name on it. Nothing really of quality unless we are seeing something different. I was on A...bikes.com and I saw a similar website and similar bikes to about 100 other brands that may or may not still be around. They did make up fake reviews from known cycling magazines. I looked up BikeRadar and nothing about that brand, same thing with Electrek and Bicycling.

Looking at the site doesn't give off a vibe of confidence and I have a feeling they have the constant sale deal where they put everything on sale 100% of the time which is about as honest as the reviews from the real cycling magazines that never reviewed their products and probably the other fake reviews listed on their website.

100/10 do not buy.

Agreed buyer beware

A local shop has at least six or seven of these "off brands" (Meelod, Freego etc) and the owner stated the warranty is one year for the motor and battery, two years for everything else. I think her husband is going to be a busy man since he seems to be the service tech. Really interesting looking around the shop which is crammed with bikes, and I don't know how a 750w, 48V aluminum bike with spoked wheels can weigh 90 pounds when a DIY can be built to weigh half of that.

I think there is something to be said about super budget e-bikes - I’m happy with my 2k bike but I am concerned about those who advertise a 999 or less bike - not sure quality is there

when I bought, the more I read, the more I wanted an established manufacturer with a good warranty and reputation