Walmart E-zip?
#202
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Sorry I copied the wrong version, just an order change:
Removing the rear wheel for tire repair
1) Loosen 15 mm axle nut on motor side.
2) Loosen 17 mm thin nut between dropout and motor mount (Requires thin (cone) wrench)
3) Loosen 5 mm bolt clamping motor mount to dropout
4) Slide motor mount forward, to loosen chain
5) Remove chain from motor sprocket
6) Remove the 6 bolts holding the motor to the motor mount. Be sure to save the 2 standoffs.
7) Remove motor from mount and hang from battery rack with twine, tape or whatever
8) Remove nut from 5mm adjusting screw on front of motor mount
9) Slide motor mount back to clear adjusting screw from dropout bracket
10) Loosen 15 mm axle on right side
11) Remove wheel with mount attached
12) Fix tire
13) Install by reversing steps 11 to 1
I should add a couple of us are working on a mod to make tire changing easier. It involves a master link in the 1/8 drive chain: motor to freewheel and a slotting out of the mount plate and possibly a bolt on reinforcing plate over the new slot. That means the mounting plate and motor would stay in place and the axle would come down thru the new mount plate dropout.
Also, in case anyone is curious, I'm working on a writing project (for 'work') at home today. When I get bored or blocked I come over here for a while. Seems to work for the project.
Removing the rear wheel for tire repair
1) Loosen 15 mm axle nut on motor side.
2) Loosen 17 mm thin nut between dropout and motor mount (Requires thin (cone) wrench)
3) Loosen 5 mm bolt clamping motor mount to dropout
4) Slide motor mount forward, to loosen chain
5) Remove chain from motor sprocket
6) Remove the 6 bolts holding the motor to the motor mount. Be sure to save the 2 standoffs.
7) Remove motor from mount and hang from battery rack with twine, tape or whatever
8) Remove nut from 5mm adjusting screw on front of motor mount
9) Slide motor mount back to clear adjusting screw from dropout bracket
10) Loosen 15 mm axle on right side
11) Remove wheel with mount attached
12) Fix tire
13) Install by reversing steps 11 to 1
I should add a couple of us are working on a mod to make tire changing easier. It involves a master link in the 1/8 drive chain: motor to freewheel and a slotting out of the mount plate and possibly a bolt on reinforcing plate over the new slot. That means the mounting plate and motor would stay in place and the axle would come down thru the new mount plate dropout.
Also, in case anyone is curious, I'm working on a writing project (for 'work') at home today. When I get bored or blocked I come over here for a while. Seems to work for the project.
#203
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But I think, maybe the print out of this procedure wrapped around the 17 mm cone wrench in my rack pack may have been the umbrella that kept rain off my rear tire for 1100 or so miles. Wait, did you hear thunder? One should never tempt the gods.
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I love it! In 12 miles the meter never goes below yellow.
It was pretty simple. And the charger now charges both at the same time.
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any pictures?
thanks.
#207
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Lynn, I think you just alluded to one of the characteristics of umm maturity, mine. I remember doing things the way you got the wheel off and being happy and on to the next. Now I tend to plan where to put the bread crumbs while I'm kneading the dough. Not always a good thing. Sometimes you knead too long and the bread doesn't rise.
But I think, maybe the print out of this procedure wrapped around the 17 mm cone wrench in my rack pack may have been the umbrella that kept rain off my rear tire for 1100 or so miles. Wait, did you hear thunder? One should never tempt the gods.
But I think, maybe the print out of this procedure wrapped around the 17 mm cone wrench in my rack pack may have been the umbrella that kept rain off my rear tire for 1100 or so miles. Wait, did you hear thunder? One should never tempt the gods.
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A couple of thoughts: It sounds like your saying that you tied the two battery leads together, hooked them both to one side of the switch or whatever. Doesn't it take twice as long to charge them now, since they are each getting only half the charger current?
And does this fix the convenience of toggling issue?
Last edited by donob08; 07-04-08 at 04:26 AM.
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#210
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Ha! Well, Mr. 4:40AM, I'm just a nightowl, like you, apparently. You are probably still asleep right now, while I'm having my first cupajoe.
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Hi Mike, yes, it will probably work, but hang onto it! I was trying to walk it up a really steep hill the other day, using the throttle to help, and I could barely hang on to the dang thing! It was like trying to hang on to a bolting pony!
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For those of you who have been held spellbound by my rear-tire-removal-to-fix-a-flat saga (and I know you are legion), I just wanted to brag that I got the tire and motor back on just now. Not only did I not have a trail of breadcrumbs, but all the nuts and bolts that I had so carefully laid out in order got bumped into a tumble. But I got it back on, with only one lone washer left over!
I'm just bragging because I've never even changed a tire before, let alone removed a motor. So I'm gonna strut around for awhile, then go for a ride!

I'm just bragging because I've never even changed a tire before, let alone removed a motor. So I'm gonna strut around for awhile, then go for a ride!
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Lynn, I'm glad your sense of humor could absorb my comment. No, I wasn't asleep. I was out with my best girl. From what I know, as years go by, you sleep when it feels good and for some it may be better to get up at the other times and do stuff. It may be, that in this regard, you're mature beyond your years.
Don
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Chris, Nice work!
A couple of thoughts: It sounds like your saying that you tied the two battery leads together, hooked them both to one side of the switch or whatever. Doesn't it take twice as long to charge them now, since they are each getting only half the charger current?
And does this fix the convenience of toggling issue?
A couple of thoughts: It sounds like your saying that you tied the two battery leads together, hooked them both to one side of the switch or whatever. Doesn't it take twice as long to charge them now, since they are each getting only half the charger current?
And does this fix the convenience of toggling issue?
I tied the leads that come into the switch. Ill try to open it up and snap a pic or draw a diagram up.
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[QUOTE=WJChris;7002538]It seems to take less time to charge. They are green before I get off work (9 hours, no time during the day to check!) No more toggling, I can switch the switch to any side now and both power me down the road.
Chris some more thoughts. It sounds like this works for you and that’s the important thing. I’m sliding toward theory rather than applied when I offer another view. The Currie people (whoever they are) could easily have left that switch out, its parts cost is probably $10 retail. I think they put it in there to give the rider control. For some riders there is an advantage of the rider controlling how the batteries discharge rather than leaving it up to the efficiency of ion transfer, the gods or whatever. For others no advantage.
The way I ride, I could do your 12 mile ride to work on one battery no switching , no parallel, just go and still have charge left and recharge the battery in 8 hours and I’m pretty sure have some time for a float charge.
But sometimes I ride 20miles out on hilly roads, once 25 miles before I recharge. That takes some management. To do an 8 hour recharge of two depleted batteries it requires two chargers: 2 amp for each not 2 amps shared, 1 amp each. What you’re doing works for you. 12 miles is not too trying. If you were to want to go farther it would be different. The fact that the light never left yellow on the way out wouldn’t have much significance if you couldn’t make it 20 miles home after an 8 hour charge on a single charger. All this is academic. If you’re happy, I’m happy for you.
About toggling, there is the issue of controller shutdown after 5 or whatever minutes because the rider has been saving the battery or batteries. That still requires getting to the “center” / no connection state before going to either or both of the connected states. I think that issue may be a concern to more people than parallel vs. selectable sequential connection
Chris some more thoughts. It sounds like this works for you and that’s the important thing. I’m sliding toward theory rather than applied when I offer another view. The Currie people (whoever they are) could easily have left that switch out, its parts cost is probably $10 retail. I think they put it in there to give the rider control. For some riders there is an advantage of the rider controlling how the batteries discharge rather than leaving it up to the efficiency of ion transfer, the gods or whatever. For others no advantage.
The way I ride, I could do your 12 mile ride to work on one battery no switching , no parallel, just go and still have charge left and recharge the battery in 8 hours and I’m pretty sure have some time for a float charge.
But sometimes I ride 20miles out on hilly roads, once 25 miles before I recharge. That takes some management. To do an 8 hour recharge of two depleted batteries it requires two chargers: 2 amp for each not 2 amps shared, 1 amp each. What you’re doing works for you. 12 miles is not too trying. If you were to want to go farther it would be different. The fact that the light never left yellow on the way out wouldn’t have much significance if you couldn’t make it 20 miles home after an 8 hour charge on a single charger. All this is academic. If you’re happy, I’m happy for you.
About toggling, there is the issue of controller shutdown after 5 or whatever minutes because the rider has been saving the battery or batteries. That still requires getting to the “center” / no connection state before going to either or both of the connected states. I think that issue may be a concern to more people than parallel vs. selectable sequential connection
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For those of you who have been held spellbound by my rear-tire-removal-to-fix-a-flat saga (and I know you are legion), I just wanted to brag that I got the tire and motor back on just now. Not only did I not have a trail of breadcrumbs, but all the nuts and bolts that I had so carefully laid out in order got bumped into a tumble. But I got it back on, with only one lone washer left over!
I'm just bragging because I've never even changed a tire before, let alone removed a motor. So I'm gonna strut around for awhile, then go for a ride!

I'm just bragging because I've never even changed a tire before, let alone removed a motor. So I'm gonna strut around for awhile, then go for a ride!
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[quote=WJChris;7002538]It seems to take less time to charge. They are green before I get off work (9 hours, no time during the day to check!) No more toggling, I can switch the switch to any side now and both power me down the road.
Chris
My mind just churns on this stuff while I'm doing other things. An idea toward the 'optimum' solution. How about another switch in parallel with the switch, as designed, that would, if desired short the two poles together. That way there would be two options: 1) I need to control, long trip. 2) Short trip, do what you do.
Depleting the two batt packs less on a short trip or any trip is good for the batteries longevity. Parallel, on a short trip, may do this better than the attention any of us are willing to pay.
Don
Chris
My mind just churns on this stuff while I'm doing other things. An idea toward the 'optimum' solution. How about another switch in parallel with the switch, as designed, that would, if desired short the two poles together. That way there would be two options: 1) I need to control, long trip. 2) Short trip, do what you do.
Depleting the two batt packs less on a short trip or any trip is good for the batteries longevity. Parallel, on a short trip, may do this better than the attention any of us are willing to pay.
Don
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About toggling, there is the issue of controller shutdown after 5 or whatever minutes because the rider has been saving the battery or batteries. That still requires getting to the “center” / no connection state before going to either or both of the connected states. I think that issue may be a concern to more people than parallel vs. selectable sequential connection
I have never had the shut down issue... I still use the motor too much, due to the hills. Even on flat ground, this bike is just really lethargic. Maybe I get used to the help from the motor and when I turn it off it is too much of a difference, it truly feels like I am riding on 2 flat tires without the motor!!!!
In my situation, I believe this setup to be optimum, as I ONLY ride this bike to work and back.
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Every thing you said makes sense. The idea is to do what works for each of us as individuals. That's part of why we have machines that are individually fiddleable.
Oh, and you have checked your tire pressure 60# ;-)
Oh, and you have checked your tire pressure 60# ;-)
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Chris another idea trying to get at your two flat tire sensation. Have you checked that the return spring pressure is equalized left to right on both your front and back brakes? There are screws on each side of each brake so you can tweak it and be sure that when the brakes release both L and R pads come free of the rim (ideally by the same amount).
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How2 if you do mount those front racks, you need to change the brake spring tension screws from phillips to allen head. With the racks there you can't get a screw deriver to the screws.




60 pounds from day 1