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Rain Rain Rain
I am in the process of doing my first ebike build in the North West, so it is kind of an understatement that we get some rain around here. I just was wondering if anyone had any suggestions as far as weather resistance of electric motors. I don't plan on doing anything off road with this bike but I will have a 19 mile commute over the west hills of Portland. Any guidance or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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When you go on Endless Sphere forums you can read tens of posts about weatherproofing of hub motors.
Everything from painting rotors, applying tons of silicone , etc.
The thing is that good quality ebike motors do not need any weatherproofing, cheap ones run-off the mill of course need.
here is the example of USA-designed and manufactured brushless direct drive motor after 25,000 km , just before reaching 26,000 km. Bike is used in harsh Canadian winter, day after day, winter after winter, in snow, salt, cold rain , minus 10C temperatures.
I added silicone on the wires, no need for it.
Everything from painting rotors, applying tons of silicone , etc.
The thing is that good quality ebike motors do not need any weatherproofing, cheap ones run-off the mill of course need.
here is the example of USA-designed and manufactured brushless direct drive motor after 25,000 km , just before reaching 26,000 km. Bike is used in harsh Canadian winter, day after day, winter after winter, in snow, salt, cold rain , minus 10C temperatures.
I added silicone on the wires, no need for it.
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Thanks for your reply, I agree that something that is made well shouldn't need to be waterproofed further. If you don't mind me asking what brand do you have on your kit? I have been reading through endless sphere but yet to join or post anything yet, thanks for the suggestion.
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Tidal Force is not manufactured anymore , cheap China ebikes killed it. Familiar to you?
The design labs in Washington which designed TF carried on after TF bankruptcy and designed all new ebike drive FALCO.
FALCO is 5-phase, DD brushless edrive with controller inside motor, made in India -home country of leading engineer Rakhes /they had to move production from USA -cannot compete with China labour/
FALCO is manufactured with Western manufacturing procedures in place including QC procedure.
From tons of investigations I did I know that most of China/brand/ motors are made in horrible conditions with little or no
QC procedures.
Buying it is a hit and miss.
What other ebike manufacturer would offer 5-year warranty/!!!!/ only FALCO.
The design labs in Washington which designed TF carried on after TF bankruptcy and designed all new ebike drive FALCO.
FALCO is 5-phase, DD brushless edrive with controller inside motor, made in India -home country of leading engineer Rakhes /they had to move production from USA -cannot compete with China labour/
FALCO is manufactured with Western manufacturing procedures in place including QC procedure.
From tons of investigations I did I know that most of China/brand/ motors are made in horrible conditions with little or no
QC procedures.
Buying it is a hit and miss.
What other ebike manufacturer would offer 5-year warranty/!!!!/ only FALCO.
Last edited by powell; 02-12-15 at 07:11 PM.
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Bikes: 27 speed ORYX with over 39,000Kms on it and another 14,000KMs with a BionX E-Assist on it
BionX has extended some warranty too?...
At least I Got a brand new wheel and hub from them after 3 1/2 years, so they do stand behind their product...
At least I Got a brand new wheel and hub from them after 3 1/2 years, so they do stand behind their product... Last edited by 350htrr; 02-12-15 at 11:25 PM.
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in my BIONX manual page 25 there is all info about BIONX warranty and it says:
"the Bionx covers a two/2/ year period for all parts of the Bionx propulsion system...."
read all 2 pages abot warranty no mention of any 5 years.
so 2 years here in Canada in 2014. You are in Canada also but you bought how many years ago, maybe it was 5 years???
The sent you wheel free of charge??? after 0ver 3 years
that exceptional
"the Bionx covers a two/2/ year period for all parts of the Bionx propulsion system...."
read all 2 pages abot warranty no mention of any 5 years.
so 2 years here in Canada in 2014. You are in Canada also but you bought how many years ago, maybe it was 5 years???
The sent you wheel free of charge??? after 0ver 3 years
that exceptional
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From: Canada, PG BC
Bikes: 27 speed ORYX with over 39,000Kms on it and another 14,000KMs with a BionX E-Assist on it
I guess I shouldn't have said 5 years because I don't actually know how long the warranty was extended for, the dealer here just said BionX covered my wheel and motor even tho it was 3 1/2 years instead of the 2 years...
EDIT; I guess it's the "impression" I got from my LBS that BionX is going to be trying to "match" FALCOS 5 year warranty... Maybe not, JMO as they did fix my problem past my warranty expired date...
EDIT; I guess it's the "impression" I got from my LBS that BionX is going to be trying to "match" FALCOS 5 year warranty... Maybe not, JMO as they did fix my problem past my warranty expired date...
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