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The EU laws don't restrict maximum output, just output above of a specific focal plain. The new B&M IQ-X dyno light is about the equivalent of better 500 lumen battery lights, and matches the usable light of my 1200 lumen battery light at 150' and beyond.
Now that the new EU standards allow battery lights, I suspect we will see significantly brighter battery lights that function like true headlights.
I too desire bicycle lights that can stand with other vehicle lights on the road, I'm just not willing to do that at the expense of others ability to see the road. Fortunately with a combined output equivalent of 1700 lumen between the IQ-X, and Specialized flux expert I have all the light I could possibly need for any condition, and do it responsibly.
Now that the new EU standards allow battery lights, I suspect we will see significantly brighter battery lights that function like true headlights.
I too desire bicycle lights that can stand with other vehicle lights on the road, I'm just not willing to do that at the expense of others ability to see the road. Fortunately with a combined output equivalent of 1700 lumen between the IQ-X, and Specialized flux expert I have all the light I could possibly need for any condition, and do it responsibly.
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This 6 cell pack is 2S3P configuration - two sets of THREE cells in parallel. Same voltage. Longer run time because three cells gives you more mAH.
I use a 6 cell pack in the dead of winter when I need longer run time and the cold saps the cells power.
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I used to have the light that dim posted in #53 for quite a while. One day it suddenly shut off during the ride. It didn't break, just the charge was running out. After recharging, it's on again, but I didn't want to risk it shutting off without warning. It didn't go dimmer and dimmer first, just went from normal bright to completely off. The light itself was great, and very lightweight. Now I just use super bright flashlight that runs on 18650s, so that I can replace the batteries easily. By the way, wonder if anyone want to try this for 88 bucks: (let us know how bright it is if you do
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Thanks for the answers about the 6 cell pack used for the Chinese 4x18650 lights.
Perhaps a related question: all things being equal (number of LEDs and batteries), are those super long flashlights on 3x or 4x 18650's likely more powerful (brighter) than the stubby flashlights running on the same number of 18650's? (I have a stubby one which is very bright, but never tried the long type). Example:

Perhaps a related question: all things being equal (number of LEDs and batteries), are those super long flashlights on 3x or 4x 18650's likely more powerful (brighter) than the stubby flashlights running on the same number of 18650's? (I have a stubby one which is very bright, but never tried the long type). Example:
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There is this light now on sale; see: https://www.biketiresdirect.com/prod...f79ca-71332101
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Thanks for the answers about the 6 cell pack used for the Chinese 4x18650 lights.
Perhaps a related question: all things being equal (number of LEDs and batteries), are those super long flashlights on 3x or 4x 18650's likely more powerful (brighter) than the stubby flashlights running on the same number of 18650's? (I have a stubby one which is very bright, but never tried the long type). Example:
Perhaps a related question: all things being equal (number of LEDs and batteries), are those super long flashlights on 3x or 4x 18650's likely more powerful (brighter) than the stubby flashlights running on the same number of 18650's? (I have a stubby one which is very bright, but never tried the long type). Example:
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while overall length mostly reflects the orientation of internal batteries, the length may also affect the light. A longer design might allow more room for a deeper parabolic reflector, thereby making for a more concentrated beam, also with the emitter deeper, a bit less light escaped unfocused out the sides.
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while overall length mostly reflects the orientation of internal batteries, the length may also affect the light. A longer design might allow more room for a deeper parabolic reflector, thereby making for a more concentrated beam, also with the emitter deeper, a bit less light escaped unfocused out the sides.
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“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
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New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog
“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
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