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Old 05-20-22, 09:59 AM
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Buy the 1030+ or wait?

The Edge 1030+ is on sale right now. Tempting to buy a new computer as my 520 is on its last legs. BUT...I keep thinking an Edge 540 and/or 1040 is just around the corner.

So. Buy a new, yet older technology(?) now? Or wait potentially a year for the new Edge computers to be released.

Decisions, decisions...
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If you have to have the bleeding Edge technology and are willing to put up with all the warts from unforeseen issues that require software updates, then by all means wait till Garmin releases something new.

However for most people the Garmin 1030 plus is well proven and reliable. And you can get it right now.
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Originally Posted by NoWhammies View Post
The Edge 1030+ is on sale right now. Tempting to buy a new computer as my 520 is on its last legs. BUT...I keep thinking an Edge 540 and/or 1040 is just around the corner.

So. Buy a new, yet older technology(?) now? Or wait potentially a year for the new Edge computers to be released.

Decisions, decisions...
Usually if they're dropping the price to clear the current generation out, the new ones are a lot closer than a year. My crystal ball is broken so I don't know anything.
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If you have to have the bleeding Edge technology
I see what you did there.
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$150 off is 25%, a pretty good deal. It looks like REI has the same discount. The 130, 530, and 830 aren't on sale, I would think they would refresh the entire series at the same time?

Two clarifying questions for @NoWhammies:

Every new generation of watch has a higher price tag then the previous one. I don't know if that's the case with Edge computers? If so what are you willing to shell out for a 1040?

What kinds of improvements in a 1040 would be worth the $$ considering the current sale?
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It might be taxing to wait for the 1040.

And while the hardware might be available next month, it still might be a year until Garmin gets a stable software release out.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
$150 off is 25%, a pretty good deal. It looks like REI has the same discount. The 130, 530, and 830 aren't on sale, I would think they would refresh the entire series at the same time?

Two clarifying questions for @NoWhammies:

Every new generation of watch has a higher price tag then the previous one. I don't know if that's the case with Edge computers? If so what are you willing to shell out for a 1040?

What kinds of improvements in a 1040 would be worth the $$ considering the current sale?
The Plus is a pretty refined product. I cannot foresee what Garmin could add to the OS to charge more than the $700 they had the 1030 Plus at. Thus I think $450 is a very good buy.
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A better display would be wonderful. 🙂
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Old 05-20-22, 06:03 PM
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Garmin always seems to have some kind of sale around Memorial day on some of their cycling products. I got my 1030+ last year in May for $499 ($100 off). I noticed that this year the 515 was also on sale for $149 ($50) off now on the Garmin website.
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Also give a good look at a Hammerhead Karoo 2. Its a very polished and usable device. Arguably does navigation and TBT better than Garmin, certainly has nicer screens and maps. Doesn't have the battery life but thats sometimes only an issue if doing double centuries or touring someplace where you cannot charge and yiu can always run it on a battery stick. They are regularly updating, much better at bug fixes and updates than Garmin. The screen is only marginally smaller than a 1030.
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Also give a good look at a Hammerhead Karoo 2. Its a very polished and usable device. Arguably does navigation and TBT better than Garmin, certainly has nicer screens and maps. Doesn't have the battery life but thats sometimes only an issue if doing double centuries or touring someplace where you cannot charge and yiu can always run it on a battery stick. They are regularly updating, much better at bug fixes and updates than Garmin. The screen is only marginally smaller than a 1030.
well I have both and yes and no. not sure on the navigation its been awhile since I used the garmin for its and I only used the Karoo a few times both seemed fine.
but the Karoo has more blatant bugs. like the temp has been off since I have had it. It used to calibrate the altitude on a regular basis but now after several months it wont and the altitude will drift up or down.
it can reboot in the middle of the ride. they have been working on that but I still have it. for me this was a recent bug. it will lose connection with my phone so I don't see notifications. works well with the garmin radar but if you shut it off without ending a ride it will not turn the garmin off or on.
its slower than molasses booting up. I mean it takes minutes to do so then more time to get a ride going. if I go into a store I take the gps and the radar with me I have to turn off the Karoo or the radar goes off all the time in my pocket then I have to wait for it to boot up again and start the ride. this is a real announce. the garmin I hit stop and the power button and I am done then repeat to get going again. The screen is nicer and brighter than the garmin and the usb c a lot bette. Plus it does not turn on when I charge it like the gamin will. Its as loud as the 1030+ unlike most garmins.
The bugs on the Karoo are Moree blatant then the garmin the garmin is more stable. It's easier to add maps to the Karoo.
But the Karoo wont calculate calories burned and just recently headmost of your ride info on the web app.


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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post

Every new generation of watch has a higher price tag then the previous one. I don't know if that's the case with Edge computers? If so what are you willing to shell out for a 1040?

What kinds of improvements in a 1040 would be worth the $$ considering the current sale?
1. No. The only reason I am thinking of the 1030+ now is because one sale.
2. I am not sure TBH. Again, I am considering the 1030+ because a) the item is on sale and b) my eyesight is not what it used to be, so I am thinking the larger display would be beneficial.

Originally Posted by Steve B. View Post
Also give a good look at a Hammerhead Karoo 2. Its a very polished and usable device. Arguably does navigation and TBT better than Garmin, certainly has nicer screens and maps.
Thanks for the suggestion, but my life is pretty much ALL with Garmin. Just like Apple sucks you into their ecosystem so does Garmin. Or at least for me they did.

Originally Posted by Iride01 View Post
If you have to have the bleeding Edge technology and are willing to put up with all the warts from unforeseen issues that require software updates, then by all means wait till Garmin releases something new.

However for most people the Garmin 1030 plus is well proven and reliable. And you can get it right now.
I do not think I need bleeding edge technology. An upgrade to USB-C would be nice. But as I look around my desk I see loads of micro-USB connections. And I am not loading maps and whatnot onto my 520 regularly. So a fast connection is not a high priority. At least not right now.

And you bring up a good point about beta testing all of the issues for the latest release from Garmin. If memory serves there were some issues with the 530 when it was first released.

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Usually if they're dropping the price to clear the current generation out, the new ones are a lot closer than a year. My crystal ball is broken so I don't know anything.
Thus my worry. I'll shell out the bucks for the 1030+ and then Garmin will release the 540/1040 with some skookum feature that is leaps and bounds above that is currently being offered. What that feature IS though, I have no idea.
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Originally Posted by fooferdoggie View Post
well I have both and yes and no. not sure on the navigation its been awhile since I used the garmin for its and I only used the Karoo a few times both seemed fine.
but the Karoo has more blatant bugs. like the temp has been off since I have had it. It used to calibrate the altitude on a regular basis but now after several months it wont and the altitude will drift up or down.
it can reboot in the middle of the ride. they have been working on that but I still have it. for me this was a recent bug. it will lose connection with my phone so I don't see notifications. works well with the garmin radar but if you shut it off without ending a ride it will not turn the garmin off or on.
its slower than molasses booting up. I mean it takes minutes to do so then more time to get a ride going. if I go into a store I take the gps and the radar with me I have to turn off the Karoo or the radar goes off all the time in my pocket then I have to wait for it to boot up again and start the ride. this is a real announce. the garmin I hit stop and the power button and I am done then repeat to get going again. The screen is nicer and brighter than the garmin and the usb c a lot bette. Plus it does not turn on when I charge it like the gamin will. Its as loud as the 1030+ unlike most garmins.
The bugs on the Karoo are Moree blatant then the garmin the garmin is more stable. It's easier to add maps to the Karoo.
But the Karoo wont calculate calories burned and just recently headmost of your ride info on the web app.


All valid issues. One thing I do see is HH seems to make more of an effort to find and fix really glaring bugs. Faster then Garmin in most respects. And I wouldn't place much faith in ANYBODYS methods to calculate calories burned, I mean its a huge guessing game that doesnt have any basis in reality as far as Ive seen.
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All valid issues. One thing I do see is HH seems to make more of an effort to find and fix really glaring bugs. Faster then Garmin in most respects. And I wouldn't place much faith in ANYBODYS methods to calculate calories burned, I mean its a huge guessing game that doesnt have any basis in reality as far as Ive seen.
yes but the big bugs they have not really nailed. but they don't vet their software as well either so they make different bugs. I Know calories calculation is not accurate but at least give an idea. My bosch bike has a built in watt meter and the gram and it are usually pretty close on calories. but if left to itself strava goes way overboard the same with apple. I just want an idea how much I have to eat after a ride.
love the screen and the format but the boot tike is crazy slow my iPhone is faster. for my commuting and such it just drives me nuts how slow it is. but setup is so practical compared to garmin the touch screen is better too.
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Originally Posted by NoWhammies View Post
Thus my worry. I'll shell out the bucks for the 1030+ and then Garmin will release the 540/1040 with some skookum feature that is leaps and bounds above that is currently being offered. What that feature IS though, I have no idea.
I can't remember the watch you have? Fenix 7 series have a few new features that don't seem to have made it into the 1030+, like "stamina" which is like a countdown until it thinks you'll bonk. If you have a newer watch you might have it get those features anyway?
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This thread got my attention. I've been wanting a bike computer, but not in a hurry. I have a 130 and a Fenix 7. I would like a "Platform Center Offset" display, and maps would be of use to me sometimes. I value touch screen, especially for maps. This is a good price and I'll use the thing for years. On the other hand a friend offered to give me his 520+. That fits in my stem, I would have to buy this mount for the 1030+.

Any suggestions?
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yes but the big bugs they have not really nailed. but they don't vet their software as well either so they make different bugs. I Know calories calculation is not accurate but at least give an idea. My bosch bike has a built in watt meter and the gram and it are usually pretty close on calories. but if left to itself strava goes way overboard the same with apple. I just want an idea how much I have to eat after a ride.
love the screen and the format but the boot tike is crazy slow my iPhone is faster. for my commuting and such it just drives me nuts how slow it is. but setup is so practical compared to garmin the touch screen is better too.
Interesting. My boot time is longer than my 1030, but not terrible and it finds satellites quickly. By the time its booted, its ready to roll. Ive learned to time power up in my basement and by the time Im outside and ready to roll the units running.

Cant say its massivly better than a Garmin, though screen, map and displays are of better quality. One thing I dislike about HH is no BT connection for downloads or uploads. Having to be WiFi, Hotspot or SIM card connected is a PITA to me. The Garmin method of BT to a phone app that has cell data is so much easier to deal with, IME. As example I use Garmin LiveTrack all the time, it FINALLY is running reliably. HH pretty much needs a SiM card for this and I never had any luck getting a SIM card working, finally gave up. Thus I still use my 1030 about 50% of the time as it works reliably,

For $450, a 1030 Plus is a very good deal.
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It might be taxing to wait for the 1040..
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Here are leaked 1040 photos and some details about its feature set.
https://the5krunner.com/2022/05/21/g...-first-images/



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People seem to really like their 1030+, as opposed to people that have 1030's where the opinions are more mixed. I probably am not in the market for a gps that costs as much as the 1040 will, but the 1030+ is attractive. I doubt I will buy one because my 830 is meeting my needs. It came out after the 1030, and has some improvements over it.
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Can the 1030+ display a chart of your power during a ride like in the first 1040 screenshot above?
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Here are leaked 1040 photos and some details about its feature set.
https://the5krunner.com/2022/05/21/g...-first-images/

That thing is longer than my















Edge 530.
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That thing is longer than my















Edge 530.
The suspense was killing me!
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I may be off base on this but the photos of the 1040 screens displays data that the 1030 Plus already displays, but in a less graphical way. I suspect a firmware update to the 1030 Plus would enable it to display the data as it appears in the 1040 photos. Hopefully, I am right.
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Originally Posted by oldwinger14 View Post
I may be off base on this but the photos of the 1040 screens displays data that the 1030 Plus already displays, but in a less graphical way. I suspect a firmware update to the 1030 Plus would enable it to display the data as it appears in the 1040 photos. Hopefully, I am right.
How do you get the 1030+ to show stamina/potential?
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