how does a wireless speedo work?
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how does a wireless speedo work?
How exactly does a wireless speedo work? I'm about to buy a cat-eye micro-wireless speedo online and it says its "wireless", but that doesnt seem possible?? --what is wireless about it?
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There's a magnet attached to a spoke, a sensor attached to the fork (in line with the magnet), the sensor senses each time the magnet passes by (one wheel revolution) and sends a signal to the receiver (mounted on or near the handlebars). The "receiver" is also the brains of the unit, you enter wheel size info into it and it computes speed, distance, etc. based on that-
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AAhhhh, one with the sensor and 'receiver' connected with a wire.
What's not to understand? Wireless=no wire.
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What's not to understand? Wireless=no wire.
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Yep, that's it, it sends the signal from the fork to the receiving unit without a wire, therefore it's wireless. Follow the directions carefully when setting it up, they can be a little finicky, but once working, they're great-
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I've got several "wireless" computers and I don't really see the point.
Less reliability, more weight, higher cost and twice as many batteries to replace. Give me some advantages.
Less reliability, more weight, higher cost and twice as many batteries to replace. Give me some advantages.
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Originally Posted by well biked
Yep, that's it, it sends the signal from the fork to the receiving unit without a wire, therefore it's wireless. Follow the directions carefully when setting it up, they can be a little finicky, but once working, they're great-
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Originally Posted by operator
Not really. The wireless units will always be suceptible to outside interference, especially moreso in the city than in country.
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string?
and maybe a rolled sock.
and maybe a rolled sock.
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Originally Posted by I_bRAD
I've got several "wireless" computers and I don't really see the point.
Less reliability, more weight, higher cost and twice as many batteries to replace. Give me some advantages.
Less reliability, more weight, higher cost and twice as many batteries to replace. Give me some advantages.
you can use the same computer on two bikes (you just need a second sender unit, tuned to the same frequency).
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Originally Posted by I_bRAD
I've got several "wireless" computers and I don't really see the point.
Less reliability, more weight, higher cost and twice as many batteries to replace. Give me some advantages.
Less reliability, more weight, higher cost and twice as many batteries to replace. Give me some advantages.
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To answer the OP in better detail.
A wired cyclometer has a wheel magnet that passes a pickup placed near it on the fork. The pickup generates an electrical pulse every time the magnet passes it. That pulse travels up the wire to the cyclometer head where the pulse is counted and the interval between pulses timed. That information allows the cyclometer to calculate your speed and distance.
A wireless cyclometer has the same magnet except the pickup not only reads the magnetic pulse, it contains a small battery powered transmitter that sends that pulse as a radio signal. The cyclometer head has a receiver that reads that signal and does the same calculations as a wired cyclometer.
The tricky part is the sending unit and cyclometer head have to be aligned properly so the head "sees" the signal. Also, there are two batteries to be concerned with as both the sending unit and receiver have their own. And as noted, outside radio frequency sources can interrupt or interfer with the signal.
A wired cyclometer has a wheel magnet that passes a pickup placed near it on the fork. The pickup generates an electrical pulse every time the magnet passes it. That pulse travels up the wire to the cyclometer head where the pulse is counted and the interval between pulses timed. That information allows the cyclometer to calculate your speed and distance.
A wireless cyclometer has the same magnet except the pickup not only reads the magnetic pulse, it contains a small battery powered transmitter that sends that pulse as a radio signal. The cyclometer head has a receiver that reads that signal and does the same calculations as a wired cyclometer.
The tricky part is the sending unit and cyclometer head have to be aligned properly so the head "sees" the signal. Also, there are two batteries to be concerned with as both the sending unit and receiver have their own. And as noted, outside radio frequency sources can interrupt or interfer with the signal.
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As for these claims of problematic interference, I must be lucky and live in a wireless cyclometer-friendly city. I've used them for about five years and never had a problem with that. What happens during these periods of interference?
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Originally Posted by I_bRAD
I've got several "wireless" computers and I don't really see the point.
Less reliability, more weight, higher cost and twice as many batteries to replace. Give me some advantages.
Less reliability, more weight, higher cost and twice as many batteries to replace. Give me some advantages.
.ed rader
Last edited by erader; 03-22-07 at 10:04 PM.
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Originally Posted by operator
Not really. The wireless units will always be suceptible to outside interference, especially moreso in the city than in country.
ed rader
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Originally Posted by well biked
As for these claims of problematic interference, I must be lucky and live in a wireless cyclometer-friendly city. I've used them for about five years and never had a problem with that. What happens during these periods of interference?
.ed rader
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I use a wireless computer, live in the city, and yes I'm plagued by interferance on almost every ride. The only thing affected is my max speed which reads 74.9 most of the time. For $10? And I can easily swich it between bikes? Yeh, I can live with that.
P.S. I think indexing is overrated.
P.P.S. The max speed spike seams to be so brief that even though it jumps to a very high speed it doesn't affect my average speed, which I do tend to be interested in.
P.S. I think indexing is overrated.
P.P.S. The max speed spike seams to be so brief that even though it jumps to a very high speed it doesn't affect my average speed, which I do tend to be interested in.
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Originally Posted by erader
i think these claims are made by the same sorts who argued against index shifting. my wireless works flawlessly
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My funniest (funny=strange, not funny=hahaha) experience with RF interference was the heart rate monitor a friend was using at his doctor's recommendation after heart surgery a few years ago. It was a cheap, non-coded Nashbar unit since he didn't want to put out lot of money for temporary use.
We were riding easily and his heart rate was in the desired range when we passed an electrical substation. All of the sudden his heart rate reading spikes to 250 and then falls to zero! Talk about panic. It took a moment for us to realize why the reading suddenly got so alarming and it returned to normal about 1/4 mile later. His next purchase was an expensive but coded Polar monitor.
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Originally Posted by erader
i live in the city. my cateye wireless has never failed or shown any signs of being influenced by outside interference.
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Originally Posted by Wogsterca
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you can use the same computer on two bikes (you just need a second sender unit, tuned to the same frequency).
you can use the same computer on two bikes (you just need a second sender unit, tuned to the same frequency).
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I've ridden under 13800 volt transmission lines and never ever experienced any inteference with my wireless. The only thing that ever affected it was the antilock wheel sensor, which guess what uses a magnet to generate a pulse. The first time I saw that I couldn't understand how I could have ridden at 60mph and never even got on the bike. I had the computer sitting in a bag on the back seat of the car.
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Originally Posted by TurdFerguson2
You can also easily buy a second wired mount/sensor for a second bike. I suspect it is cheaper for a second wired mount/sensor than a wireless sender unit (but I may be wrong).





