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gear 08-01-07 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by kleng (Post 4968123)
The only downside with this mounting format is the tha dinotte angle gets the drivers fair square in the eyes, but I guess this the intention in the first place. There is no way to get is angled down below horizontal without making it too loose. So you might get some road rage when your out.

Four months ago I removed the Cateye 1000 I was using along with two other LED tailights. I mounted a Dinotte tail light using a conduit pipe hanger. I positioned the light so it would not only be angled up slightly but also to my left so that it is pointed directly in the eyes of motorists passing me from behind. There has been a dramatic shift in how I am passed now. The cars pull way over sometimes fully into the oncoming lane. Its like they don't want any part of me and my bike. Far from getting road rage, drivers are actually giving me a giant safety zone when they pass me. My advice is to point the light right at the drivers.

I should also mention that I upgraded from a 24w halogen headlight to a Lupine Wilma, I now get the "dim your headlights" signal from on comming cars, which I am more than happy to do as they pass me.

Bushman 08-09-07 12:42 AM

this is what i was talking about for mounting the Dinotte tail light to the seatpost. A shim may be required.

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/images/pr...041thorn_l.jpg

Zero_Enigma 08-09-07 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by derath (Post 4914913)
I have a topeak seatbag that has these elastic straps on the bottom. So i slip the light in the first strap, which holds it firmly. Then I loop the cord around the second strap, for safety in case the light were to bounce loose. Then finally I just tuck the AA pack into the seat bag itself. Works great.

-D

What seat bag model do you have? Also do you have images of your setup? Thanks.

Zero_Enigma 08-09-07 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by Bushman (Post 5032514)
this is what i was talking about for mounting the Dinotte tail light to the seatpost. A shim may be required.

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/images/pr...041thorn_l.jpg

Nice!! I need one of those slick looking items to mount my Superflashes horizontinal for wider spread and ambulance light style :D How much do those cost? How well do they hold up? What material is it made out of?

Thanks.

derath 08-09-07 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by Zero_Enigma (Post 5038108)
What seat bag model do you have? Also do you have images of your setup? Thanks.

I have a topeak Aero wedge. One of the type that has a click mounting attachment to the seat. I will take a picture of it tomorrow.

-D

derath 08-10-07 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by derath (Post 5039309)
I have a topeak Aero wedge. One of the type that has a click mounting attachment to the seat. I will take a picture of it tomorrow.

-D

Here you go

http://www.holoski.com/gallery/d/1890-1/DSCN2081.JPG
http://www.holoski.com/gallery/d/1893-1/DSCN2082.JPG
http://www.holoski.com/gallery/d/1895-1/DSCN2083.JPG

Zero_Enigma 08-10-07 09:55 PM

Derath,

Thanks mate. Can I see how that looks when it's mounted on the seat and on your bike?

Sorry for the X-post but I'm looking for a seat bag and also have future plans for a Dinotte tailight. Can anyone here help out? http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=331180

Zero_Enigma 08-14-07 08:39 PM


My advice is to point the light right at the drivers.
Yup that's what I do with my PB Superflash till I have the coin for the Dinotte. If I strike it rich I'm getting a couple rear Dinottes and aiming it back and mid-head level (meaning SUV/Car level) so it hits both of them square in the face to back off...

Cyclist0383 08-14-07 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by Zero_Enigma (Post 5069711)
Yup that's what I do with my PB Superflash till I have the coin for the Dinotte. If I strike it rich I'm getting a couple rear Dinottes and aiming it back and mid-head level (meaning SUV/Car level) so it hits both of them square in the face to back off...

Worst idea ever. Why would you want to intentionally blind drivers? It's not your private road; if you expect cars to share the road with you you need to share the road with them also.

You'll get yourself run over pulling a stupid stunt like that.

gear 08-15-07 03:46 AM


Originally Posted by Ziemas (Post 5070277)
Worst idea ever. Why would you want to intentionally blind drivers? It's not your private road; if you expect cars to share the road with you you need to share the road with them also.

You'll get yourself run over pulling a stupid stunt like that.

Yeah, it does sound like a terrible idea.....except it works. I point my Dinotte right at the drivers face and guess what, they avoid me like the plague, they go around me with as much space as they can put between us.
The "sharing the road" thing only works if the drivers are into sharing too. Around here they aren't so you have to insist on a safe barrier. This is one way to do that.

Cyclist0383 08-15-07 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by gear (Post 5071828)
Yeah, it does sound like a terrible idea.....except it works. I point my Dinotte right at the drivers face and guess what, they avoid me like the plague, they go around me with as much space as they can put between us.
The "sharing the road" thing only works if the drivers are into sharing too. Around here they aren't so you have to insist on a safe barrier. This is one way to do that.

Sounds totally obnoxious. No one wants to hit a cyclist. The point of a light is for a cyclist to be seen by drivers; a light shouldn't be used as a weapon.

Before you someone say "but a driver forced me off the road!", what do you think a cretin like that would do if you are blinding them with your taillight?

Bushman 08-15-07 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by Ziemas (Post 5071859)
Sounds totally obnoxious. No one wants to hit a cyclist. The point of a light is for a cyclist to be seen by drivers; a light shouldn't be used as a weapon.

Before you someone say "but a driver forced me off the road!", what do you think a cretin like that would do if you are blinding them with your taillight?


you never been blinded by the Euro headlights have you?

kleng 08-15-07 06:09 AM

Here is the new official mount for the Dinotte tail light, this picture came from a thread in the road bike bike forum.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...nottemount.jpg

gear 08-15-07 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by kleng (Post 5072081)
Here is the new official mount for the Dinotte tail light, this came from a thread in road bike bike forum.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...nottemount.jpg

Nice!

gear 08-15-07 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by Ziemas (Post 5071859)

Before you someone say "but a driver forced me off the road!", what do you think a cretin like that would do if you are blinding them with your taillight?

Your guessing at what they would do, I'm telling you what they actually do...They pass me leaving lots of space between us.

Cyclist0383 08-15-07 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by Bushman (Post 5072028)
you never been blinded by the Euro headlights have you?

Not intentionally. When people see a lighted cycle or another car they generally dim their lights. Most people know it's not okay to blind others on the road.

Do you drive? If so, would you intentionally blind another driver with your headlights? Why?

Cyclist0383 08-15-07 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by gear (Post 5072220)
Your guessing at what they would do, I'm telling you what they actually do...They pass me leaving lots of space between us.

My point is, if someone is going to be a jerk, they are going to be a jerk regardless of which light you have. Do you also drive a car or do you think that cars are your opponent?

Cyclist0383 08-15-07 09:11 AM

One question; what do drivers do in a traffic jam, or when there is no room to go around you do to heavy oncoming traffic, sit and be blinded with your light in their face?

gear 08-15-07 04:20 PM

I've never heard of a light sold for a bicycle that is brighter than two automobile headlights. Maybe you should be worried about two cars passing in opposing directions. If I follow your logic, they will probably freak out and smash into each other.

On every ride I take some driver will gamble with my safety rather than slow just a bit to be able to pass me safely. Do I think that cars are my opponent? No, not the cars, but some of the owners are.

Cyclist0383 08-15-07 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by gear (Post 5076821)
I've never heard of a light sold for a bicycle that is brighter than two automobile headlights. Maybe you should be worried about two cars passing in opposing directions. If I follow your logic, they will probably freak out and smash into each other.

On every ride I take some driver will gamble with my safety rather than slow just a bit to be able to pass me safely. Do I think that cars are my opponent? No, not the cars, but some of the owners are.

Cars headlights are not pointed directly in the face of other drivers. They are angled at the ground. You don't drive, do you?

Here's the quote that started this:


Originally Posted by Zero_Enigma (Post 5069711)
Yup that's what I do with my PB Superflash till I have the coin for the Dinotte. If I strike it rich I'm getting a couple rear Dinottes and aiming it back and mid-head level (meaning SUV/Car level) so it hits both of them square in the face to back off...

Sounds like he wants to blind people. Nice. Share the road works both ways. Somehow I'm able to commute year round in both heavy urban traffic and lighter traffic at highway speeds in a major urban area with horrible infrastructure without the need to blind car drivers. Why do you feel the need to? If you don't feel secure cycling without the need to shine a very bright light in the eyes of all who come near you, maybe cycling is just to much for your nervous system. There is safety and there is paranoia......

Safety is very important, and I won't ride without several lights, front and rear, and reflective gear, but there is no need to be a jerk and intentionally blind people by pointing a very bright light in there eyes. Like it or not, cars have a right to be on the road too.

You get what you give, and it seems to me you want to give confrontation to every car which drives behind you. Good luck with that.......

gear 08-16-07 03:38 AM

Thanks.

Bent_Mike 08-16-07 10:32 PM

Terracycle
 
Take a look at terracycle.com. They have great mounting systems made for The Dinotte lights

Bushman 08-16-07 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by Ziemas (Post 5073118)
Not intentionally. When people see a lighted cycle or another car they generally dim their lights. Most people know it's not okay to blind others on the road.

Do you drive? If so, would you intentionally blind another driver with your headlights? Why?

Do I drive? hahaha. Yes i drive. A 5 ton double axle rolloff bin truck, a 5 ton flatdeck, a small truck, and any other vehicle i happen to drive. I average about 100,000km a year, both work and pleasure, have a maximum RoadStar drivers discount on the insurance and on occasion teach wet weather and evasive driving on a closed tarmac.

Yes i dip the lights on the vehicles. However when it comes to cycling no bloody way. The way its set up now drivers move one lane over to pass then merge back in about 5o feet after they pass. Works for me.

Cyclist0383 08-17-07 02:16 AM


Originally Posted by Bushman (Post 5087753)
Do I drive? hahaha. Yes i drive. A 5 ton double axle rolloff bin truck, a 5 ton flatdeck, a small truck, and any other vehicle i happen to drive. I average about 100,000km a year, both work and pleasure, have a maximum RoadStar drivers discount on the insurance and on occasion teach wet weather and evasive driving on a closed tarmac.

Yes i dip the lights on the vehicles. However when it comes to cycling no bloody way. The way its set up now drivers move one lane over to pass then merge back in about 5o feet after they pass. Works for me.

Do you cycle in a city or only on country roads? In the city there isn't room to move over one lane.

gear 08-17-07 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by Ziemas (Post 5088201)
Do you cycle in a city or only on country roads? In the city there isn't room to move over one lane.

Let me ask you a question. Do drivers buzz you? Do they go by you within three inches of hitting you at 40MPH? I'm not talking about the occasional jerk I'm talking about the majority of drivers who pass you in the dark. Do they buzz you?


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