recommend me a lighting setup!
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recommend me a lighting setup!
i got that itch to buy something bike-related for the spring weather a few weeks away. someone recommend me a lighting setup.
Riding: mostly urban areas, id like to ride at night just to my gym (10 miles), and maybe a few extra miles if im feeling good/weather is nice / lighting holds up... i would also occasionally hit my climbing route, an 8 mile windy road in a state forest (no lighting at all). i'd probably only do this around dusk, so there would be a little light to use.
Budget: looking to spend $60-80 for the entire setup, light, mount (no idea which to choose for my fuji newest 3.0), batteries, and charger..also, no clue whats good/bad
i think those P7 flashlights are nice, no idea how to differenciate the models, whats good or bad? i'd only be looking for a runtime on high for 60-90 minutes max
also looking to buy soon, like this weekend...and if theres any nighttime pics of what your recommending me would help tremendously!
Riding: mostly urban areas, id like to ride at night just to my gym (10 miles), and maybe a few extra miles if im feeling good/weather is nice / lighting holds up... i would also occasionally hit my climbing route, an 8 mile windy road in a state forest (no lighting at all). i'd probably only do this around dusk, so there would be a little light to use.
Budget: looking to spend $60-80 for the entire setup, light, mount (no idea which to choose for my fuji newest 3.0), batteries, and charger..also, no clue whats good/bad
i think those P7 flashlights are nice, no idea how to differenciate the models, whats good or bad? i'd only be looking for a runtime on high for 60-90 minutes max
also looking to buy soon, like this weekend...and if theres any nighttime pics of what your recommending me would help tremendously!
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If you stay with night riding you will end up spending more for Good Lights.
https://www.bikeforums.net/electronics-lighting-gadgets/509519-pbsf-w-dinotte-test-part-two.html
https://www.bikeforums.net/electronics-lighting-gadgets/509519-pbsf-w-dinotte-test-part-two.html
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I am mostly a DIY'er myself for front lighting. Rear lighting I use commerial products. I have 3 front lights I would consider using for riding along with my DIY setup which happens to be ~900lm IIRC.
I have the following front light commerical products
- NiteHawk 1W bike dedicated light (helmet + bar mount included, 4xAA, solid bar mount)
- Maglite 2xAA 3W LED
- Noma Cree XRE 140lumen 3xAAA
I only use the Nitehawk mounted on the bar while riding in combination with my DIY bar and helmet mounted lighting. The Nitehawk is a nice tight beam with some side spill. I think it is a 5 degree spot with a 10 degree side spill with no donut rings in the light. I got that light about $69 CDN I think. It's OLD tech now but a good weatherproofed backup unit you should be able to get cheap.
My Maglite I've not used for riding yet but it is brighter then my Nitehawk I think. My most recent light the Noma 140lm ( can be found on www.canadiantire.ca , if it asks for a postal code enter (random number) M3B 3B6 , then search NOMA LED) easily dwarfs my 3W Maglite and Nitehawk. The Maglite costed I think $19 CDN while the Noma is $30 CDN. The weight of the Noma vs Maglite is about the same. The Noma is all nylon glass material and very light. You could fashion a mount for the bike or get one of those TwoFish mounts.
Given the current dollar exchange rate the Noma isn't a bad off the shelf solution in your budget. LEt I checked it was 78cents USD to $1.00 CDN. So take $30 divide 1.22 = USD. I don't know the runtime on the Noma but 140lm is what I would use for riding at night if on a budget. Brighter is better. BTW the Noma has no dim mode. Same on the Maglite. 140lm should allow you ~17-18kph speed ok at night. The NightHawk has two modes. Hi/low.
YOu should also specify how fast you ride. I tend to ride ~22-30kph speeds on the flats and reach 55kph on the downhills. Granted I have high powered lighting when I'm on the downhills or pitch black trails so I ca ride fast.
I have the following front light commerical products
- NiteHawk 1W bike dedicated light (helmet + bar mount included, 4xAA, solid bar mount)
- Maglite 2xAA 3W LED
- Noma Cree XRE 140lumen 3xAAA
I only use the Nitehawk mounted on the bar while riding in combination with my DIY bar and helmet mounted lighting. The Nitehawk is a nice tight beam with some side spill. I think it is a 5 degree spot with a 10 degree side spill with no donut rings in the light. I got that light about $69 CDN I think. It's OLD tech now but a good weatherproofed backup unit you should be able to get cheap.
My Maglite I've not used for riding yet but it is brighter then my Nitehawk I think. My most recent light the Noma 140lm ( can be found on www.canadiantire.ca , if it asks for a postal code enter (random number) M3B 3B6 , then search NOMA LED) easily dwarfs my 3W Maglite and Nitehawk. The Maglite costed I think $19 CDN while the Noma is $30 CDN. The weight of the Noma vs Maglite is about the same. The Noma is all nylon glass material and very light. You could fashion a mount for the bike or get one of those TwoFish mounts.
Given the current dollar exchange rate the Noma isn't a bad off the shelf solution in your budget. LEt I checked it was 78cents USD to $1.00 CDN. So take $30 divide 1.22 = USD. I don't know the runtime on the Noma but 140lm is what I would use for riding at night if on a budget. Brighter is better. BTW the Noma has no dim mode. Same on the Maglite. 140lm should allow you ~17-18kph speed ok at night. The NightHawk has two modes. Hi/low.
YOu should also specify how fast you ride. I tend to ride ~22-30kph speeds on the flats and reach 55kph on the downhills. Granted I have high powered lighting when I'm on the downhills or pitch black trails so I ca ride fast.
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i know that bike-specific lights are more money, so what would you recommend to me if i wanna go with a small flashlight with big power? i see these dealxtreme links posted left and right here....i want one!
and i have a 3 led red tail light on my bike already...i may invest in another after seeing some night riding posts
and i have a 3 led red tail light on my bike already...i may invest in another after seeing some night riding posts
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i know that bike-specific lights are more money, so what would you recommend to me if i wanna go with a small flashlight with big power? i see these dealxtreme links posted left and right here....i want one!
and i have a 3 led red tail light on my bike already...i may invest in another after seeing some night riding posts
and i have a 3 led red tail light on my bike already...i may invest in another after seeing some night riding posts
I would recommend you read the P7 threads and you will be able to begin refining your needs.
As I searched for the Vetta link, I see the price is now $24.49. An unbelievable price. Here: https://www.vetta.com/product_show.asp?ptype=whole&id=60
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Hi,
Torches with lots of modes can be very, very annoying and you'll soon get fed up with having to press a button 5 or 8 times to get to the mode that you want.
I'd greatly recommend going with the fewest number of modes you can get away with.
Do you want it to flash ?
Torches with lots of modes can be very, very annoying and you'll soon get fed up with having to press a button 5 or 8 times to get to the mode that you want.
I'd greatly recommend going with the fewest number of modes you can get away with.
Do you want it to flash ?
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Hi,
Torches with lots of modes can be very, very annoying and you'll soon get fed up with having to press a button 5 or 8 times to get to the mode that you want.
I'd greatly recommend going with the fewest number of modes you can get away with.
Do you want it to flash ?
Torches with lots of modes can be very, very annoying and you'll soon get fed up with having to press a button 5 or 8 times to get to the mode that you want.
I'd greatly recommend going with the fewest number of modes you can get away with.
Do you want it to flash ?
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Quite a few multi-mode P7 owners regret buying torches with so many modes.

The OP asked for recommendations and my recommendation will be based on how many modes he wants - is that ok with you ?
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Ok...in your position I would buy this one:

18650 Aurora 2 Mode $48
These:

18650 Batteries $10
And this:

18650 Charger $12
Alternatively there is a 2 x 18650 version (much longer runtime - see my signature), and some other Aurora 2 mode 1 x 18650 torches with smaller lenses/reflectors:

@ $48

@ $44

@ $35
If you went for the slimline $35 torch you'll still be under $60 with batteries and charger.

18650 Aurora 2 Mode $48
These:

18650 Batteries $10
And this:
18650 Charger $12
Alternatively there is a 2 x 18650 version (much longer runtime - see my signature), and some other Aurora 2 mode 1 x 18650 torches with smaller lenses/reflectors:

@ $48

@ $44

@ $35
If you went for the slimline $35 torch you'll still be under $60 with batteries and charger.
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Save up some more and get a dynohub and good LED front & rear lights. You'll never have to think about batteries again. It sucks when you've only gotten two blocks from home and the light drops to low-power mode because you forgot to recharge its batteries last night.
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Save up some more and get a dynohub and good LED front & rear lights. You'll never have to think about batteries again. It sucks when you've only gotten two blocks from home and the light drops to low-power mode because you forgot to recharge its batteries last night.
(I hope)
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(not sure what you mean)
I'll put it this way -- I use lights day and night, most often simply to be seen. I already have Dinotte setups front and rear (plus the amber version that's only good for daytime), and I've used them for maybe a year and a half.
I got a bike with a dynohub last Thanksgiving mainly to have something to run around the neighborhood and downtown. It's a bit heavy (the whole bike, not the hub) and more upright (a drag, literally, on windy days) than the CAAD8 that I was riding all the time, but I'll be darned if that dynohub isn't the reason that it's the bike I reach for when it's time to go.
With the Lumotec LED lighting I added to it, it's just what I want. To be honest, I'm now tempted to get a dyno built into a wheel for the CAAD8.
I'll put it this way -- I use lights day and night, most often simply to be seen. I already have Dinotte setups front and rear (plus the amber version that's only good for daytime), and I've used them for maybe a year and a half.
I got a bike with a dynohub last Thanksgiving mainly to have something to run around the neighborhood and downtown. It's a bit heavy (the whole bike, not the hub) and more upright (a drag, literally, on windy days) than the CAAD8 that I was riding all the time, but I'll be darned if that dynohub isn't the reason that it's the bike I reach for when it's time to go.
With the Lumotec LED lighting I added to it, it's just what I want. To be honest, I'm now tempted to get a dyno built into a wheel for the CAAD8.
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(not sure what you mean)
I'll put it this way -- I use lights day and night, most often simply to be seen. I already have Dinotte setups front and rear (plus the amber version that's only good for daytime), and I've used them for maybe a year and a half.
I got a bike with a dynohub last Thanksgiving mainly to have something to run around the neighborhood and downtown. It's a bit heavy (the whole bike, not the hub) and more upright (a drag, literally, on windy days) than the CAAD8 that I was riding all the time, but I'll be darned if that dynohub isn't the reason that it's the bike I reach for when it's time to go.
With the Lumotec LED lighting I added to it, it's just what I want. To be honest, I'm now tempted to get a dyno built into a wheel for the CAAD8.
I'll put it this way -- I use lights day and night, most often simply to be seen. I already have Dinotte setups front and rear (plus the amber version that's only good for daytime), and I've used them for maybe a year and a half.
I got a bike with a dynohub last Thanksgiving mainly to have something to run around the neighborhood and downtown. It's a bit heavy (the whole bike, not the hub) and more upright (a drag, literally, on windy days) than the CAAD8 that I was riding all the time, but I'll be darned if that dynohub isn't the reason that it's the bike I reach for when it's time to go.
With the Lumotec LED lighting I added to it, it's just what I want. To be honest, I'm now tempted to get a dyno built into a wheel for the CAAD8.
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Can anyone tell me what kind of mount/s you use for flashlights?
I checked out a Coleman Cree XLamp 2CRC2, it's about 3"s long, runs for 2 hrs., 115 lumens, distance 64 meters and costs $25.00. Two of these would kick pretty good. They're machined nicely and you can get them at Wal Mart.
I checked out a Coleman Cree XLamp 2CRC2, it's about 3"s long, runs for 2 hrs., 115 lumens, distance 64 meters and costs $25.00. Two of these would kick pretty good. They're machined nicely and you can get them at Wal Mart.
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Can anyone tell me what kind of mount/s you use for flashlights?
I checked out a Coleman Cree XLamp 2CRC2, it's about 3"s long, runs for 2 hrs., 115 lumens, distance 64 meters and costs $25.00. Two of these would kick pretty good. They're machined nicely and you can get them at Wal Mart.
I checked out a Coleman Cree XLamp 2CRC2, it's about 3"s long, runs for 2 hrs., 115 lumens, distance 64 meters and costs $25.00. Two of these would kick pretty good. They're machined nicely and you can get them at Wal Mart.
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Save up some more and get a dynohub and good LED front & rear lights. You'll never have to think about batteries again. It sucks when you've only gotten two blocks from home and the light drops to low-power mode because you forgot to recharge its batteries last night.
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Can anyone tell me what kind of mount/s you use for flashlights?
I checked out a Coleman Cree XLamp 2CRC2, it's about 3"s long, runs for 2 hrs., 115 lumens, distance 64 meters and costs $25.00. Two of these would kick pretty good. They're machined nicely and you can get them at Wal Mart.
I checked out a Coleman Cree XLamp 2CRC2, it's about 3"s long, runs for 2 hrs., 115 lumens, distance 64 meters and costs $25.00. Two of these would kick pretty good. They're machined nicely and you can get them at Wal Mart.
I've tried most of them
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Fair enough and some people on here may well agree with you - but there are plenty that won't.
Quite a few multi-mode P7 owners regret buying torches with so many modes.
The OP asked for recommendations and my recommendation will be based on how many modes he wants - is that ok with you ?

Quite a few multi-mode P7 owners regret buying torches with so many modes.

The OP asked for recommendations and my recommendation will be based on how many modes he wants - is that ok with you ?


But seriously, I like being able to sometimes use strobe and sometimes use turbo. Then on occasion when I want my batteries to last a bit longer, I'll run high instead of turbo.
edit: see - it is all about ME.
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Some of them are to be able to see where I am going

Not everyone rides in the same environment or has the same requirements

I don't do any busy city centres in the dark, my solution to be easily visible is a large number of blinkies spread out over the bike.
If I relied on a single rear light it's possible that it could be obscured by posts etc when there is a bend in the road or even by a driver's A pillar.
I'm happy to have a very bright constant rear light, but not as my only light and I wouldn't want it flashing.

My front lights are predominantly to see with - being seen is something of a freebie - so consequently none of my front lights flash. However, I make sure I have plenty of lumens from more than one source, so being seen is never an issue.
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Bikes: Some bikes. Hell, they're all the same, ain't they?
Now, it's just grab the bike and go. If I had gone with this setup to begin with, I wouldn't have spent so much money on all the other lights, batteries, and chargers I've bought.
I'd still have at least one Dinotte set, though.





